Warrior flaunting thread!

[Stereo]

In fact, I can tell that the DrK probably washed a bit over 150 times for the entire time.

The Hero washed about 140x so it's not too far different.

[street]

Did you HP wash?

Yea I Hp washed, the ap resets sale was a deal i couldn't pass up on. My Goal is 20k hp clean then i will stop washing.

hefferheffer nl has 17khp base clean at 17x i think that can go down in the extreme hp washing category.

[alwzn4vr]

Yea I Hp washed, the ap resets sale was a deal i couldn't pass up on. My Goal is 20k hp clean then i will stop washing.

hefferheffer nl has 17khp base clean at 17x i think that can go down in the extreme hp washing category.

http://www.sleepywood.net/forum/show....php?t=1579902

more HP and 30 levels or so lower.

[MadeXje]

That's actually a lot, but not to the extreme (compared to the DrK, the hero's HP is almost to the min. point for max HP with HB at 14x, which is not a normal case for his level. xD). In fact, I can tell that the DrK probably washed a bit over 150 times for the entire time.

Heck I dont even know how many times I HP washed besides that it was way TOO MUCH and definitely was before the AP reset sales - stopped washing a number of levels ago too.

[WillDaSnail]

Heck I dont even know how many times I HP washed besides that it was way TOO MUCH and definitely was before the AP reset sales - stopped washing a number of levels ago too.

Nah, there's nothing about "way too much."

In case something happens like for example, Dispel, at least that unbuffed HP might help you somewhat. Can't say that extra preparation could harm you. xD

[ImagineAll]

http://www.sleepywood.net/forum/show....php?t=1579902

more HP and 30 levels or so lower.

The difference is that he didn't have to substitute HP for gear. He wasn't going to wash anymore than necessary when the only purpose for HP washing that much was to be able to have one ranged attacker capable of fully tanking PB, and still contribute decent DPS in the run. I think outside of using the HP for PB/Anego(?), that much washing for a ranged character is just stupid.

Either way it's still impressive, and slightly saddening that he has more HP than my DrK does, despite all of the washing that I've done

[exGenre]

So I scrolled this today:

[Firebirdies]

Nothing much, big improvement to me anyways.

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[Kubi]

My dawn warrior mobbing skeles with soul driver; good exp, but burns a bit of pots using this method to train. Soul driver is really a miniature version of genesis for a dawn warrior.

I'm borrowing most of the dex and attack gear from my marksman. So it's still isn't bad with all the attack boosts/buffs. The night raven's wing is only 106 att and 8 str, nothing big.

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[danparkk]

So I scrolled this today:

[Dual]

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Equips

I scrolled everything myself.

Do I suck?

[WillDaSnail]

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Equips

I scrolled everything myself.

Do I suck?

To be honest, that's a very nice set of equips there. xD

[Stereo]

Can't take screenshots right now :( but since my DK recently got a big attack boost I'm gonna flaunt it in text form.

Name: Cult
Job: WARRIOR (Dragon Knight)
Level: 96
STR: 511 (461+50)
DEX: 86 (35+51)
Attack: 1206-3486 1315-3803
Accuracy: 152

Max Fury: 9505 with Warrior Elixir.


I'm still using the 104 atk Maple Snowboard I bought a few years ago, sadly I have been through the FM multiple times since I got to level 95 and not seen a good Red Surfboard once, or even a reasonably priced clean one. So right now I have 2 goals: Hit level 100, and buy a new weapon. I have this funny feeling that some rich wanna-be-Aran is buying all the Polearms...


Also, wtp should I spend my SP on? I have 12 saved right now cause after Fury and Roar, everything seems pointless... it's not like I need ER at Himes/Typhons.

[WillDaSnail]

All I have to say is....

Max ER. You'll need it anytime, especially at bosses. (Even if you don't boss, it's still a great passive skill to have)

Don't forget Dragon Blood. You can save yourself a bit of $ by not buying war elixirs. However, you can keep a few in your inventory in case you need to use it for a boss that fk's the skill over repeatedly (like Pap's dispel).

[IllegallySane]

All I have to say is....

Max ER. You'll need it anytime, especially at bosses. (Even if you don't boss, it's still a great passive skill to have)

Don't forget Dragon Blood. You can save yourself a bit of $ by not buying war elixirs. However, you can keep a few in your inventory in case you need to use it for a boss that fk's the skill over repeatedly (like Pap's dispel).

Dragon's Blood can be skipped entirely just BECAUSE Dragon's Blood can be dispelled, but a Warrior Elixir can't. Besides, with most warrior's having a huge inventory, having 100 Warrior Elixirs should be trivial, and even 200 isn't a problem.

*Definitely get ER Stereo. It's a passive that will keep on giving once you enter the land of the LAZ0RS monsters (ie monsters with unavoidable magic attacks).

[WillDaSnail]

Dragon's Blood can be skipped entirely just BECAUSE Dragon's Blood can be dispelled, but a Warrior Elixir can't. Besides, with most warrior's having a huge inventory, having 100 Warrior Elixirs should be trivial, and even 200 isn't a problem.

I'm just gonna play it nice and ask you to reread what I put in my post you quoted.

Don't forget Dragon Blood. You can save yourself a bit of $ by not buying war elixirs. However, you can keep a few [war elixirs] in your inventory in case you need to use it for a boss that fk's the skill [Dragon Blood] over repeatedly (like Pap's dispel).

I didn't ignore that fact, ya know? What I'm trying to say is that DB's still great as a training skill....

And to provide further counterarguement.....

Ive seen Heroes still using Rage when they're training. (Some with inventory spaces bigger than Texas opt for Ciders, if they wish). That still shows how that skill (and any atk buff skill, like Dragon Blood) still useful, especially when it can save you $ by giving you the ability to have it anytime instead of pressing a key that'll cost you 5K mesos (and you could run out of war elixirs anytime - especially a headache if you're in a big training session and forgot to restock your war elixirs). So in essence, this can also apply to Dragon Blood.

Sure you can argue back that war elixirs lasts longer + undispellable. I'll ask you this: If you were out nailing monsters, what type of monsters you would spend most of the time killing? There's two categories, and I'll leave it at that.

[IllegallySane]

I'm just gonna play it nice and ask you to reread what I put in my post you quoted.



I didn't ignore that fact, ya know?

I read what you wrote. I'm simply stating my reasoning for why someone can just skip putting SP into Dragon's Blood. This is what ran through my mind: An extra 37.5k mesos spent per hour compared to 20 skill points? Mesos can always be replacable; skill points can't. Yes I actually calculated mesos/hour for a buff potion. ./nerdiness

*I'm unfortunately the kind of guy who absolutely MUST min/max skill point usage. It's probably as powergaming as I get. Taking the game seriously is entirely different of course.

Is Dragon's Blood useful? Yes.
Is it useless because of Warrior Elixirs? No.
Is the skill replaceable by Warrior Elixirs? Yes.

[WillDaSnail]

I'm just gonna put my final arguement out there. Illegal, if you wanna take it further, I'd like to debate it with you via vistor messaging or PM. I'd rather not clog up this thread with our debates, shall we?

Final arguements

You could probably argue that those Dragon Blood's 20 points could be spent on....well Sacrifice (useless, but albiet useful in some ways) or PA Crusher. But seriously, those skills are not as useful as Dragon Blood.

Dragon Blood is basically the Dragon Knight/Dark Knight's form of the Crusader/Hero's Rage skill. In fact, it was probably the best attack buff for any 3rd job class in MS (and any jobs out in MS) at that time, until surpassed by 4th job atk buff skills (like Enrage and Concentration) and change of Rage's effects from +10 atk to +12 atk (when maxed).

Now look: Why sacrifice a buff that's given to you, why sacrifice a buff that's actually gives you good effects at a tiny cost, why sacrifice a buff that has no limitations (in terms of not having it run out at any time), unlike War Elixirs, which has to be restocked from time to time?

I can see your arguement about how tiny the cost of using War Elixirs in terms of every hour.

BUT............

For people that are short on $, that skill can pretty much help them out. I know that Stereo's not one of those, but just to point it out, it can save some good $ over a period of time. I can point out from personal experince that I'm one of those that was short on cash (last time I checked before I quit), and if I ever came back, I would try to level as fast as I can so I can get that skill and not have to use Warrior Elixirs regularly, (maybe keep a few War Elixirs handy for certain bosses) therefore saving myself a bit of $.

In conclusion.....

Cost of using Dragon Blood and occasionally using War Elixirs in bosses (when necessary) is much cheaper than using war elixirs every single freaking time, during training and bossing.

[TomasLuther]

Finally achieved one of my goals, thanks to the new att belts.



Broke 10k clean range.

CK lvl = 38

[WillDaSnail]

Hammer'd gloves last night......also posting my old range and new range for comparison's sake.




(Old range)Level 86 Dragon Knight, BuffDaSnail, 1073 ~ 3074

(New Range) Level 86 Dragon Knight, BuffDaSnail, 1097 ~ 3200