But we're having fun deciding when Maple "died", although on the other hand saying Maple died the moment it came out is hilarious to think of. The ultimate hipster move.Originally Posted by Moonlapse
KMST 1.2.409 - Thief/Pirate Revamp
But we're having fun deciding when Maple "died", although on the other hand saying Maple died the moment it came out is hilarious to think of. The ultimate hipster move.
It was never alive as it is just a game not a living being it can never die it can be shut down though..Which it isn't it continues to be apparently one of the most popular free to play MMOs to this date... Amazing indeed..
Changes to buccaneers still suck yeah. Mainly with the shadow clone transformation spirit bull, those animations need to go or just change the character into the transformed state not make that crap happen...Supposed to be a brawler who uses their fists not a summoner. Still the game play looks wrecked as well but I said that before..
That laser attack has the range and area Pierce should have.
So they got rid of Transform and Battleship because the Koreans complained about losing their CS clothing while using them?!...
Or Nexon's pocketbook complained.So they got rid of Transform and Battleship because the Koreans complained about losing their CS clothing while using them?!...
The bucc changes don't really bother me anymore. Laser and the new barrage actually look pretty interesting. I will probably enjoy shoop da whooping on my bucc. I also like the new energy charge better, also.
Only thing that really dissapoints me is that bucc DPS didn't really improve.
I don't play anymore, but did they seriously just entirely revamp classes into entirely different crap? Where the hell is the Sair boat? That was like the coolest thing about being a sair, being like a mix of NL and Archers with a psuedo-ulti and a cool tank. And Buccs aren't even played the same way either. I would be royally pissed if I still played, I really have to wonder why not just make new classes if they wanted to change existing ones so much.
Really?
-No more invulnerability frames
-Least survivability in the game now, most likely
-No more auto-KB
-No more self efficiency
-No more unique play style
-No more fun play style
-No more skill variety
-Still no real mobility
-No more real usefulness
On top of all of that, we still have the shittiest of the shittiest DPS in the game. Where's the good in that? The only thing that looks even half decent is the new animation for the new 1v1 skill. We're basically the class that goes in and dies so that everyone can point and laugh at us because we have the shittiest defense in the game, no good avoidability, no dodge-rate skills, we have less HP than a god damn ranged class (Cannon Shooters), and we provide absolutely NOTHING for a party of any kind. We may as well not even be a melee class anymore because we have absolutely no way of surviving as a melee class. Our damage isn't good enough to be a ranged class... Where do you classify us now? Where the hell do we stand?
Really, there's nothing... NOTHING good about this update for Vipers. If they do not change this, there's absolutely no point in even sticking to the class by any means. They ruined it. They chewed it up, regurgitated it, ate it, shat it out, stomped on it, then stuck it in an envelope, gave it to us and smiled.
In two years time, there will be one Frankenstein class with skills from everyone... and Bishops.
i thought the new bucc dps is at least double? 900ms fist of fury 8 hits x 238% does seem to be beat demolition 3120ms 8 hits x 440%
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126933%/min vs 67692%/min
Why don't you wait till it's finalized before raging hard. Then actually try it. It might not be what you think.
Double of crap is still not amazing. Just saying.
Also, our playstyle is pretty much the same as post-BB, except for the fact that we don't have to turn around anymore to double rush. Now it's just rush--> rush 2--> spam DS/laser. Rinse and repeat. It's just we don't get to mix in energy blast anymore cause it's slow and the laser does everything better than anything else. we can't stay 100% invincible anymore and we use significantly more potions than ever before. I remember back when I would use 150 pots in 2 weeks and literally 0 MP potions. This won't happen anymore.
Just by seeing the animations from the video, you can tell that barrage isn't the same, so we lose our job at bosses there. You can tell there aren't that many invincibility frames anymore beyond the actual initial rushes like warriors. Our party skills aren't worth much nowadays considering boss runs usually end within the hour and won't necessarily need time leap. SI can't break the cap and is therefore useless to pretty much every class except marksmen, some warriors, and maybe the corsair and ourselves. There is no "try it yourselves before you judge!" because we actually can't unless we have access to a KMST account or KMS account and even then, by the time we do have access to it, it will be too late for them to change anything and will already have been set in stone.
Hey remember back when.. there was only third job.. and rangers were like.. lol at surviving.. and they couldn't freeze.. and they had pomegranate all for HP.. Yeah.. hi buccaneers.
MS died when Cubes and potential stats came out. There was nothing wrong with MS pre BB/Poten... Apart from lolmages, loladins, and lol buccs. All the game need was decent proper balancing not an entire overhual. I am totally a" go with the flow" type, but ever since BB MS just get crapier and crapier at even aster rates than it was before BB.
There's no need to try it. Have you seen what Vipers were before? Have you seen what Vipers are now?
We were pretty f'ucking good before with the only thing lacking was ANY kind of DPS. Now, we lack ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING, INCLUDING DPS.
i guess we just have different playstyles.
I have no idea why you think barrage is "essential at bosses"
my squad doesn't need barrage at any of the bosses i've gone too. (which is just short of cygnus at the moment)
eg: i am horrible at van leon, my first solo attempt brought him down to 10% before running out of time, each time i died i lost my super transformation. a czak solo is nigh impossible since every seduce that kills you means you are without super transformation.
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so far, barrage as it is , is currently pointless at any boss I've been too, corkscrew blow is far more effective.
at present, for me, the only reason to use barrage is out of super transformation, where barrage+dragonstrike macro does deal more damage than a pure dragonstrike combo (at least the last time i tested it pre bigbang),
yes. timeleap is pretty much unnecessary now since the pb/cht runs i am in doesn't even bother with bishops/ress and are down in 30 mins or less,
the task for vipers at least in my world is strictly damage dealing. thus doubling dps will certainly make (at least where I am concerned) vipers more effective.
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in otherwords, I am very pleased with the changes to vipers, other than the fact i will miss using snatch at pvp. if only they made energy blast have the effect of snatch at pvp. it would be wonderful. (yes, it should be made into a tractor beam)
wow,thats pretty weird when you say doubling of dps means lack of dps?
Buccs are not and never are a DPS class. Gaining DPS means nothing when we've lost more as a class and as a party member than we've gained in damage. Even if we become the hands down strongest class in the game, literally no buccaneer on the face of the planet would want that in exchange for no more auto-KB, de-aggro, and invincibility.
All I know is that Barrage does 100% knockback on monsters, which at some bosses would be extremely useful and adds utility. Not necessarily essential (especially at bosses, that, you know, don't actually move)but it is one of the good points that i do like to point out. I've never been high enough of a level and never well connected enough to go to anything other than zakum or scarlion/targa runs, so I guess I'm limited there, but I'm sure there are others who are much more educated on the subject than I am.
I do like the invincibility that Barrage gives us though as it allows us to avoid things like 1/1 and stun. Now we have none of that, so I guess we get to suffer like everyone else.
Obviously you've never been to a real boss. PB never attacks. Empress is forced into KB and therefore doesn't attack as much. Extremely valuable.
Neither did mine. Until i started using it. Now they love it.
Von leon is horrible.
Czak is pretty worthless once you have the only reward he gives.
Sounds like you need to broaden your horizons. Take a second look at the class. You might find it a lot more interesting.
I use it for resetting dice rolls or if i need xform. Pretty handy.
Wow. Sounds like a s'hitty world when buccs are used for damage. I guess every other class around you is just naked.
In a world when i'm a DPS class, i'm sure i would be content with that surface change. Too bad we do things a little differently, where the surface changes made here completely overwrite the deep concepts that made buccs able to survive for this long with no revamp. The same concepts that would have made the class post-revamp, had they actually preserved them.
Even after this revamp, we have lower DPS than a Bishop.
Does that say anything to you?
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