Bold is a big YES.Originally Posted by KajitiSouls
And yeah, I noticed that HH only gets good after lvl 20, so having a few points in it doesn't really do you much good. But I've always managed to find a crazy way to pull things off. (has max HP recovery and endure, as well as lvl 13 SB)
I also have max HP recovery and non-max SB lol. I actually had FORGOTTEN that I hadn't maxed it (I originally left it unmaxed because of extra MP cost, then by the time I was 30 had forgotten to finish it. When I hit late 2nd job I noticed and corrected this with some spare points, but it still is only level 15 or so.Bold is a big YES.
And yeah, I noticed that HH only gets good after lvl 20, so having a few points in it doesn't really do you much good. But I've always managed to find a crazy way to pull things off. (has max HP recovery and endure, as well as lvl 13 SB)
I got it to 13 for 101%, and then just left it. It came down to I was maxing HP recovery and then realized i was running out of points, so I ended up choosing power strike over sb.
For you the SB is different though, since you actually get mobbing skills, unlike this Paladin who had lvl 13 SB as my ONLY mob move up until lvl 124. I didn't add any more points into it cause I went, "I'm gonna get ACB eventually." And I did.
>_>
I have 15 blast and have been working on HH at 142.
Math tells me if I maxed blast my max with it would go up 25k or so without apples, 35k or so with apples. (giving me about 83k/120k max)
But none of that really matters for training. I 2-hit skeles often enough with ACB, and I'm usually at OB4 anyway. So I'm working on HH instead of blast right now.
Ok, I don't know what to upgrade next. I have several options I'm considering.
I just upgraded my SCG, and don't have many mesos left. So my question is: when i do begin to accumulate some mesos over the next few months, what should i upgrade next?
(6 dex base)
16/23/15/15 34acc 2 slot Zhelm
14dex Rose Earrings (hammered)
1 dex/4acc White Raccoon Mask (unhammered, my friend's)
8dex/4att PAC (unhammered)
23 str/5dex Black Neos Top (unhammered)
6str/13dex/8acc Black Neos Pants (unhammered)
5/6/6/5 11att/13acc MON
19str/122att Duck Tube {1-H BW Fast(5), Hammered}
8str/16att Maple Shield (unhammered)
19att SCG (hammered)
5/5/5/5 Black Belt
5dex/2att Facestompers (unhammered)
My ideas are:
* Buy a 3-5 dex face accessory
* Re-maker a new pair of black neos pants and scroll again
* Upgrade my PAC (more attack)
* Finish my Zhelm (only using 100% Helm Dex scrolls)
* Level up my koc (currently lvl 48)
*Note*: I have another character which i play (BM), so consider the upgrades in addition with him too. My thoughts were to get a face accessory or upgrade my PAC, since it'd benefit both characters.
Your thoughts?
Last edited by jwolfrush1; 2009-10-04 at 04:27 PM.
You could get a 6-7 att cape pretty cheaply, and it would benefit both characters.
Speaking of which I need a new upgrade plan since I just finished duplicating my glove/cape/shoes for my wifes bowmaster.
Right now:
120 attack sky ski
16 att bwg
8att 4 dex cape
2att 3 dex stompers
16 str 2 str 3 accuracy top unhammed
16 dex 8 acc bottoms unhammed
Blue belt
12 accuracy unhammed racoon mask
Clean sword earings
MoN
What should I be concentrating on? And I have berzerk maxed.
That depends on what you need.
If you're in dire need of accuracy, do something about those earrings.
If the glove and/or Skis are unhammered, scroll those. Do the Facestompers if you have a lot of money.
They are both hammered. I won't hammer the FS cus I'm unlucky :(. I'm not really in dire need for accuracy but it help in CWKPQ, I have 154 acc atm. I'd invest in speed bottoms but..khaini being so small it'll be a bithc.That depends on what you need.
If you're in dire need of accuracy, do something about those earrings.
If the glove and/or Skis are unhammered, scroll those. Do the Facestompers if you have a lot of money.
Oh...you're in Khaini.... Well, that certainly makes things more difficult.
Considering that I'd say you're pretty damn well equipped.
I want to break 6k max range rofl T_T. I'm at 5973. And me and my wife have talked to you on orbis boat a couple of times, nabOh...you're in Khaini.... Well, that certainly makes things more difficult.
Considering that I'd say you're pretty damn well equipped.
Alright, That's what ill probably upgrade next, considering my cape is sort of an "outlier" in my total equips.
My only worry is:
Once i do upgrade my cape, I will lose some much-needed accuracy (i have 8dex from my current cape). My current accuracy as of 10/5 is 169 (with duck tube). My hope is to get a 7-8att 4-6dex OR str cape. A STR cape would also help my bowmaster as well. I know I'll be able to gain additional acc from my koc and when i get around to re-scrolling some pants.
*Goes off topic*
- My BM uses a HTP to equip my dragon shiner bow. I'd really prefer to use a MON instead. I'd like to sell my top/bottom equips and get a STR overall for him. That way, i should be able to equip a MON and my bow. :zzz:
*On topic*
Any other suggestions, you guys can give me?
More stalkers from Southperry...great.I want to break 6k max range rofl T_T. I'm at 5973. And me and my wife have talked to you on orbis boat a couple of times, nab
Jared, how much STR would you need on the overall to make your Bowman able to use the MoN instead of a HTP?
Other than the job you chose, your Paladin is fine.
Make some Reverse Shoes with an Advanced Power crystal, Advanced Garnet, and either an Advanced DEX or Advanced Dark crystal. This will more than likely net you a 10+ STR shoe (barely less than 2 att), 10 Dex (8 acc), and another 5 acc (13 total). It will also level up and potentially give even more DEX/STR, and you can scroll it for either speed or Acc (I'd go speed if you don't have max passive speed or max with a speed pill).Alright, That's what ill probably upgrade next, considering my cape is sort of an "outlier" in my total equips.
My only worry is:
Once i do upgrade my cape, I will lose some much-needed accuracy (i have 8dex from my current cape). My current accuracy as of 10/5 is 169 (with duck tube). My hope is to get a 7-8att 4-6dex OR str cape. A STR cape would also help my bowmaster as well. I know I'll be able to gain additional acc from my koc and when i get around to re-scrolling some pants.
*Goes off topic*
- My BM uses a HTP to equip my dragon shiner bow. I'd really prefer to use a MON instead. I'd like to sell my top/bottom equips and get a STR overall for him. That way, i should be able to equip a MON and my bow. :zzz:
*On topic*
Any other suggestions, you guys can give me?
This shouldn't set you back more than 250m (100m if you farm the PoT yourself), and is a great acc upgrade without losing much for att if anything.
Sorry for the late response Jared, but here are some options (IMO):
- Finish off the Zhelm (if Helm ACC 60%'s are avaliable. I'd put this at the back burner, aka last priority if you plan to use 60%)
- ATT PaC would be your best bet. Benefits both BM town saver + Pally town saver. I'd do this first ;D
- Finish off your top/bottom with 60%'s (again, that'd be the last thing you wanna do since 60%'s are quite expensive, as you probably know xD)
- Try for a 20 atk MS Shield with 60%'s (might wanna wait till you got a lot of $ for this - 60%'s are high in price)
- FS: 60% Shoe Jump it OR make a nice Reverse warrior shoe and 60% Shoe Jump it.
1. Jw, do you need DEX? o.O If not, you can get yourself a clean Face ACC and scroll it for acc.
2. You can try re-maker your pants. However, I'd try salvaging your pants. If not, you can sell it for the funds needed to remake the pants.
3. Already mentioned
4. Already mentioned; however, if you wanna go that route, that's OK.
5. If you got spare time, that's the best way to get quick att boost for AquaHammer.
SpoilerWell in most cases attack gear will always take precidense over stats for warriors as we don't really need anything other than accuracy anyways. It appears that accuracy is a matter of importance to you to a certain degree, but don't overplay it's worth I'm not really sure about Khaini's PB attempts are, or if you even take part in them, but if that's the reason then there's minor changes in "battle attire" that can easily get you the accuracy you need. Other than that only thing you'd need high accuracy for is CWKpq and that's nothing your current gear and a basket or two each run can't do.
You can always finish your Cygnus, get a new mask, and then perhaps replace your top and bottom set with a str bathrobe or sauna so that you have yet another piece of interchangable gear between those two characters? Granted you'd be sacraficing a few points of str on each side, but it may be worth it to you?
I would suggest replacing the cape and shoes if you're not too worried about re-equipping your BM for the time being, not to mention It'll benefit them both in the long haul anyways. If you don't have the money I suggest replacing them one at a time and finishing off the Cygnus in the mean time.
I'm going to start by saying I really don't know anything about warriors.
My wife is a hybrid spearwoman and she just got ahold of a 104 atk 14 str karstan. At some point, I'll probably get her a couple hammers to open up the last two scroll slots. How long will this reasonably last her?
If I recall correctly she was thinking of maxing PA fury, elemental resistance, spear crusher, dragon roar, and then either PA crusher or spear fury. I don't know which order she's planning on doing them in.
Edit: I think the Acc is 37
Last edited by trumpetdude; 2009-10-13 at 09:10 AM.
Assuming the acc on the Karstan means anything, that could be the last polearm she buys for a long time (14x? 15x? Eventually you'll have spent all the money on other things that it's possible to do). It'd definitely be hard to get a better one, and probably better to just save for a good spear.
That PA can last for a while, ya know? Especially if she needs it for Hime training
However, if she get her basic ACC equips down, tell her to think about upgrading to an Crimson Arcglaive (just for the kicks). That's optional though. xD
Alright, it's been awhile since I've really played MS, and haven't logged on for about 2-3 months now and am really just coming up to speed with most of the new content.
Ever since I got my DrK to bossing levels, 140, I've always considered DPS to be my number one concern. That being said, my obvious choice of weapon were Sky Skis for their additional attack speed (the accuracy was just an added bonus). With the introduction of Maker and Reverse Items, the margin between DPS with a Ski and a Slow spear has significantly closened. Testing has shown that Skis are 10% better (approximately) than slow spears. I have a 120 attack Sky Ski, hammered that I've used for a little over a year now that was scrolled for me by a friend, it has it's material value as well as a sentimental value, so I don't really want to part ways with it unless it's absolutely worth it.
Excluding all other gear and only taking into consideration the attack of the spear, all one needs for a slow spear to be the equivelant of my Ski is a 132+ slow spear or better.
I'm more or less at a place of indecision. I don't know whether to sell my skis (I have some ridiculous outstanding offers on them) and Maker and mass scroll Pinakas (average cost per spear using a Stimulator, Advanced Diamond, and Intermediate Black Crystal is approximately 45mil). If I do this I am hoping to come up with something close to 138+ (I know, that's extreme, but I set high goals).
Should I stick with my Sky Skis, or sell them and fund mass scrolling Pinakas?
Also, using the Crystals and stim stated above, what is the max possible clean attack on a Pinaka that I can obtain?
Last edited by ImagineAll; 2009-10-23 at 08:26 PM.
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