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  1. GLADIGATORS
    IGN: Overburnd
    Server: Khaini
    Level: 210
    Job: Cannoneer
    Guild: Contagious
    usa

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    Old rank, not old potential. It shows you hidden potential because it has to reset it and hidden potential is the way the game does that.

  2. Can you hear it?
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    IGN: Street
    Server: Windia
    Level: 15x
    Job: I/l mage
    Guild: Imperial
    Alliance: Royal
    Washington

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    Ah you got to be kidding me... I just used up a pack of black cubes on my old item.. Should have ask before hand :(

    Thanks

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    After the nerf, I can't say if drop rate works. However, before the nerf it did not. It only applied to coin bags. I could run around with 12x drop rate for 3 days straight and get nothing. Then the next 2 days I ran around with 1x drop rate and got 4 drops per day.

  4. GLADIGATORS
    IGN: Overburnd
    Server: Khaini
    Level: 210
    Job: Cannoneer
    Guild: Contagious
    usa

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    I feel like i get a lot more blades and superiors when i have pend+pig and i'm not sure why it wouldn't apply to the equipments too. They're normal monsters after all they aren't reactors.

  5. Orbital Bee Cannon
    IGN: SaptaZapta
    Server: Kradia
    Level: 275
    Job: Hero
    Guild: Matriarchy
    Alliance: Peaceful

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    It has been speculated that the drops don't come from the boss, but from some hidden mob down at the bottom of the boat (which we can see because some area-damage skills hit it), which is unkillable by itself but dies after the boss dies. If that is the case, personal drop multipliers won't apply to that mob, since you never hit it. (But a 2x drop event would apply)

  6. GLADIGATORS
    IGN: Overburnd
    Server: Khaini
    Level: 210
    Job: Cannoneer
    Guild: Contagious
    usa

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    That is VERY interesting, and unique. I was wondering what the point of that hidden hitbox was for but that totally explains it.

  7. Helium Atom Straight Male
    IGN: Brandonaught
    Server: Scania
    Level: 212
    Job: Paladin
    Guild: Chrono
    Alliance: Chrono
    Farm: Sheep GYM
    California

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    i always thought Gyarados/Livy was just ducking underneath the boat, and they forgot to add the animations

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    God, the Hit boxes for Livy such ass. I can only kill him on my Zero if I dash to the bottom right corner so all my attacks hit, which is annoying to do.

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    It's obvious Livy himself isn't dropping stuff cause his hitbox is centered outside the boat, and unlike the Coral Reefs, he doesn't drop his items outside the boat.

    Whether personal droprate buffs work, I have no idea. What I can say is that since the nerf I've gone to Rien daily (just using Big Spider) and never had an equip.

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    So would that mean that classes that do use area-damage skills which hit the hidden mob as part of their bossing routine would get the personal drop multiplier?
    That might explain why some players seem to be consistantly luckier with SW drops.

  11. Orbital Bee Cannon
    IGN: SaptaZapta
    Server: Kradia
    Level: 275
    Job: Hero
    Guild: Matriarchy
    Alliance: Peaceful

    Default Re: Commerci sweetwater set


    I don't know.
    Another thread said that for your drop buffs to apply (to any monster), you have to deliver the killing blow (the last hit). But since this hidden mob gets killed by the game itself when the boss dies, there is no last hit.

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    pre-Unleashed shadower's Taunt skill increase drop/exp wouldn't apply if Taunt killed the monster. then juxtaposed demon slayer's Demon Cry, multi line skill, so the skill could kill a monster, but the first line damage would apply the bonus.

    i dont know when the current postRED drop mechanics activate. i think im gonna ask nexon staff for official changelogs on back end modifications. who knows, we may get good insight into unknown factors.

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    sweetwater does not have base attack, so one scroll will be waste putting (gollux 90%) attack on the pieces before chaosing. in addition to losing a slot, you lose the transpose extra star. a transposed item will have its star count reduced by 1.

    transposing may be a crapshoot, but i still think its worth the effort. ultimately, the best pieces for transpose, are overlapped with tyrant equips > shoe,cape,weapon, and hat (glove). fafnir top/bot are cheap at the moment, and two piece is stronger than one overall. I still perfer dojo gloves, but if/when nexon releases 15 star, and, if/when i have tyrant cape, glove, shoe, will transpose 15star tyrant into sweetwater.


    [EDIT]: Does scissor'd anvil still give +1 tradecount? there are alleged hot patch claims that are hard to prove without video

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    It won't. The tier and number of lines are kept, but the actual potential is reset.

    EDIT: ninja'd and also I keep forgetting how to use Tapatalk

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    I've had an attendance sundae drop from Livyatan at the side of the boat so they are definitely separate monsters.

  16. Electron Straight Female
    IGN: HumSoftly
    Server: Bera
    Level: 205
    Job: Bowmaster
    Guild: Acrylic
    Alliance: ComicCon
    Farm: Litha
    Wisconsin

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    A bit of a change in topic, but has anyone figured out the best way to farm denaros yet, supposing you have 40+ denaros and have unlocked every region? i need to transpose my hat but two tries a day is so slow :T

  17. Electron Male
    IGN: MClass
    Server: Scania
    Level: 215
    Job: Bowmaster
    Guild: Aquarium
    Alliance: Legacy
    Illinois

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    I would assume Rosa would be best since you can get about 8 runs in at about 5 coins per run?

  18. Electron Straight Female
    IGN: HumSoftly
    Server: Bera
    Level: 205
    Job: Bowmaster
    Guild: Acrylic
    Alliance: ComicCon
    Farm: Litha
    Wisconsin

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    But there's also the matter of how many runs to do at which location, too. Every port in the maple world offers at least one item with a 20% profit margin as opposed to 10%... I get about 8 coins on average for a herb town run, but I only get 7 for both rien and lith... Would it be best to do one herb town trip and fill the rest with rosa?

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    sort of, yes. not including bonuses for "shortening the trip" the *static value of 8 trips to Luna, (12 Energy per trip) (4 Denero profit) (~90 seconds per trip) has the largest return. (+32 per day)

    *Note: Conducting a (cost = 10De) trade will give +1De profit more than conducting TWO (cost = 5De) trades.

    EDIT
    Observed data from (cost = 5De) soaps

    [cost 10] 10x dolce (3ea) + 30De )60sec) 10 min
    [cost 12] 8x luna (4ea) + 32De (90sec) 12 mins
    [cost 15] 6x rosa (4ea) + 24De (2min) 12 mins
    [cost 25] 4x herb (5ea) + 20De (4min) 16 mins
    [cost 30] 3x rein (5ea) + 15De (5min) 15mins
    [cost 40] 2x lith (5ea) + (7mins) 14mins

    i didnt bother trying to mix/match combinations, since hunting boss drops =/= farming De.
    Last edited by kayeyearekay; 2014-01-16 at 05:08 PM. Reason: added trade data

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    I just do Rosa with a single 10 energy sail(forgot the name of the port).

    I transpose 2 times a day with this method, making sure to never go under 10 coins.

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