Feedback Unleashed: Part IV - I am my hair

[Thorr]

Ok, is there something I am not understanding about Avenger or should I really be losing HP at such a constant rate? The first job attack says it costs 1% HP. The recovery is supposed to 100% chance of recovering 5% HP. Shouldn't that mean my attacks are free? I am losing 200 HP per attack at this point.

[Razmos]

Ok, is there something I am not understanding about Avenger or should I really be losing HP at such a constant rate? The first job attack says it costs 1% HP. The recovery is supposed to 100% chance of recovering 5% HP. Shouldn't that mean my attacks are free? I am losing 200 HP per attack at this point.

As exceed rises the amount of health gained from Life Sap decreases, and the more you use an attack the more the HP cost rises. If you are starting to lose HP at too high of a rate, switch to another attack to reset or use Overload Release to fully heal yourself and start again.

It's really important to watch your Exceed stacks, you need to keep resetting it.

[Thorr]

As exceed rises the amount of health gained from Life Sap decreases, and the more you use an attack the more the HP cost rises. If you are starting to lose HP at too high of a rate, switch to another attack to reset or use Overload Release to fully heal yourself and start again.

It's really important to watch your Exceed stacks, you need to keep resetting it.

Gotcha. THanks for the info, good sir.

[Takebacker]

Ok, is there something I am not understanding about Avenger or should I really be losing HP at such a constant rate? The first job attack says it costs 1% HP. The recovery is supposed to 100% chance of recovering 5% HP. Shouldn't that mean my attacks are free? I am losing 200 HP per attack at this point.

No matter your job as long as you release asap your attacks ARE free. If it takes too much because you're too weak or something you can use your -HP Attacks instead of your -%HP attacks. Whereas diabolic recovery should solve all your problems.

Life sap is based on hits you TAKE not hits you DEAL. (pretty sure)

[noeul]

I wanted to hit 200 on my DA to get a snazzy "Archdemon" thingy but I realized that at level 165 a clean 6% hp pendant/ring/belt, a czak and a level 60 desperado is not going to get me where I need to be.

[Jedward]

I wanted to hit 200 on my DA to get a snazzy "Archdemon" thingy but I realized that at 165 clean 6% hp pendant/ring/belt, a czak and a level 60 desperado is not going to get me where I need to be.

Train at Evo World using the warrior armor cores and rare potential to get some decent armor, and craft a level 90 desperado right away so you can delay using a weapon core until after.

[Endgame]

120 in two days.

It's a new record, Endy!

And for those just in it for the Level 2 Link Skill: Get the Overwhelming Power Skill Book, not Desperato Mastery. I started consistently clearing entire waves in Evo World Link 3 once I got it just because of the Attack Speed boost. It lasting longer and through entire attraction periods so you don't have to recast it during the period makes all the difference.

And do NOT get Infernal Exceed. As the icon should give away, it's a Final Attack, and thus, suffers that stupid FA bug.

[Mike]

Downloaded the patch, clicked play, game didn't even load up, tried one more time, nothing happened again, lost interest.

Yup.

[Daakun]

And do NOT get Infernal Exceed. As the icon should give away, it's a Final Attack, and thus, suffers that stupid FA bug.

Hits DA less than the other guys, though; you only do the FA animation if you're idle.
ie, won't interrupt just standing there mashing a skill until you let go, and then only some of the time.

[Arrol]

And do NOT get Infernal Exceed. As the icon should give away, it's a Final Attack, and thus, suffers that stupid FA bug.

You'd think Nexon would fix the FA patch along with releasing a job that has a Final Attack.

[Razmos]

Wow, Demon Avenger's Maple Warrior still gives All Stat %. That is so useless.
You'd think they'd make it give HP% for DA.

Also, I needed a Desperado because I was still using the level 70 one. I got this on my first try in Evolving World.
Thatwilldo.


And I found some Beryl Boots with 6% HP in the free market for less than 10m.
I'm getting exceedingly lucky with this class for some reason.

[CakesXD]

Finished DA today. I did enjoy every new job advancement, for about 5 minutes, and then it just got tedious.

[SoR0XaS]

Ok, is there something I am not understanding about Avenger or should I really be losing HP at such a constant rate? The first job attack says it costs 1% HP. The recovery is supposed to 100% chance of recovering 5% HP. Shouldn't that mean my attacks are free? I am losing 200 HP per attack at this point.

As exceed rises the amount of health gained from Life Sap decreases, and the more you use an attack the more the HP cost rises. If you are starting to lose HP at too high of a rate, switch to another attack to reset or use Overload Release to fully heal yourself and start again.

It's really important to watch your Exceed stacks, you need to keep resetting it.

Also, Release Overload increases your max HP when you use it, so it's recommended to keep Releasing after getting 20 exceed stacks.

[Niernen]

I dont really like some of the higher leveled desperados, they dont look too great with fat middles or ends. I guess i prefer more sleek swords.

Anyone else notice that DA does not lose HP when he uses a exceeded attack and doesnt hit a mob, but it still increases the exceed overload count? If you need to heal or something, just spam a move in a corner to get the count to 20.

[noeul]

I don't know if it was limited to this color of transformation

Spoiler

but it used to make your character skin all grey and stuff after you untransformed. To fix it you had to CC/change maps/go to cash shop. It's been like that since Tempest and they finally fixed it

[Razmos]

Spent 50 coins to buy an Unleashed Cape on my Xenon so I could trade it to my Demon Avenger. I bought it, revealed it, EPIC WITH 6% HP! yess. I held my arms up in triumph before looking more carefully at the cape and realizing it is UNTRADEABLE.

I need to learn to read before I buy. D:

[babo]

The dumb final attack glitch is seriously so annoying on demon avenger (facepalm)

[Satellite]

Finally got 120 on DA yesterday and eww, DA 4th job sucks balls if you ask me. What is supposedly the best attacking skill of DA, did nice dmg but it only hit 3-4 mobs. Seems absolutely useless for training purposes (except maybe at LHC but now that it got nerfed to totally useless, nope).

And fun factor, well... the whole Exceed system encourages spamming the same skill over and over and over again. Need I say more?

[CarrionCrow]

Finally got 120 on DA yesterday and eww, DA 4th job sucks balls if you ask me. What is supposedly the best attacking skill of DA, did nice dmg but it only hit 3-4 mobs. Seems absolutely useless for training purposes (except maybe at LHC but now that it got nerfed to totally useless, nope).

And fun factor, well... the whole Exceed system encourages spamming the same skill over and over and over again. Need I say more?

See Execution as the bossing skill with the extra target as pure bonus and Lunar slash as the grinding tool. Maplers have grown so very spoiled by the classes that hit a truck load of damage on a score of mobs.
As for spamming one skill, the drop in DPS is pretty minor given how fast you get back up and you still prety much one hit kill every normal mob even in the weakest state. I had lots of room to switch and match the other skills. You seldom need to mix the Exceed skills with each other anyway.
DA is by far the strongest and fasted class unfunded, at least of those that I have grinded to 120.

[Thorr]

DA is by far the strongest and fasted class unfunded, at least of those that I have grinded to 120.

I couldn't disagree more. Xenon took me just a few short hours. DA is going much, much slower.