[GMS] GMS v137 - Unleashed

[Clamors]

Can anyone shed light on the following things:

1) PDR Ignore: Still Additive or is it Multiplicative now?

2) Magnus: Do his sword attacks still super KB? Did his green clone skill that summons from those green discs get any slower or is it still fast?

3) Arkarium: Are the snakes not immune to physical damage anymore? Any word on if Dominator Pendants drop now?

4) Are drops in boss runs now separate for all chars or is it still the same for everyone in the group?

[Takebacker]

Can anyone shed light on the following things:

1) PDR Ignore: Still Additive or is it Multiplicative now?

It shows on the stat screen additively, but i MIGHT be applied separately. Looking at my dojo damage makes me think it is separately.

[koplje]

I'm interested in why they bothered changing bigfoot, typhon, and crimsonwood tree stats at all considering you can't even find them with the messed up phantom forest we have.

[Marksman Bryan]

2) Magnus: Do his sword attacks still super KB? Did his green clone skill that summons from those green discs get any slower or is it still fast?

3) Arkarium: Are the snakes not immune to physical damage anymore? Any word on if Dominator Pendants drop now?

4) Are drops in boss runs now separate for all chars or is it still the same for everyone in the group?

might already know this but,

2) sword attacks still super KB and green attack is still unreasonably fast

3) snakes are still immune to physical damage, although the 20 death counter is there now. He does have a monster book card (but apparently new ones don't drop?) but no clue if doms drop

4) boss drops (at least in regular RA) are still the same for whole party


also, I skimmed over the comments, but is the 4th job xenon medal called border patrol..?

[TugboatWilly]

also, I skimmed over the comments, but is the 4th job xenon medal called border patrol..?

It is.

[Clamors]

might already know this but,

[b]2) sword attacks still super KB and green attack is still unreasonably fast

3) snakes are still immune to physical damage, although the 20 death counter is there now. He does have a monster book card (but apparently new ones don't drop?) but no clue if doms drop

4) boss drops (at least in regular RA) are still the same for whole party[b]


also, I skimmed over the comments, but is the 4th job xenon medal called border patrol..?

Sad days...

[MetaSeraphim]

I know it is stupid to complain about little things, but I don't really care for Nexon resetting stuff.

[Kyuu]

is the 4th job xenon medal called border patrol..?

the names are so terrible...
the names in korean are

기억을 찾는 자 (The one who looks for his memory, alternatively Seeker of Memory) translated to: Memory Seeker (I can live with this)

비밀기관 특수요원 (Secret service special agent, quite literally.) translated to: Secret Agent (Pretty straightforward)

자유를 추구하는 자 (The one who seeks his freedom, alternatively Seeker of Freedom) translated to: Captain Freedom (Corny...)

경계에 서있는 자 (The one who is at a divide) translated to: Border Patrol.

What is wrong with you, Nexon? Google translate translates this as "Standing on the border," and it appears that Nexon AM took it quite literally. If you take even a second to look at Xenon's questline, it's clear that he is constantly between two opposing forces - Black Wings vs. Resistance, Machine vs. Humanity. Personally, I would rename it something like "The One Who is Divided" or even "Destiny Divided" as corny as it may sounds... beats Border Patrol.

마지막 귀환자 (The Last one to Return) translated to: Last One Home (This is fine, but I would prefer a more direct translation from the korean root.)


My second gripe is with the skill names (As always) - Beam dancing?? WHY?? Blade Dancing is clearly a better name..
Instant Shock should be Instant Shirk, as discussed on SouthPerry before - "Shirk" means to dodge or avoid, and that's literally what the skill does...

I believe it's the first time I've done this, and I know it's a hassle for her, but @Girasol; could you please maybe talk the translators into possibly changing the names? I know it was done for Phantom, and I don't think it would be too hard in this case to at least change the name of the 4th Job Medal... Xenon has been a class I have truly been waiting for and I can't stand the fact I would be wearing a medal that says "Border Patrol" like some kind of 8 year old joke. "Destiny Divided" or "The One Who is Divided" would be a better name than "Border Patrol" in describing the struggle that Xenon has gone through in his storyline, for sure.

I understand you guys are probably under huge amounts of stress from the bugs from the Unleashed patch, and I also understand that this might not even get to you... But it is truly a wish of mine to see good names and translations for this character I have been waiting for.

[Evolite]

Nerfing Jesters/Aliens is a strong move. 326 comments on the thread on the Nexon forum complaining about it, I wonder if they revert it.

I hope Nexon don't cave into peer pressure.

[MetaSeraphim]

I hope Nexon don't cave into peer pressure.

On the other hand let us pray they cave under the peer pressure of insanely stupid bosses.

[fodjgngf]

Shadow Cygnus
Category : FISH

Oh hey there bigfoot, you're still a shadow of what awesome instant killing amazingness you used to be.. :c

[Ivangold]

Yes, yes it is, my mistake. Must have missed it since the image was broken, had to find it with Ctrl-F. Thank you.

is this breakeable?

[hfok]

It shows on the stat screen additively, but i MIGHT be applied separately. Looking at my dojo damage makes me think it is separately.

Can you please explain what do you mean by applied separately?

[Takebacker]

Can you please explain what do you mean by applied separately?

Kms multiplicative vs gms additive.

[Clamors]

Can you please explain what do you mean by applied separately?

Additive: Let's say you gained 100% ignore def from items (codex, weapon, nebulites, etc.)...you would ignore 100% of the monster's defense because you've accumulated 100% defense ignore (i.e. 30%[codex]+15%[nebulite]+15%[nebulite]+30%[weapon]+10%[link skill])


Multiplicative: Take the same example from above...the % ignore defense would not add up to where you ignore 100% of the monster's defense, but rather would take each % separately and multiply that percentage to the monster's defense. Let's say the monster's defense is 10,000, taking 30% of 10,000 means you ignore 3,000 of the monster's defense. From there, you would then take the other 30% from the remaining defense of the monster, aka 7,000, which would make you ignore another 2,100 of their defense. You would keep doing this and take each % seperately rather than adding them all up to ignore the 10,000 defense outright, meaning you would never fully ignore 100% of their defense.


Edit: I explained that properly right?

2nd Edit: Also I am still trying to understand what the heck they were thinking with the bosses...well specifically Arkarium and Magnus. How do you put the death count in for Ark yet dont change the snakes and don't allow Dom Pends to drop?! And I don't care about the super KB of Magnus' sword moves, but seriously come on with the green clone attack! Give us a break and make them summon slower like they do in KMS instead of like rapid speed like they do now

[hfok]

Additive: Let's say you gained 100% ignore def from items (codex, weapon, nebulites, etc.)...you would ignore 100% of the monster's defense because you've accumulated 100% defense ignore (i.e. 30%[codex]+15%[nebulite]+15%[nebulite]+30%[weapon]+10%[link skill])


Multiplicative: Take the same example from above...the % ignore defense would not add up to where you ignore 100% of the monster's defense, but rather would take each % separately and multiply that percentage to the monster's defense. Let's say the monster's defense is 10,000, taking 30% of 10,000 means you ignore 3,000 of the monster's defense. From there, you would then take the other 30% from the remaining defense of the monster, aka 7,000, which would make you ignore another 2,100 of their defense. You would keep doing this and take each % seperately rather than adding them all up to ignore the 10,000 defense outright, meaning you would never fully ignore 100% of their defense.


Edit: I explained that properly right?

2nd Edit: Also I am still trying to understand what the heck they were thinking with the bosses...well specifically Arkarium and Magnus. How do you put the death count in for Ark yet dont change the snakes and don't allow Dom Pends to drop?! And I don't care about the super KB of Magnus' sword moves, but seriously come on with the green clone attack! Give us a break and make them summon slower like they do in KMS instead of like rapid speed like they do now

Thank you for explaining :)
All I didn't know was separate = multiplicative.

[PirateIzzy]

Uh, 2 map extractions and no new mob extractions o.o
@Locked, could you fix it please?

[Marksman Bryan]

Uh, 2 map extractions and no new mob extractions o.o

Check the previous page

[Spadow]

the names are so terrible...
the names in korean are

기억을 찾는 자 (The one who looks for his memory, alternatively Seeker of Memory) translated to: Memory Seeker (I can live with this)

비밀기관 특수요원 (Secret service special agent, quite literally.) translated to: Secret Agent (Pretty straightforward)

자유를 추구하는 자 (The one who seeks his freedom, alternatively Seeker of Freedom) translated to: Captain Freedom (Corny...)

경계에 서있는 자 (The one who is at a divide) translated to: Border Patrol.

What is wrong with you, Nexon? Google translate translates this as "Standing on the border," and it appears that Nexon AM took it quite literally. If you take even a second to look at Xenon's questline, it's clear that he is constantly between two opposing forces - Black Wings vs. Resistance, Machine vs. Humanity. Personally, I would rename it something like "The One Who is Divided" or even "Destiny Divided" as corny as it may sounds... beats Border Patrol.

마지막 귀환자 (The Last one to Return) translated to: Last One Home (This is fine, but I would prefer a more direct translation from the korean root.)


My second gripe is with the skill names (As always) - Beam dancing?? WHY?? Blade Dancing is clearly a better name..
Instant Shock should be Instant Shirk, as discussed on SouthPerry before - "Shirk" means to dodge or avoid, and that's literally what the skill does...

I believe it's the first time I've done this, and I know it's a hassle for her, but @Girasol; could you please maybe talk the translators into possibly changing the names? I know it was done for Phantom, and I don't think it would be too hard in this case to at least change the name of the 4th Job Medal... Xenon has been a class I have truly been waiting for and I can't stand the fact I would be wearing a medal that says "Border Patrol" like some kind of 8 year old joke. "Destiny Divided" or "The One Who is Divided" would be a better name than "Border Patrol" in describing the struggle that Xenon has gone through in his storyline, for sure.

I understand you guys are probably under huge amounts of stress from the bugs from the Unleashed patch, and I also understand that this might not even get to you... But it is truly a wish of mine to see good names and translations for this character I have been waiting for.

Let me start to begin that the localization team of North America localizes content appropriately for Westerners.
All imported content from Korea are adjusted or rewritten for pop-culture reception.
There will always be a slight difference in translation in almost every version. I think the North American team is quite good.

경계에 서있는 자 means: The one who stands on the border. Even though it is not literally translated in the GMS, but Border Patrol is okay. I don't even understand what ''the one who is at a divide'' means...
Xenon uses an Energy Sword in KMS but uses a Beam Whip in GMS. That's why Blade Dancing is renamed to Beam Dancing.

I've looked into the Twilight Perion & Demon quests and they seem fine. On the other hand MSEA's localization team needs to improve. They translate Demons as Wicked Tribe.

[PirateIzzy]

Check the previous page

So, it's not gonna happen, I assume? Okay then :/