DotA2 - Original Thread

[IllegallySane]

Oh snap. International DoTA 2 tournaments please!

Wait so you're asking on how to win a game you already gave up on and were losing horribly on?

You can't.

What kind of a statement is this? You make it sound like I somehow paused the game and posted right there on SP how to win. The game already happened, I'm just asking for feedback on how to do better next time, in which I got some golden advice on how to counter said hero.

[Raul]

Ironically the game lasted an hour and 25 minutes, the longest bloody game I've played so far. I think it began with Zeus getting first blood, then it only went downhill from there when he, Storm Spirit, and Gyro got super fat. It also didn't help Keeper of the Light on my team for some reason picked up not one but TWO Mjolnirs, or Leshrac picking up 2 Bloodstones and an Assault Cuirass. After about the 60 minute mark I just didn't care anymore about winning, mostly since I couldn't think straight at that point.

That Leshrac build is, while not the best build out there, not actually that bad. He does composite damage, has decent right-click damage, and loves lasting throughout a fight and needs the regen, health, and mana from bloodstone to do so. Replacing the second Bloodstone with BKB probably would be better though.

Also, I'm basically just waiting for 6.78 to hit. The pomegranatestorm will likely be hilarious.

[IllegallySane]

That Leshrac build is, while not the best build out there, not actually that bad. He does composite damage, has decent right-click damage, and loves lasting throughout a fight and needs the regen, health, and mana from bloodstone to do so. Replacing the second Bloodstone with BKB probably would be better though.

Also, I'm basically just waiting for 6.78 to hit. The pomegranatestorm will likely be hilarious.

Oh I know Bloodstone is a core item on Lesh. I found it absurd he grabbed a 2nd one though. I'm sorry but Bloodstoneception doesn't exist.

I won't be able to hold all of the Drow tears once the patch hits. We can probably provide water for all 3rd world countries. Haha.

[Raul]

Drow already got nerfed pretty hard in 6.77c, I doubt she'll get touched again.

Interested to see who or what Icefrog will promote next.

[IllegallySane]

Drow already got nerfed pretty hard in 6.77c, I doubt she'll get touched again.

Interested to see who or what Icefrog will promote next.

Oh that's right, that nerf is already here! Maybe an indirect nerf to Nyx?

[Salguod]

I'm really enjoying Spectre. She's so active that it forces me to look at other lanes more often. I've been sloppy in team fights since carrying is kinda overwhelming for me, but it's still really easy to get kills. I haven't had the chance to get Radiance yet, since by the time I'm done with the core, it's time to get a Reaver for Heart. I wish I did though. So many people, especially supports, are getting away with little health left. Haven't had the chance to get any lifesteal either. Is that only for really long games?

[Raul]

I'm really enjoying Spectre. She's so active that it forces me to look at other lanes more often. I've been sloppy in team fights since carrying is kinda overwhelming for me, but it's still really easy to get kills. I haven't had the chance to get Radiance yet, since by the time I'm done with the core, it's time to get a Reaver for Heart. I wish I did though. So many people, especially supports, are getting away with little health left. Haven't had the chance to get any lifesteal either. Is that only for really long games?

If you're being active in teamfights fairly early (before 20 or 25 minutes) and fun stuff like that, a Radiance isn't really what you want. Diffusal Blade will help you out with ganking and getting kills and locking people down away from their team. It also gives you more relevant stats on Spectre (the +damage doesn't apply to her Haunt illusions). Manta is also a good early item (or at least the Yasha to start) because of the agi and movement speed it gives both to you and your illusions. Radiance is more a farmer's item that helps you get a lot of items up fast but it's much less worth it if you can't get it up before 25 minutes or so (which is fairly hard to do on anyone in a pub, much less Spectre who has little to no lane presence early on).
Also, don't get Vanguard. It's really not a very good item. I don't know if you are getting it, but if you are then I would advise you not to.

[IllegallySane]

Dat feeling when Wisp on the enemy side got so fed he got a Heart. It's both infuriating and yet hilarious at the same time.

[IllegallySane]

I just HAVE to post this. Words of the Drunken Warlord for Brewmaster.



Dare I throw money at Valve? This weapon skin. DO FREAKING WANT SO MUCH.

[Dusk]

I dunno, all the pomegranate in the shop is just so expensive. I don't mind supporting the game and I have bought the Bastion announcer and a couple of keys, but I don't want to be paying 15 bucks for a skin..

[IllegallySane]

I dunno, all the pomegranate in the shop is just so expensive. I don't mind supporting the game and I have bought the Bastion announcer and a couple of keys, but I don't want to be paying 15 bucks for a skin..

Well there's one interesting question: Is it entirely possible to get the item via the drop system? If playing means I get a chance of getting the weapon skin for free, then so be it. I'm in no hurry to main Brewmaster, but who knows if I'll main him in the future.

[Malthe]

It should drop, yeah, the lina re-model also drops.

[Malthe]

Double post because this is sick:


Seems blurpi got competition.

[Raul]

That Timbersaw dodging the shackleshot and the Nyx getting the impale on the BH twice just blow my mind. The Rubick waveform steal is incredible too.

Speaking of Rubick stealing spells...


Rubick has some pretty pineappleing cool animations for stolen spells.

EDIT: oh my, his animation when he steals culling blade. Try it for yourself.

[IllegallySane]

Double post because this is sick:


Seems blurpi got competition.

OH MY GOD. Dat Timbersaw, DAT Rubick. DEM SPECIAL EFFECTS!



Instant fave forever.

[Malthe]

Currently contemplating if i should use my savings to travel to TI3 or upgrade my PC.

THIS IS HARDER THAN PICKING BETWEEN CHARMANDER, BULBASAUR AND SQUIRTLE WHEN YOU'RE 6 YEARS OLD.

nevar 4get:

Long Live The International

The Play

Can You Feel It?

Also i can't get over the fact that at TI2 gaben had already put 2k hours into dota2. Devs that play and enjoy the games they're behind are the best in my book.

[Raul]

Your PC can stand to be the way it is for a while longer. TI3 is something that you don't get to see every day.

That Na'Vi vs. iG teamfight... I think I remember something about that. Na'Vi intentionally let iG have Naga/DS/Tide which was a super strong and usually banned combo just to prove that it could be beaten (with enigma/rubick), right? Or something along those lines. That was one of the first things I remember hearing about pro Dota 2.

god, what happened to Enigma and Tide in the pro scene?

[IllegallySane]

god, what happened to Enigma and Tide in the pro scene?

The heck if I know. Perhaps Tide was dropped due to Dendi just stealing Ravage too many times. Oh wait...

Now that I think about it like that, maybe the pro scene are that afraid of Enigma and Tide's ults being used against them like that. Dendi confirmed for utterly shifting the metagame with his presence.

[Raul]

Tree seems to have become a new Empire pocket pick; they've picked him again.

[Dusk]

The heck if I know. Perhaps Tide was dropped due to Dendi just stealing Ravage too many times. Oh wait...

Now that I think about it like that, maybe the pro scene are that afraid of Enigma and Tide's ults being used against them like that. Dendi confirmed for utterly shifting the metagame with his presence.

You're thinking about it the wrong way; Tide (and to a lesser extent, Engima) isn't being banned or picked because he's not a favored hero in the current metagame. And there's several factors that play into that:

- Magnus got crazy buffs while Tide's ult got nerfed
- Split push meta favors high mobility heroes
- Na'ix is pretty popular right now