RED update thoughts and feedback

[Jedward]

Zero's Henesys storyline begins with...

MAYA IS SICK

goodbye

[Razmos]

Spoiler

Free +9 Magic Attack, yay.

[Prism]

I personally don't like Zero but liked the story; however, Zero play style is so bleh that I end up skipping over story quest dialog just to try and get it over with.

Hopefully I can just read the quest data later.

I'd also be level 12 in Alchemy if we had Fatigue potions. Jeez, the price of them in the cash shop is too steep.

[MuscleWizard]

I personally don't like Zero but liked the story; however, Zero play style is so bleh that I end up skipping over story quest dialog just to try and get it over with.

Hopefully I can just read the quest data later.

I'd also be level 12 in Alchemy if we had Fatigue potions. Jeez, the price of them in the cash shop is too steep.

the old ones still work but have a thirty minute cooldown

[Prism]

Already went through my old ones. Don't believe there is anywhere in game to purchase new ones?

[chickdigger802]

so during 2exp this weekend/today, it makes more sense to lvl other guys over zero?

[donovan]

Yes, the amount of EXP you gain from killing stuff is quite small in comparison to Quest EXP.

[Marksman Bryan]

I'll just throw out there that 2.5k nx for 2x quest exp, which lasts 10 days, is absolutely wonderful and a REALLY good price. Even I bought one.

[hadriel]

@Stereo; The cooldown reduction for every attack applies for ALL cooldowns. Unless you play with sub-double-digit latency, yes it's not going to be very observable for those 5-10 second cooldown skills. However, Time Holding will reset the cooldown of Time Rewind while providing yourself with 15 seconds of invulnerability, so the Time Rewind-Time Holding combo is extremely strong. Couple that with the fact that Time Holding has a cooldown of only 180 seconds before Mercedes' card... yeah.

Spadow showed a video of Zero killing Arky when Zero was released in KMS, and brushing aside several consecutive screen crashes. It felt odd to me that he could use Time Holding so often until I figured out what was going on.

Hadriel

[MuscleWizard]

oh man I just realized


advanced throwing weapon is a summon. summon duration cards should therefore apply for it

[Icedemontrihorn]

Zero is probably a class where I can just relax and look at the storyline over the typical "get character to ___ level and go back to drk". Pretty decent story but the playstyle is iffy sometimes. Sometimes it's fun and other times it's a hassle (usually when im using beta and switching from beta to alpha). >.>

[Muppy]

So, anyone else thinks that the FJ animation for warriors is wrong?

I mean, I think it'd make much more sense if it was flipped horizontally.

[Mentalist]

I received a permanent Fennec Fox in Bera. You can claim free permanent pets once per world.

[Alex123123]

I haven't gotten too far on my Zero (level 112) but what bothers me is Alpha's basic combo. That Slash->rush->teleport combo is pretty pineappleing awkward (I regret putting a point on the teleport skill), and sometimes Alpha will just phase through some mobs. So it's like trying to control a mobile clusterpineapple.

The gameplay improves with the level 110 cooldown skill Alpha gets, but it still feels like I don't have much control over the character. Heck, so far I've found myself using Beta a whole lot more than Alpha for ... everything. I'll keep playing it for the story (and Beta <3) tho. Maybe I'll get better at handling this class shenanigans. <_<

[Takebacker]

oh man I just realized


advanced throwing weapon is a summon. summon duration cards should therefore apply for it

I doubt another like .1 seconds on it's duration would be helpful in any way

[HellenzSin]

I haven't gotten too far on my Zero (level 112) but what bothers me is Alpha's basic combo. That Slash->rush->teleport combo is pretty pineappleing awkward (I regret putting a point on the teleport skill), and sometimes Alpha will just phase through some mobs. So it's like trying to control a mobile clusterpineapple.

The gameplay improves with the level 110 cooldown skill Alpha gets, but it still feels like I don't have much control over the character. Heck, so far I've found myself using Beta a whole lot more than Alpha for ... everything. I'll keep playing it for the story (and Beta <3) tho. Maybe I'll get better at handling this class shenanigans. <_<

I felt the same way. Alpha gets way better later on though, once you get rolling cross.

[MuscleWizard]

I doubt another like .1 seconds on it's duration would be helpful in any way

corsair and jett is +16% summon duration total

4sec base

.16*4 = 0.64 seconds extra

[Takebacker]

I haven't gotten too far on my Zero (level 112) but what bothers me is Alpha's basic combo. That Slash->rush->teleport combo is pretty pineappleing awkward (I regret putting a point on the teleport skill), and sometimes Alpha will just phase through some mobs. So it's like trying to control a mobile clusterpineapple.

The gameplay improves with the level 110 cooldown skill Alpha gets, but it still feels like I don't have much control over the character. Heck, so far I've found myself using Beta a whole lot more than Alpha for ... everything. I'll keep playing it for the story (and Beta <3) tho. Maybe I'll get better at handling this class shenanigans. <_<

The worst thing about alpha basic combo is that if you have no pots and you attack he'll just teleport straight on top of things and you die. At least you can kind of cheat death by switching to beta but there are other terrible things about shadow blade or whatever the tele is called.

corsair and jett is +16% summon duration total

4sec base

.16*4 = 0.64 seconds extra

Wouldn't it round down to 4 seconds anyway?

[Stereo]

I haven't gotten too far on my Zero (level 112) but what bothers me is Alpha's basic combo. That Slash->rush->teleport combo is pretty pineappleing awkward (I regret putting a point on the teleport skill), and sometimes Alpha will just phase through some mobs. So it's like trying to control a mobile clusterpineapple.

I don't think you have a choice about putting a point in the Teleport skill; when I put 1 SP in Slash, the quests gave me 1 each in rush+teleport and 8 in mastery.



Oh yeah, more complaints coming down the pipeline.

None of Beta's skills can be jumpcast.
Half of Alpha's can, but not when being tagged - if you're beta, you cast them on the ground.

[Takebacker]

Oh yeah, more complaints coming down the pipeline.

None of Beta's skills can be jumpcast.
Half of Alpha's can, but not when being tagged - if you're beta, you cast them on the ground.

Attacks have immense vertical range down the road though...it would be so unfair and work against her theme of being strong as hell but slow as f'uck if you could air cast (and thus be moving while you attack and also adjust the range you need to hit above you). Alpha is supposed to move all the time and be fast and combo with beta so they both get what they lack.