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    He tested it on a mob with 10 PDR..
    Difference wouldn't be that high regardless.

  2. Desk Straight Male
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    So guys, does anyone have a list of what % ignore of potential stacks with what skill? As looking in for the % ignore of the skills in jump, will then the potential of the weapons become, well, meh?

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    Did you bother reading the thread? o.o

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    Is it possible mob PDR doesn't do what we think it does?

    Went to test the stacking at Chief Oblivion Guardians (PDRate = 20).
    I have 40% ignore def from Combat Mastery, 5.5% from Ambition, and was testing with and without %15 from Codex (no difference observed with and without).
    Used normal attack, no active buffs.
    Observed range: ~95% of my damage range... as if I have a total of ~75% ignore def, or they have only ~10 PDRate. Or Heros have a hidden 10% damage increase passive somewhere that doesn't show on char stats damage range display?

    Just to add to the puzzle of Stereo's 21% Blast turning into 50.

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    I used to consider ignore def as a really useful stat to have but I'm not so sure about that now....

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    Threaten's only a 2.1% difference in damage and it's pretty obvious. I would know if the 15% pdr worked, as it's 1.5% more damage assuming it adds to the other ignore pdr.

    Anyway, with some of the numbers I posted, I narrowed the range of possible pdr values down to 0.2% ignore PDR so it doesn't seem unreasonable to me that I would be able to notice a 15% ignore PDR difference.


    I have a 15% ignore PDR weapon on a mule but unfortunately my second computer's out of commission so I have no way to transfer it.

    Tomorrow I should try testing on something with higher PDR, it's pretty monotonous but not that difficult.

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    Drop trade it? There are lots of areas throughout the Maple world that not a lot of people go to so it is easy to do. Unless you lag really badly when switching between accounts.

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    As it's my #2 weapon (the one I would have used if my Bellocce broke enhancing) no. Not gonna do that.

    Right now I'm kinda speculating you get 1% ignore PDR per level, up to 30% ignore at +30 levels? Anyone want to test that out?

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    I tried out the official knights in future henesey. They have 35% pdr ignore and I noticed no difference in the damage with and without the leafre buff (30% defence ignore). They are similar mobs to the castle golems so maybe it doesn't affect those mobs. If not PDR ignore really isn't as good as we thought from potential equips which is why we are able to get those 15% ignore on weapons even when they are only "rare".

    What do you mean 1% per level? per level of what?

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    I'm gonna guess he means levels of difference between the player and the monster?

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    a bunch of us are reporting that %ignore stats aren't working in general at all, be it codex or weapon mod.
    can anyone else here confirm that?

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  13. Donator Straight Male
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    i like stuff the simple way.



    i have the crusader set equipped, and a range of 7002~10003, no berzerk on, so what i deal is what it is. assuming the 25% PDR, my maximum possible damage would be 7502.25, and my minimum if the monster book effect of ignore 15% PDR applies, would be 5514.07, if i hit over the first number, PDR applied, if i went under the second, PDR didn't apply, in the SS you can see me hitting a good 100 damage under it.

    do note i wasn't even accounting my 5.5% PDR ignore from ambition, which would make the numbers even higher, so i guess this also backs the theory of "it doesn't stack"

    oh, weapon potential is +15 int. no lines or anything with damage/%PDR ignore

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    Double post...


    Wtp at 100 unused AP? Whhyyy

  15. Donator Straight Male
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    when i said i was level 155 for too long in that other thread, i wasn't joking

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    Pretty much concurring this. I did 6770 damage on a 25% PDR Dojo boss with a minimum range of 9001 and Ignore 30% PDR on the book.
    9001 * (1 - (0.25*0.7)) = 7425
    9001 * (1 - 0.25) = 6750

  17. Donator Straight Male
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    so we can conclude that the problem isn't stacking, but the monster book PDR effect not working at all, now here's a hard one, does the ambition bonus work? i doubt we can figure this one easily >.< and it will still take me a long time to get maxed ambition

  18. Won't Be Coming Back Male

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    I found a sleepywood thread on this topic, and they're saying that ALL ignore def potentials are broken as of v1.00.

  19. Donator Straight Male
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    i'm pretty sure they are wrong, sacrifice still ignores PDR as far as i know. i have no ignore PDR weapons though.

  20. Won't Be Coming Back Male

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    Well they're talking about potentials specifically.
    I had 30% PDR on my dagger yesterday, but I cubed over it this morning, I should have done calcs first,

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