Ignoring defence

[Illusion]

My character currently has 132,5% ignore defence (30% Codex, 35% Weapon, 30% Force Shield, 7,5% Ambition, 30% Bind), but my damage is still a lot lower on Empress than for example on Von Leon. Shouldn't I be doing the same damage on every monster, since I have over 100% ignore defence? Or am I seeing something wrong here...

[Chew]

Aren't those bosses Physical/Magical and every element resistant?

[Locked]

Physical Resist cuts damage in half.

[Illusion]

My character is a DS, so I don't have any elements. Physical Resist is PDR if I'm correct? And isn't ignoring defence on weapons the same as ignoring PDR? I'm a little confused right now.

[PeePeeAyeDeeKay]

My character is a DS, so I don't have any elements. Physical Resist is PDR if I'm correct? And isn't ignoring defence on weapons the same as ignoring PDR? I'm a little confused right now.

Defense Ignore on potential ignores the defense everyone knows about. Physical Resistance is like Elemental Resistances, it resists damage like how Obsidian Skin works in a way.

[Locked]

My character is a DS, so I don't have any elements. Physical Resist is PDR if I'm correct? And isn't ignoring defence on weapons the same as ignoring PDR? I'm a little confused right now.

..No.
Physical Resist is resistance to physical attacks.. AKA weapon attack classes.
Magicians can bypass Physical Resist by using Elemental Reset.

[Untradeable]

..No.
Physical Resist is resistance to physical attacks.. AKA weapon attack classes.
Magicians can bypass Physical Resist by using Elemental Reset.

Would this work for Phantoms as well?

[Cere]

..No.
Physical Resist is resistance to physical attacks.. AKA weapon attack classes.
Magicians can bypass Physical Resist by using Elemental Reset.

But we're not even using physical attacks, so why would we need to use reset for our magic attacks against something with Physical Resist?

[Grey]

Would this work for Phantoms as well?

No. Elemental Reset will only cancel out the element on magical attacks.

Mage attacks that aren't elemental are also reduced by Physical Resistance and can be cancelled out by Reset. (Magic Claw, Illusion).

Physical Resistance reduces damage on ANY attack that doesn't have an associated element, physical or magical.

[Untradeable]

No. Elemental Reset will only cancel out the element on magical attacks.

Mage attacks that aren't elemental are also reduced by Physical Resistance and can be cancelled out by Reset. (Magic Claw, Illusion).

Physical Resistance reduces damage on ANY attack that doesn't have an associated element, physical or magical.

But it would work if a Phantom used Chain Lightning+Elemental Reset?

[Forever]

Would this work for Phantoms as well?

It works only on phantom's magic attacks I believe.
@TS
There's two types of defense.
Physical Resist
Physical defense
Physical defense is what PDR ignores.
Physical resist cannot be ignored by weapon attack classes, and is a flat damage reduction.
Empress has 70% physical defense and 50% physical resist.
Pink bean also has physical resist, as well as some other bosses(Ellin forest boss has 70%, hilla has 60%)

[Chew]

But we're not even using physical attacks, so why would we need to use reset for our magic attacks against something with Physical Resist?

It would be because magicians use magical attacks with element atributes.
Reseting that atribute bypasses that resistance.
Am I right?

[Forever]

It would be because magicians use magical attacks with element atributes.
Reseting that atribute bypasses that resistance.
Am I right?

I believe that some magician skills are flagged as physical element.
Magic claw is one off the top of my head, as well as some Evan skills.
Reset would make those skills immune to resist.

[Grey]

But it would work if a Phantom used Chain Lightning+Elemental Reset?

Yeah, it would.

I did some, rather basic, math comparing Rapid Fire+Combo vs Paralyze+Elemental Reset on physical resistant, completely elemental resistant bosses here. (As of after the next mage revamp, but before Tempest)

[Cere]

It would be because magicians use magical attacks with element atributes.
Reseting that atribute bypasses that resistance.
Am I right?

Not if it's elemental attacks against physical resist...?

I believe that some magician skills are flagged as physical element.
Magic claw is one off the top of my head, as well as some Evan skills.
Reset would make those skills immune to resist.

Ah, I see. So the archmages would not really have many such skills in their attack repertoire anyway, I don't think.

[Even]

Was wondering why my evan was doing so much dmg on the ellin forest boss, makes a lot of more sense now.

[Illusion]

Ah learned something new, thanks for explaining!
Is there a list of bosses and how much physical resist they have?

And one more question, going over 100% PDR ignore is useless right?

[Untradeable]

Ah learned something new, thanks for explaining!
Is there a list of bosses and how much physical resist they have?

And one more question, going over 100% PDR ignore is useless right?

Iirc, Only Chaos Pink Bean requires more than 100% PDR Ignore, at 180% I think.

[ShinkuDragon]

Iirc, Only Chaos Pink Bean requires more than 100% PDR Ignore, at 180% I think.

no, since %ignore ignores a percentage of their defense, so if you ignore 100% of CPB's defense, you're ignoring all 180%. this is why the more def a boss has, the more effective ignore becomes, because it ignores larger chunks of defense.

Ah learned something new, thanks for explaining!
Is there a list of bosses and how much physical resist they have?

And one more question, going over 100% PDR ignore is useless right?

you can use extractions or look for them in maplearchive, afaik P.Resist is always 50%, while P.Defense is variable and it's what PDR ignores.

[PirateIzzy]

Physical defense is what PDR ignores.

...Except Physical defense and PDR are the same thing.