[KMST] Pink Bean - An in-depth look

[Chompy]

140k....
Wow.
I REALLY hope the map becomes bigger...
Or something..
I mean if we could all jump over him..
It might work.
GOD HE IS GOING TO SUCK TO FIGHT!.


Maybe we will be able to FULLY upgrade our HT pendants before we get him

[Zaotsu]

Maybe we will be able to FULLY upgrade our HT pendants before we get him

Fully upgrading the HT pendant wont do anything besides increase your damage. o_O

I believe aggroed =! KBing when dealing with rush. I think the best display is sometimes at Anego, how she will break the pin and suddenly rush a player. (I'm not completely sure on this issue though)

[ZartMorder]

A thought occurred to me when going to bed last night... Has the boss room been checked for warps? If there were two warp points on the far sides of the room, this boss would seem much more feasible. It would be helpful for the statue parts too if you can't walk under them without taking touch damage.

[Stereo]

Fully upgrading the HT pendant wont do anything besides increase your damage. o_O

I believe aggroed =! KBing when dealing with rush. I think the best display is sometimes at Anego, how she will break the pin and suddenly rush a player. (I'm not completely sure on this issue though)

It's definitely possible for 2 people to rush the same monster, I'm not sure why Anego unpins but I believe it's related to people failing to KB which means she doesn't flinch, and then it messes up the positions of the ranged characters so they can't keep attacking.

[Renascentia]

Rushing wont be a good solution i suggest you just have 3 partys on the left side of it and 2 on the right. It only has the speed of a snail.

[Mickey]

Only view on this monster.

KMS are a little late for April Fools... -_-

[Fiel]

A thought occurred to me when going to bed last night... Has the boss room been checked for warps? If there were two warp points on the far sides of the room, this boss would seem much more feasible. It would be helpful for the statue parts too if you can't walk under them without taking touch damage.

The only portal in the room is the one to exit. There are no intra-map portals.

[Chompy]

Fully upgrading the HT pendant wont do anything besides increase your damage. o_O

I believe aggroed =! KBing when dealing with rush. I think the best display is sometimes at Anego, how she will break the pin and suddenly rush a player. (I'm not completely sure on this issue though)

Increased Acc means more space for Stronger equips
BUT more importantly increased INT means MORE EASY HP WASHING!@@!
If you have the cash... You could Hp wash SOO crazy with some 50+ gear + a full HT pendant. You might be able to HP wash every level.
Which means you could SURVIVE a touch. Yep.

[EchoFaith]

quite amazing i think. it might be worth getting to 200 just to fight this thing xD

[Zaotsu]

Increased Acc means more space for Stronger equips
BUT more importantly increased INT means MORE EASY HP WASHING!@@!
If you have the cash... You could Hp wash SOO crazy with some 50+ gear + a full HT pendant. You might be able to HP wash every level.
Which means you could SURVIVE a touch. Yep.

Yes. +3 HT pendant = 57.2 more acc, which means less worrying about accuracy, being able to use Top / Bottom or FS, which means more damage, which is exactly what I said.

I highly doubt a majority of Ranged classes will be willing to attempt to get roughly 15k HP base in order to survive a touch. That is just obscene amounts spend on resetting. Or, people would have to go blood and just pump all their points into it if they wanted to survive a touch hit.

[Sinnuendo]

Yes. +3 HT pendant = 57.2 more acc, which means less worrying about accuracy, being able to use Top / Bottom or FS, which means more damage, which is exactly what I said.

I highly doubt a majority of Ranged classes will be willing to attempt to get roughly 15k HP base in order to survive a touch. That is just obscene amounts spend on resetting. Or, people would have to go blood and just pump all their points into it if they wanted to survive a touch hit.

Well, they'll just have to avoid touching him. He walks as fast as a snail, so honestly it shouldn't be too hard (unless omfgcrazyskulllolololol). ._.

Or you could have a team of 6 Shadowers Assassinate him every 3 seconds. xP

Edit: Or better yet, have a bunch of Vipers and Shadowers, and spam Smoke Shell. >_>

[Cactuar]

Only Shadowers can do knockbacks of 100k+ damage, since the first 3 hits of assassinate are counted as 1 attack. So Shadowers' max KB is 300k...

KNOCKBACK DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY! Seriously, it has to be in a single hit or it won't work.

[Wani]

I thought it was a monster that is being kb'd by someone else - I've had no trouble rushing pap when NLs are attacking but not KB'ing it.

I think who a monster is agroed to depends on KB or something like that, in which case it was probably agroed to you.

[ZartMorder]

I think who a monster is agroed to depends on KB or something like that, in which case it was probably agroed to you.

Yeah, I think monsters follow those who KB it most (and more recently). Not sure on exactly how it works, but Pap always follows me rather than the NL that's in my party.

[MasPan]

Only view on this monster.

KMS are a little late for April Fools... -_-

MICKS!
Anyways, what the 2 posted above this about kb/aggro may be right, dunno -rush works in a weird way...

[ZartMorder]

True, rush is a bit flukey. The problem with using rush against PB is that if rush fails to push him (as it does at Pap), the rusher will plow into him and take damage. I'm not sure of the damage they'll take, but it may well be fatal.

[BMW]

This definitely holds true to the phrase "Looks can be deceiving." But seriously, 7b+ HP combined, that's ridiculous.

[MasPan]

True, rush is a bit flukey. The problem with using rush against PB is that if rush fails to push him (as it does at Pap), the rusher will plow into him and take damage. I'm not sure of the damage they'll take, but it may well be fatal.

Or, if he has a weird hit box/can't be rushed when attacking (as was the case with Puff Daddy at times), rush may simply not connect at all. This may change with higher levels of rush, idk. Hitting under PB probably won't be a problem, but accidentally rushing into a statue when trying to kb PB may.

[ZartMorder]

That won't be a concern. PB can't be touched in his weak form and he can't touch you (except maybe status ailments?). Once you kill off all the statues (the first 5 stages), that is when you must face the strong form of PB. The only other monsters that will hinder you are the mini-bean summons.

[Devil]

KNOCKBACK DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY! Seriously, it has to be in a single hit or it won't work.

Yes, for Assassinate it -does- work that way (if you don't believe me, check it out yourself). The KB effect is applied AFTER the first 3 hits...

So if a group of Shadowers with onyx apples can deal out 140k/3 = 47.000 damage per separate assassinate hit (uncharged), they can keep the PB knocked back... in theory... :)