Ask a Warrior Thread.

[Stereo]

Noticed a couple minor changes to Warrior skills, figured I'd ask about them.

1) Stance can't go over 30 with CO anymore. Does CO still work with it? I don't wanna do a full SP reset unless I'm actually gonna recover 2 SP.

2) Divine Shield's buff stays up even after the GUARDs run out now. (the 34 atk part) This shows up in my range but is it real damage or client sided? Also, since it lasts 90 seconds and DS can activate every 30, I basically have that attack buff all the time.

3) Divine Shield's activation hit seems to bypass PG + Achilles? I'm taking startlingly high damage on the hit that starts it up, although I haven't paid close enough attention to be certain of this.

[SaptaZapta]

Noticed a couple minor changes to Warrior skills, figured I'd ask about them.

1) Stance can't go over 30 with CO anymore. Does CO still work with it? I don't wanna do a full SP reset unless I'm actually gonna recover 2 SP.

2) Divine Shield's buff stays up even after the GUARDs run out now. (the 34 atk part) This shows up in my range but is it real damage or client sided? Also, since it lasts 90 seconds and DS can activate every 30, I basically have that attack buff all the time.

1) Leafre Set works with Stance on my Hero, so I assume CO does as well. Too lazy to reassign over 500 SP on my Pally to check it.

[PirateIzzy]

[color=#a000e0]Noticed a couple minor changes to Warrior skills, figured I'd ask about them.

1) Stance can't go over 30 with CO anymore. Does CO still work with it? I don't wanna do a full SP reset unless I'm actually gonna recover 2 SP.

The CO tag was removed for Stance in this patch, so it's not supposed to anymore.

[ShinkuDragon]

The CO tag was removed for Stance in this patch, so it's not supposed to anymore.

pretty sure all the CO tag does is allow it to break cap. since other skills don't have it

[Nion]

The CO tag was removed for Stance in this patch, so it's not supposed to anymore.

Aren't they making Stance 100% at lv 30 soon? If so, then that would explain why CO isn't suppose to apply.

[SaptaZapta]

Aren't they making Stance 100% at lv 30 soon? If so, then that would explain why CO isn't suppose to apply.

It's 100% at level 30 now, which is indeed why the CO flag got removed.
But as Shinku said, all that means is that it can't break cap. If it's at 28 and you cast CO, it'll be 30.

[PirateIzzy]

pretty sure all the CO tag does is allow it to break cap. since other skills don't have it

Yeah, that's what it's supposed to do.

[Bomber]

Noticed a couple minor changes to Warrior skills, figured I'd ask about them.

1) Stance can't go over 30 with CO anymore. Does CO still work with it? I don't wanna do a full SP reset unless I'm actually gonna recover 2 SP.

2) Divine Shield's buff stays up even after the GUARDs run out now. (the 34 atk part) This shows up in my range but is it real damage or client sided? Also, since it lasts 90 seconds and DS can activate every 30, I basically have that attack buff all the time.
3) Divine Shield's activation hit seems to bypass PG + Achilles? I'm taking startlingly high damage on the hit that starts it up, although I haven't paid close enough attention to be certain of this.

It is real damage.

[JPTheMonkey]

So I noticed something odd with my skill bonuses and can't figure out why it is like this.

Spoiler

My buffs have CO active (+2), my Codex is set to Leafre (+1), but my skills that can gain more than +3 are at +4. Why do they have an extra +1? I have no clue where this is coming from. Weapon shown, as it is the only other item that has +skills that I know of.

[ShinkuDragon]

what's ytour inner potential?

[JPTheMonkey]

I have none on this character. Only recently picked him back up (chat box was me mentioning plans to move equips back from my demon slayer to finalize my move).

[SaptaZapta]

Didn't you once say you had +1 on various skills other than Blast, from that weapon?

Try unequipping it and see whether the +4's become +3's.

[JPTheMonkey]

That crossed my mind, considering I did contemplate this occurrence at some point in the past, but I forgot the answer after 6 months of not playing my Paladin regularly. It does so happen that removing my weapon drops the skill level by 1, so now to figure out why my BW adds 1 to pretty much all 4th job skills except for Rush and MW as far as I know. I have no points in MM to check that skill out.

[Stereo]

It's a glitch that's existed since one of the betas. There's an 'order' to the 4th job skills reverse/timeless items give bonuses to, and any item that has +1 to skills, *only when CO is active*, will do +1 to every skill before that one in the order too.

Iirc it affected some 1st-3rd job skills too but not all.

I guess it's just so rare for a Paladin to have a +1 skill equip with unmaxed skills that it doesn't come up.

I'm not sure how to find that thread again, I think I posted the order.

[ShinkuDragon]

It's a glitch that's existed since one of the betas. There's an 'order' to the 4th job skills reverse/timeless items give bonuses to, and any item that has +1 to skills, *only when CO is active*, will do +1 to every skill before that one in the order too.

Iirc it affected some 1st-3rd job skills too but not all.

I guess it's just so rare for a Paladin to have a +1 skill equip with unmaxed skills that it doesn't come up.

I'm not sure how to find that thread again, I think I posted the order.

i remember that, i completely missed that the weapon had the +1 thinguie, and asked for aswan. i can't find it for the life of me though

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It's a glitch that's existed since one of the betas. There's an 'order' to the 4th job skills reverse/timeless items give bonuses to, and any item that has +1 to skills, *only when CO is active*, will do +1 to every skill before that one in the order too.

Iirc it affected some 1st-3rd job skills too but not all.

I guess it's just so rare for a Paladin to have a +1 skill equip with unmaxed skills that it doesn't come up.

I'm not sure how to find that thread again, I think I posted the order.

i remember that, i completely missed that the weapon had the +1 thinguie, and asked for aswan. i can't find it for the life of me though

[Stereo]

Finally found one post I mentioned it, I was fairly sure it was related to the Big Bang round of Tespia.
http://www.southperry.net/showthread...l=1#post604949
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=34845

VBulletin search is making this hard, I can't find all posts by me from Dec. 1st-16th 2010.

Unfortunately I maybe deleted my screenshots from this round of Tespia...

[ShinkuDragon]

Finally found one post I mentioned it, I was fairly sure it was related to the Big Bang round of Tespia.
http://www.southperry.net/showthread...l=1#post604949
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=34845

VBulletin search is making this hard, I can't find all posts by me from Dec. 1st-16th 2010.

Unfortunately I maybe deleted my screenshots from this round of Tespia...

yea, i remember stellarashes had the problem with +passive SP from aswan, but i can't access his posts in that timeframe either.

[JPTheMonkey]

Ah, okay, thanks. I'd take advantage of it with my BW as it is, but the numbers are so confusing I'd rather just max everything except Blast which is clearly +1 (leave it at 29) and let CO take everything else to 32 later when I'm not dead-set on finally putting SP into Heaven's Hammer.

[Abrasive]

I was wondering when, if ever, does Carrion Breath + Lash on a Demon Slayer out damage Lash + Impact. I guess the same can be asked for just pure lash spamming or any other options that would be superior.

[IllegallySane]

What's up with my old White Knight?

I'm not sure if there's something wrong. He's got nothing on and has max HP Boost. He only has 7,088 HP at level 88, and I know I HP washed him about 10 times or so back then so that'd mean his HP would be even lower. My UA White Knight, with nothing equipped (and minus card effect/Cassandra HP boost), had 7,495 HP at level 88 and she didn't HP wash at all. That's assuming the following though:

The Card Effect (+1,200 HP) and Cassandra's water event buff (+1,500 HP) are affected by HP Boost, otherwise that'd mean my UA White Knight has even more base HP than my old White Knight from ~2008.

Here's a picture as reference of my UA White Knight:


HP Boosts:
+564 from gear (this was checked by taking off my gear and noticing the difference in my HP)
+1200 from Card Effect (need to confirm if HP Boost affects)
+1500 from Cassandra buff (need to confirm if HP Boost affects)



To compare, here's my naked White Knight (not literally of course)