Had my first Master Yi game ever just now. Went 15/5 and dunked everybody. We lost because of solo q and people not focusing people who need to be focused.. like the fed Teemo.
Try this out, if your on blue team have your solotop and mid clear the wraiths camp and your duo lane clear the golems (This is of course if your jungler doesnt start at those).
If you a red weep because the jungle its a mirror of blue.
Now see if by the time the jungler reaches the wraith camps (Most possibly if he started at blue, or if he went Wolves > Blue but thats kinda pointless) Respawn. If it does then all your lanes will get extra gold/exp while possibly increase the gold/exp for the jungler (The whole thing about monsters rewards increasing by gametime by the time they respawn)
And im saying both solotop and mid to wraiths to clear it faster.
I got down to 2/5ths HP and killed a relic mob.... i got healed for a whole THIRTY hp. oh noes, healing sigil too OP.
I had 800ish max hp by that point fyi.
However, the other point is true... the jungle creeps hit for a lot less. With a normal leash as jungle mumu I went down from needing 4 red pots to only using 2 red pots.
Cool, I just realized I have exactly half the champions (44). I mean, I could buy a 450 (Yi) or a 1350 right now but I don't want any of them at the moment.
Speaking my mind: My opinion on the jungle changes
I had the opportunity to spend at least an hour on custom games testing various routes on some of the junglers that I frequently use in my matches today. (Champs used include Amumu, Cho'Gath, Nocturne at this point in time). As you know, I'm frequently in the jungle for a lot of the matches I play, and for those that played with me in countless games, this is simply an understatement.
This is my opinion on the new jungle.
While Riot had every good intention about what they were trying to get across about the new jungle changes - including having an option of keeping up in levels/gold if lanes are ungankable by any means - I think they overdid this change a bit too much. The jungle creeps feel like weak ****, literally. Josh calling it "wet noodles" was a simple understatement by any means. The gold gain and the EXP gain felt a bit weaksauce. Conducting ganks now become more of a srs business type of deal. If I - lets say - gank on Amumu and don't land that good Q, not only did I **** up big time, I just simply made myself underleveled and underfarmed while attempting this. I could make myself a huge liability to my team by being a underleveled piece of **** for the entire match unless I get lots of successful ganks in. And I have to make 110% of it, or I literally fail outright.
While Riot had said that they did this change so more jungler options could be available for use, I think it did completely opposite of what was intended. The jungling changes meant that junglers who have the capabilities to do fast clears are now at the top of the food chain, and the other junglers who don't have these capabilities are now left in the dust, basically.
Riot has said that they are open for fixing up the jungle if they see that the changes they made are not viable. Here are the possible options they could do:
1) Increase gold gain for certain creeps in certain camps
2) Increase EXP gain in certain camps
3) Revert the entire jungle back to its original form
At this moment though, the jungle changes are having a HUGE impact on the current metagame. Now the 2-1-2 lane setup is starting to become an alternative viable option instead of the previous 1-1-2 + jungler setup.
Now before you dispute me about this, I have a simple request: Go try this out yourself before you say anything. Its one thing to theorize how things will go based on a bunch of words from the patch notes, but its completely different when you go try it out yourself and see what's going on in your own eyes
Hi my name is Lee Sin, I can finally level E and farm for 20 minutes. I'll show up and then pineapple you guys in a teamfight. Thanks for the farmfest jungle Riot~
Hi my name is Lee Sin, I can finally level E and farm for 20 minutes. I'll show up and then pineapple you guys in a teamfight. Thanks for the farmfest jungle Riot~
Im not sure if AFK farm jungle deal will work out. :X
Im not sure if AFK farm jungle deal will work out. :X
Two conditions.
1) You must either clear faster or path faster in such a way that you gain an advantage over their jungler
2) If 1 is not met, their jungler must fail ganks.
Dont see the problem with jungle changes, I managed to clear the whole jungle in the exact same time on Eve and didnt need a pull on blue or to go back before i did red.
just seems like they made everyone do it the same speed as her.
Also, Volibear has too much lane presence. I can stand in lane, and If I've got a Melee or close ranged character on top lane. They're pineappleed due to his powerful skills and their effect. E on slows, W on dps and health bonus, and Q chase and singed toss with Chain R. Dudes a pineapplein' monster. I can't be beaten in lane unless they decide to go douche mode and do double top ;c
Dont see the problem with jungle changes, I managed to clear the whole jungle in the exact same time on Eve and didnt need a pull on blue or to go back before i did red.
just seems like they made everyone do it the same speed as her.
Dont see the problem with jungle changes, I managed to clear the whole jungle in the exact same time on Eve and didnt need a pull on blue or to go back before i did red.
just seems like they made everyone do it the same speed as her.
Clear jungle times was NEVER the problem with the new jungle, its the fact that the Exp and Gold reduction to the monsters that made it a Live or GTFO and Die situation when you attempt a gank, So its either a Successful Gank EVERYSINGLEFRIGGINGTIME (And no, Flash Burning its not an option since if a kill comes from that you are not going to be anywhere near for it most likely) or AFK farm like aynia have been saying several post back.
Clear jungle times was NEVER the problem with the new jungle, its the fact that the Exp and Gold reduction to the monsters that made it a Live or GTFO and Die situation when you attempt a gank, So its either a Successful Gank EVERYSINGLEFRIGGINGTIME (And no, Flash Burning its not an option since if a kill comes from that you are not going to be anywhere near for it most likely) or AFK farm like aynia have been saying several post back.
but i said what i said because eve jungle is considered bad because of how long it apparently takes over other junglers, as well as before the update i could only do blue, wolves wraiths safely and then double golems and back before i could attempt red. If someone caught me at double golems id be dead.
I dont really understand why people are annoyed about it because i never jungle lol.
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