Eos works on logic, not emotion. If people would just give him the chance to show them what he can do for this site, I think they will be very pleased with the outcome. :)Originally Posted by Rick
Eos works on logic, not emotion. If people would just give him the chance to show them what he can do for this site, I think they will be very pleased with the outcome. :)
After resolving a conflict, I like to give it some closure. In the Pits of Hell there have been times when I thought that things were going downhill and got depressed. In the end, I managed to resolve a lot of the issues I posted and I felt that other people would want to know in case they found themselves in a similar situation. I understand that writing the original rant in a blog would allow me to continually update the situation at hand. However, you can't always predict whether or not a problem is going to exclusively be a short-term or a long-term issue.
[Jr. Event Coordinator]
This is exactly how i feel. Also the maple discussion section is starting to have repetitive topics that are already being discussed in another area, example nexon announcements. Its starting to turn out to be basil general maple section. Every little thing goes their even thou it has proper sub sections for the topics.
He's still narrow-minded and selfish with his actions, though.
"Hi, I made a change but if you don't like it I'm not gonna change it, sorry forum."
That's NOT what the forum owner should be about. They should accept criticism (which I've noticed Eos has never done) and if the majority seem another idea fit they should take that into consideration instead of brushing it aside.
This reminds me why I hardly ever visit these forums anymore.
Ok, I agree with Paul on this one because we had a talk about it a few weeks ago. For right now, instead of trying to get rid of necroposting all at once, just exempt forums with the lowest traffic...Expressive Arts, Rubik's Cube, Maple Cinema, Selling Boards, Training Center, Game Mechanics, all forums in Maplers helping Maplers.
Depending on how much of the necroposting is justified this may turn into just as big of a time sink for the mods as handing out infractions.
Overall I think it's a good change. Having options open and infracting those who abuse them is preferred to having no options and no infractions but as long as the mods are available to bump the topic if it's justified I don't think it's a major concern.
That is exactly NOT what's happening. He didn't make this thread to flaunt the new rule and laugh at anyone who doesn't like it -- he's clearly open to and taking suggestions.
Except he denied most of the requests about removing it even though the majority view it as a bad idea & wont budge.
Hellloooo neo-Adura.
And what majority would that be?
The one person who had a thread impacted that was easily resolved?
What are you even talking about? He made this thread because he wants to get rid of necroposting because it's easily avoidable. He wanted suggestions as for what to do. I have no idea where you got the denied part or majority view from. And he's nothing like Adura.
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Fiel has done the same thing in the past if i recall.For example i think it was the "no pron" rule in the fun house? Everyone was against it and fiel hold his ground. Stop being so bitter over eos
A tribute to Ben, may he rest in peace:
Talian, there are many lines of logic. The only reason you subscribe to Eos is because whatever little logic you had in that brain of yours has shriveled up by playing Maple Story profusely. Whereas Eosian lost his social aptitude through the many days of grinding, you appear to have lost the ability to read and think for yourself as an independent being. Again, this could be because you hung around a lot with Eos who most likely ate your brain when you weren't looking. Talian you know what is logical? Having an art thread in the art section. Tallian you know what is illogical? Arguing that a blog is better place for an art thread, rather than placing it in the art section.
Talian, it's great that you can regurgitate 1960 remakes of Eos statements. I can do it as well, "I Am Eos/ I am logical, chronological, and even half robotical/Don't call me maniacal, cause I'll use words like histrionical and ask you to stop throwing hissy fits." Talian, I'm not questioning your particular preference for Eosian's balls. I am simply stating that there are other balls out there for you to take a look at and you shouldn't limit your sycophantic pleasures to only one man. There are a lot of blue balls that need you Talian.
Yes Kaida. Eosian has his arms wide open, ready to hug you and tell you that you're awesome. Kaida, maybe if you actually tried to put yourself in someone else's shoes, you would realize how difficult Eos is being when Throes actually tried to posit an opinion, "Your previous request was... not particularly moving. It's good to see other people waking up and actually participating now but it'd [be] nice to see people focusing on how to make things work best, rather than just complaining about what they don't want." Right Kaida, Eos is being so welcoming. The only thing that is missing from this picture is Eos having a strap-on AK-47 and me being bound and gagged with a blindfold covering my eyes. Eos should just be naked and have his balls flop out and say, "Here Swerve! Come here and suck it!"
The irony with this message is that I'm trying to tell you to look outside of your own pacifistic ego-centrism, "Oh Eos isn't being mean to me! Everything must be dandy!" When the centrism of this message which I purposely excluded, "... exempt the entire forum just for my one thread," is about Eos denying Throes's opinion based on the fact he perceives it to be egotistical and selfish in nature. Kaida, I don't know if you've contributed anything useful to this forum board, but usually posting up art for other people is a service to the community. It would be selfish if Throes kept her art to herself and never shared it with any of us. Or even went to her original art thread and deleted off all her pictures due to Eos being unreasonable. Throes's concern about not being able to concentrate all her updates in one thread is a sign that she cares for the community. Instead of having multiple threads, Throes wants all her art in one place so that it can be easily viewed. I don't know if you are growing up in a Talibanesque regime or if your parents had their genitals cut off and you had to eat them in front of your entire country, but Eos is definitely not "open and friendly" in convential terms.
Rick I have a reason for posting this. I hope that Ben reads this and knows that he isn't alone. He might not log in and read the blog that he posted, so I have to make sure that he gets the message. Not everyone on this forum wants to bend over backwards and when they voice their opinions, they need support. You may not understand this concept, but friends support each other regardless of the consequences. Ben was a great guy and his opinion isn't baseless. It can be distinctly seen through this thread. In addition, Throes got treated pretty poorly in this thread and all she ever wanted was to share her art in the most convenient form possible for the community. I may not have been in love with the guy, but I like Ben. The same thing went with Harrison. Even though both of these guys haven't contributed as much as they used to in the past, they have a distinct flavor that we remember and can recall. In addition, they tried to give something back to the community. In regards to Ben, this is seen through his writings in both blogs and the Shady Tree (yes your 'I just woke up from bed' pictures look cute as well). I stopped coming here because there was no longer a sense of cohesion. The fact that I completely missed the tonality of several previous comments indicates that this forum board is no longer #1 in my priorities list, but that still doesn't mean that I'm going to sit back and watch as the new fad becomes Southperry departures.
Whether or not something is "meaningful" doesn't apply to the fact of organization. If you have a single thread about "Bats" and you have an awesome fact about their wingspan, it doesn't make sense to write a completely new thread about "Bat wingspan" when this comment is better organized under the overall topic of "Bats." If someone was searching for the "Bat" thread, they might miss your thread due to the fact that it would be a small outlier. I have contemplated contributing my own reference posts on basic genetics as everyone can benefit from learning more about science. It doesn't make sense for someone to start a completely new thread on "single nucleotide polymorphisms" alone and many people would ignore it as it doesn't lie in context. The lack of quality in posts is a completely separate issue. Good posts shouldn't try to pull stand-alone acts. Good posts should still function within a thread and help generate better responses in the thread. Everything you post should be worth someone elses time and not just threads alone. If you don't have this mentality, then you are doing a disservice to the community.
Swerve,
First and foremost, was there really a need for such a nasty response for my simple statement? Secondly, don't assume anything. All it does is make you look ignorant. Third, you don't know me, nor do you know anything about me. Take your psychobabble elsewhere. I was merely trying to make some reassuring statements amid all of the negativity. Nothing wrong with throwing a little positive energy out there. I never once bashed anyone's opinion. You can take your miserable attitude an probably your miserable life elsewhere. I'm sure it's not wanted or needed here. Reevaluate your own self before passing judgement on others.
For once could we please make this thread about the intended topic and not about Eos or bashing on Eos' moderation. And Swerve, it's Talia.
You've said that necroposting is the 4th most common infraction, but how much is 4th most? Is it 20% is it 0.0001%? Also, if it's 20% or something, how many infractions are handed out? A large amount or a small amount? 4th most isn't much when 4th most is just 0.0001%. And 20% isn't much when the 100% is just 10.
I rarely ever see necroposting and when it does happen, it's taken care of. As to you automation analogy, Eos, you CAN use the automation, but you also have the option to do the manual work yourself, should that be better suited to what you're doing.
The mods jobs are to moderate, and they should do that. It seems that you're doing a giant thing for such a small problem.
Talia. Even though you criticize me for being nasty, you choose to retaliate by insulting me back. Talia you are right, I don't know anything about you because you don't post anything about yourself. For all I know, you could be the President of the United States, which would still make you an idiot. Even though I am a miserable despicable person, I am happy with who I am and my beliefs. I know that I'm a hypocrite, just like you.
If you really wanted to be civil about this, you would have commented on whether or not you believe Eos was being logical by choosing to prefer blogs over an art subsection for the placement of an art thread. You chose to completely ignore this issue and "get down to my level" by getting personal. You probably believe that your response to my post is filled with more integrity, but the truth is that you have ignored the logical criticism from which I centered my argument regarding Eos. Thus you have ignored the chance to provide a logical response and instead chose to fight me in a bullheaded fashion.
A contradiction arises when you state that you believe in Eos's ability as an administrator and then attempt to exact your own form of personal vengeance instead of trusting the moderators to take me down. It seems like my words and actions are more in line with my beliefs than you are in line with yours.
Thanks for the correction.
HEY YOU GUIS! :B
Can we all for once try to get along when a decision is made? We all sound like a bunch of headless chickens running around trying to find our feathers. Now there are some places on this forum where the 21 day necroposting does become an issue. But if everyone would just calm down, drink some tea, and then say politely what you want to possibly be changed with the rule that Eos has put into place, maybe he'll listen and give his thoughts on the issue rather than everyone just sitting and throwing tantrums. Some of you are acting like Eos has taken charge and is banning people left and right. It also sounds like some people believe that Eos is destroying SP. Have you ever thought that maybe all of this arguing is destroying SP? So why don't we try to get along, weigh the options, and then be polite when we have something to say.
/rant.
As for the issue that this thread has been talking about, I support the 21 day necroposting. Granted, there are some forums where it could be changed, but with a few more tweeks I think it will be better for everyone.
If I don't have an opinion on something, I won't state anything. People making valid arguments as to why one is better than the other is what this thread was created for. Then Eos will be able to make the best decision possible. Me adding in some positive notes to try and be supportive is not wrong. Yes, I insulted you in return and will take my punishments for that. I have no problem owning up to my responsibilities. With change, not everyone will be happy. Doing what is best for the site overall, is the main objective here no matter which way it goes.
Well, what bugs me is that Animus seems to be gangbanging here.
On topic: I don't mind this, since I tend to check dates when posting, but yeah, Throes' gallery, Felix stories, and some other areas of the forum need to get rid of this. Clearly at first sight the General Maplestory and the Nexon Announcements should be under this rule.
I, again, would like to point out also that the 21 is not set in stone. It was a specifically low number that's higher than the current necropost threshold but lower than ideal (which was guessed at 45 days), to try to find where the appropriate average threshold should be and if this is in fact too low.
You're arguing a dead point there, I've already stated which forums were exempted from this during our discussions and unless you're adding new suggestions to that list you're just asking for what you already have.
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