An undiscussed topic about Maker

[Fiel]

I've looked in all of the topics here regarding Maker, and I have not seen anyone post about this, so I thought I would.

You have the ability to upgrade your LQ (Low Quality) gems into MQ or HQ gems.

Maker has three distinct groups for upgrading and appraising: STR/DEX/LUK/WIS crystals, Black/Dark Crystals, and everything else. The probabilities and costs for each group differ slightly. It'd be wise to put these in your calculations when deciding what to appraise or upgrade. Please view the following tables to see these differences.

Tables

Regular Ores	Meso Cost	Requires	Yield
Reg ore -> Appraised	100k	1 ref ore	(70% for 1 LQ) (25% for 1 MQ) (5% for 1 HQ)
LQ -> MQ	300k	10 LQ	(40% for 9 LQ) (60% for 1 MQ)
MQ -> HQ	500k	10 MQ	(70% for 9 MQ) (30% for 1 HQ)

STR/DEX/LUK/WIS Crystal	Meso Cost	Requires	Yield
Reg Cry -> Appraised	100k	1 ref cry	(74% for 1 LQ) (25% for 1 MQ) (1% for 1 HQ)
LQ -> MQ	300k	10 LQ	(40% for 9 LQ) (60% for 1 MQ)
MQ -> HQ	500k	10 MQ	(70% for 9 MQ) (30% for 1 HQ)

Maplestory requires you to have level 2 Maker to appraise and level 3 to upgrade Black/Dark Crystals

Black/Dark Crystal	Meso Cost	Requires	Yield
Reg Cry -> Appraised	150k	1 ref cry	(67.5% for 1 LQ) (30% for 1 MQ) (2.5% for 1 HQ)
LQ -> MQ	450k	10 LQ	(50% for 9 LQ) (50% for 1 MQ)
MQ -> HQ	750k	10 MQ	(75% for 9 MQ) (25% for 1 HQ)

[Stereo]

e: Fixed... >__>___>

Sample size = 1000 refined Dex crystal -> first appraisal // 100,000,000 mesos
740 low grade + 250 mid grade + 10 high grade
First pass low->mid // 22,000,000 mesos
266 low grade + 44 mid grade
Second pass low->mid // 7,800,000 mesos
93 low grade + 15 mid grade
third pass low->mid // 2,700,000 mesos
30 low grade + 5 mid grade
10 + 2
New total:
316 mid + 10 high grade
First pass mid->high // 15,500,000 mesos
199 mid + 9 high grade
Second pass mid->high // 10,000,000 mesos
125 mid + 6 high grade
80 + 4 // 6,000,000 mesos
50 + 3... // 4,000,000 mesos
End result: 1000 dex crystals + 175,000,000 mesos = 35 high grade. Average cost: 28 crystals + 5000000 mesos.

[Fiel]

wat

You don't lose 9 MQ. If you FAIL to upgrade to HQ, you get 9 back from the original 10 you put in. Overall loss would be 500k and 1 MQ. Mah bad.

[Stereo]

But you said if it fails for the rare crystals you get back 1 MQ, not 9... o.o

[KajitiSouls]

Something else that would be nice to mention is that getting HG Crystals from the initial appraisal has a 1% chance or something ridiculously low.

For regular jewels, this is 5% instead.

[GameMX]

Is it worth upgrading the Gems? I mean, apparently Diamond is expensive in KMS because of this system. Would upgrading LQ into HQ be worth it?

Basically it's gonna be 100 LQ Gems for 1 HQ Gem, and you might get screwed out sometimes looking at the chart.

[KajitiSouls]

Hmm.

Even though you can upgrade LQ gems, you can still inspect Gems and result straight as a MQ or HQ?

Yes.

[Fiel]

Something else that would be nice to mention is that getting HG Crystals from the initial appraisal has a 1% chance or something ridiculously low.

For regular jewels, this is 5% instead.

I did mention that... ;_;

[GameMX]

Yes.

Yeah, I misread and changed the question.

[KajitiSouls]

I did mention that... ;_;

Whoops, missed it xD All I saw were the numbers for upgrading between quality types, since that was the stuff I was interested inxD

[Noah]

So you appraise ores instead of actual jewels or plates? I'm pretty confident you actually use jewels, by the look of your signature.

[Fiel]

So you appraise ores instead of actual jewels or plates? I'm pretty confident you actually use jewels, by the look of your signature.

jewels, plates, crystals... whatever. They all get appraised in the refined form.

[KajitiSouls]

Appraise plates...?

[Dusk]

Appraise plates...?

You don't upgrade plates, you just use them for certain items. Plates don't add stats, but they're part of the recipes to forge items. For example, you need 4 Adamantium plates to forge most level 100 weapons.

Jewels and crystals actually have different grades and act as 100% scrolls for the "extra slots" you get when you forge an item.

[ItzTaylor]

How much do Diamonds go for in KMS?

You would think Black Crystals would be more then them right?

Upgrading... hmm o.O

I thought you got a random quality. I didn't know you had to use 10 of one quality to get a higher one.

[Noah]

jewels, plates, crystals... whatever. They all get appraised in the refined form.

Okay, thanks.

Assuming you want HQ-jewels, and have 100 diamonds, you may expect the following amount of meso loss and quality-stones.

LQ	MQ	HQ	Meso-usage
4.8	5.4	7.1	15.1 mill

If you're more into it like Fiel, you may expect these values (4377 jewels):

LQ	MQ	HQ	Meso-usage
4.8	5.4	330.4	693 mill

Looks like this will drain out the mesos in every world, heh.

[Cyanne]

Did maplesea get the crystal upgrading system right away? The system came to kMS like months and months after the initial release.

[ZakumSlaYers]

Did maplesea get the crystal upgrading system right away? The system came to kMS like months and months after the initial release.

Yes, there is..

[Cyanne]

Oh cool, and I'm guessing you got equipment dismantling along with it?

[ZakumSlaYers]

Oh cool, and I'm guessing you got equipment dismantling along with it?

Yeah, everything that KMS has :zzz: