[Game Over] Bad Apple Mafia - Mafia Victory

[VerrKol]

[Vote]: @Olsi; because he's reluctant to lynch.

[Olsi]

[Vote]: Olsi; because he's reluctant to lynch.

Hilarious. I'm just trying to use some logic.

[z0mgc00k13]

Please unbolden your first vote. Nothing really happened though, so I'll refrain for voting until later.

[Words]

I see Holypie's point, but there is just too much that can go wrong if we lynch at random. Although, I can see going for those who are not so active. We have some time before the day ends, so there some time before we decide what to do.

Voting randomly to get people to talk, or looking for reactions, doesn't mean they're going to get lynched, unless there's an obvious tell that makes the decision easy. Regardless, I do agree that going on with a lynch is too risky when there's no actual info yet and there aren't any tells yet. I'm guessing we can't get info until tomorrow but if someone looks like scum too much and too obviously I'll change my vote.

[CakesXD]

pineapple NO LYNCHES.

vote CakesXD BECAUSE CAKES SOMETIMES HAVE BAD APPLES ON THEM.

I've never seen a cake with apples on it.

Anyway, nothing of interest has happened yet. I'll save my vote until the end of the day.

[VerrKol]

I've never seen a cake with apples on it.

Anyway, nothing of interest has happened yet. I'll save my vote until the end of the day.

Two words: Fruit cakes

[TheBirds]

Oi oi sounds like a party to me, parties always attract the best and worst people after all

For some reason I read parties as panties and I was like, waaaat?

[KhainiWest]

For some reason I read parties as panties and I was like, waaaat?

Sounds like a much better party

[Holypie]

I see Holypie's point, but there is just too much that can go wrong if we lynch at random. Although, I can see going for those who are not so active. We have some time before the day ends, so there some time before we decide what to do.

Yes, but the risk of killing a villager is outweighed by the potential to nab a mafia member. And I'm not saying to lynch at random, I'm just urging the rest of the village not to sit idly by while these bad apples pick us off one by one.

[xBTAx]

I'm not sure how I feel about random lynching right away; Holy's right in that it does have its advantages but beyond just the chance of lynching a villager, I'm worried that it could be relatively harder to determine which lynches are truly random and which are mafia strategy...

I think regardless, given how last game want, this game is going to be played a lot more aggressively across the board, so maybe we should just start with that as well.

[y0y0y0y0shi0]

[vote] Verrkol
Vegetables and fruit (especially apples) are important parts of nutritious meals, and I don't agree with your votes.

And why exactly is being opposed to a no lynch a bad thing?

Edit: pomegranate okay so apparently when i refreshed the thread none of the new posts appeared. The last thing I saw before I made this post was Olsi's before MetaSeraphim's.

The advantages of day 1 lynches extremely outweigh the disadvantages.
In my opinion it's much more advantageous to get an early lynch in, for a few reasons:
-Early reads are often some of the strongest.
-Day 1 lynches give you an ability to analyze the prior day's wagons, instead of wasting day 2 with what could've been done on day 1
-Lynches are obviously the town's strongest, and sometimes only, weapons against the mafia. Passing up an opportunity to lynch someone is counterintuitive to the goals of the town

Even if the lynches are random, it gives you SOMETHING to go on, instead of waiting around twiddling your thumbs until you find something to do/say.
It gives you some idea of the motives of each player, who they would like to target, etc.

For example, here we have a dichotomy between those who favor no lynches and those who don't. That in itself is important information.

[Olsi]

Quick note however that @Sega; still hasnt said anything. You alive bud?

I dont disagree with early lynching in and of itself @VerrKol; however I think its weird that LuvDWayULie voted no lynch then voted for someone who said no lynch for voting no lynch

[Corn]

vote Sega BECAUSE APPLES CAN'T TALK AND HE HASN'T TALKED YET.

[Niernen]

Changing my vote to:

[Vote] Niernen because he opposed the No Lynch. I might change again though, I might.

I was not opposed to No Lynch, I was opposed to people jumping to no lynch without any discussion. First three posts were all just people saying no lynch and not much else. Heck, you had the first post and you said nothing. There was no reason to vote already with the first post. I'll [Vote]LuvDWayULie because your first post was only saying no lynch, and then when I pointed out we should get a discussion going before just jumping to no lynch you decided to vote for me.

[Shidoshi]

[Vote] Holypie

You think voting and lynching on Day 1 is pretty nice, but you refrain from giving your opinion about who's suspicious by voting. Town has no reason to hide information or intuitions.
Also, curse you for stealing my own words from talks we had after the last game!

(tomorrow is Valentine's Day in Brazil, so I shouldn't be able to come around here much)

[LuvDWayULie]

I was not opposed to No Lynch, I was opposed to people jumping to no lynch without any discussion. First three posts were all just people saying no lynch and not much else. Heck, you had the first post and you said nothing. There was no reason to vote already with the first post. I'll [Vote]LuvDWayULie because your first post was only saying no lynch, and then when I pointed out we should get a discussion going before just jumping to no lynch you decided to vote for me.

I was only trying to start things up :)

Up to you if you wanna vote for me.

[Vote] Holypie Changed again. Shidoshi has a point.

[LuvDWayULie]

Quick note however that Sega; still hasnt said anything. You alive bud?

I dont disagree with early lynching in and of itself VerrKol; however I think its weird that LuvDWayULie voted no lynch then voted for someone who said no lynch for voting no lynch

Tbh, new player here. Going with the majority, which now I have changed again.

[Holypie]

[Vote] Holypie

You think voting and lynching on Day 1 is pretty nice, but you refrain from giving your opinion about who's suspicious by voting. Town has no reason to hide information or intuitions.
Also, curse you for stealing my own words from talks we had after the last game!

(tomorrow is Valentine's Day in Brazil, so I shouldn't be able to come around here much)

We have until Friday to make a decision, no need to jump the gun. I said I was against no lynching (because you did have a good point about it) but at the moment I wasn't suspicious enough of anyone to vote for them. I don't really like throwing around votes like they're nothing, like some people here seem to be doing. I think LuvDWayULie is being a bit overeager right now, flipping votes every couple of posts. And I'd like to hear from @Sega, but aside from that I don't have many reads right now. My early game scumhunting isn't great.

[Polantaris]

Town has no reason to hide information or intuitions.

To be fair, your point is technically true, but technically it can also get you killed.

If you provide too many valuable insights on even one person in one day, it's likely you'll get slaughtered early on by night kills. Being too good of a player will also get you killed. Can't forget that the Bad Apples are out there, and they see everything too.

That being said I kind of agree with the conclusion about Holypie, but I'm not going to vote for him just yet. I'm curious towards multiple people and I want to see more before I go voting.

[Shidoshi]

That doesn't happen if all players do that, no one is a target if everyone is a target. Else we will all be silent and it will suck.

Forcing people to participate is how you'll have the mafia making misteps. It's easy to hide among the innocent silent and look the same as them.