[Game Over] Bad Apple Mafia - Mafia Victory

[xBTAx]

I'm still catching up and won't be able to do it properly for another couple hours, but after skimming:

Removing my vote from Khaini, unless someone comes along to counter claim doctor which I think is unlikely.

This leaves us with TheBirds, LuvDWayULie, ChaoticCJ and CakesXD in my book. Holypie I think should be left for tomorrow to reassert.
For now I'll lead off with:
[Vote] ChaoticCJ

...if you're not trusting Holy's results, wouldn't you trust Kyrastri's, which makes CJ innocent? Or did I not see the thought behind this in earlier posts?

FINALLY CAUGHT UP.
A) wtp KHAINIWEST I'M RAGING THAT YOU REVEALED YOURSELF I KNEW IT FROM THE START OF DAY 2 YOU WERE DOCTOR YOU PINEAPPLEING MORON.
B) FOR THE EVENTS LAST NIGHT I believe Verrkol shot MetaSeraphim because he was fairly scummy, but Verrkol also got killed by the Mafia. I’m pretty sure Mafia only have one night kill. I doubt there's a third party, otherwise there would have been two kills on Night 1.
C) 80% sure there is only one Sheriff and 75% sure Holypie is the Mafia. I was going to vote him off now but I can wait a day because
D) vote TheBirds because clearly he wants to be lynched for whatever reason.
E) wtp guys there's literally only one cop there's no reason to have more than one cop on this setup.

MY MOST INNOCENT LIST:
CORN (because I know my role)
OLSI
KHAINIWEST

MY MOST GUILTY LIST IF HOLYPIE IS MAFIA (75% IMO)
HOLYPIE
CHAOTICCJ

MY MOST GUILTY LIST IF KYRASTRI IS MAFIA
KYRASTRI
LUVDWAYULIE

VerrKol could not have shot Meta because he was powerless as soon as Words was lynched. Furthermore, like I said, I saw two people watching Olsi last night (and specifically only watching). I don't know if they are necessarily both cops but they are definitely both roles that do watching, so take from that what you will. I'd say that yeah, Holy's more suspicious here but currently I'm trusting both of them.

[Shidoshi]

Kyra himself admitted that his read on CJ was most likely inconclusive with respect to his alignment.

[Niernen]

B) FOR THE EVENTS LAST NIGHT I believe Verrkol shot MetaSeraphim because he was fairly scummy, but Verrkol also got killed by the Mafia. I’m pretty sure Mafia only have one night kill. I doubt there's a third party, otherwise there would have been two kills on Night 1.

Read Verrkol's action again. He can't do anything if we get a mafia, he has to act first. We lynched a mafia, so Verrkol could not use his action.

Also, the first day and apple was lynched, and the way it was carried out was through a crow. This leads me to belive there is some possible killing action similar to Verrkol's that can kill anyone because he was "eaten". Apples can't eat other apples (can they?), so possibly a one time kill action too. So its possible that a townapple found him suspicious and killed him, or some other strange role.

It also seems some powers only activate on or after certain days.

@TheBirds; What did day three have to do with voting for yourself? Why didn't you do it earlier?

[MasPan]

Please have it be noted that a self-destructing ragequit is cause to be blacklisted from any further mafia games hosted by me, and recommendation to be blacklisted from mafia games on SP entirely. It's immature, childish, egotistical, and spoils the game for others. And I will not tolerate it.

[Shidoshi]

Agreed. Self-voting can be strategical, but if you only want to be out of the game you should seek out to be substituted otherwise it's disrespectful to the other players' and the mod's effort in making a fun game.

[faonkarino]

I don't suppose someone could make a vote tallying?

[TheBirds]

Read Verrkol's action again. He can't do anything if we get a mafia, he has to act first. We lynched a mafia, so Verrkol could not use his action. Also, the first day and apple was lynched, and the way it was carried out was through a crow. This leads me to belive there is some possible killing action similar to Verrkol's that can kill anyone because he was "eaten". Apples can't eat other apples (can they?), so possibly a one time kill action too. So its possible that a townapple found him suspicious and killed him, or some other strange role. It also seems some powers only activate on or after certain days. TheBirds; What did day three have to do with voting for yourself? Why didn't you do it earlier?

If I die today something awesome happens. That is all you need to know.

Please have it be noted that a self-destructing ragequit is cause to be blacklisted from any further mafia games hosted by me, and recommendation to be blacklisted from mafia games on SP entirely. It's immature, childish, egotistical, and spoils the game for others. And I will not tolerate it.

Agreed completely.

[Shidoshi]

Awesome for who? Why couldn't you explain it, if it's good for the town we have majority either way to make it happen.

[Niernen]

If I die today something awesome happens. That is all you need to know.

Well then [Vote]@TheBirds;. Lets see what comes of this.

[Kyrastri]

Awesome for who? Why couldn't you explain it, if it's good for the town we have majority either way to make it happen.

If they havent said it upfront, they're likely trying to kill themselves to win. Not sure why they wouldn't have done this earlier, however.

edit: I have been reading, however I'm trying to catch up on work so I probably won't post a lot until I get home.

[Niernen]

If they havent said it upfront, they're likely trying to kill themselves to win. Not sure why they wouldn't have done this earlier, however.

They specifically mentioned day 3. Some of the other powers also seemed time or situation based.

[KhainiWest]

@TheBirds; would me saving you block your ability? I guess either way I'm going to find out since there's no one else to save.

[Shidoshi]

TheBirds; would me saving you block your ability? I guess either way I'm going to find out since there's no one else to save.

You can't save people from lynches, there are no "Day Doctors".

[KhainiWest]

You can't save people from lynches, there are no "Day Doctors".

My role reads differently but it doesn't matter, if his power is worth something and mafia isn't aware of it, they are going to (ifsmart) kill him off to be safe rather than sorry.

Considering how obvious Mafia hs been making moves, I'm 100% certain Luvdwayulie or whatever the f`uck his name is, in fact mafia.

[LuvDWayULie]

My role reads differently but it doesn't matter, if his power is worth something and mafia isn't aware of it, they are going to (ifsmart) kill him off to be safe rather than sorry.

Considering how obvious Mafia hs been making moves, I'm 100% certain Luvdwayulie or whatever the f`uck his name is, in fact mafia.

If you really think that I'm the mafia, go on, vote for me!

But I'm assuring you, I'm not the mafia. I'm just a townie. Why do you have to believe me? If I were the mafia, I would have killed you instead in the first few days, which brings me to you now. I don't think you're the doctor. Even if you are, your powers aren't helping the town when you are just criticizing about everything!

To me, I do not mind if I'm dead. What I care about is the safety of all apples.

And please, STOP using vulgarities. It just shows how a failed character you are in my opinion.


Edit: Believe it or not, I have never lied ever since the start of the game. Up to you to believe in this. The cops can always check on me :)

[Holypie]

Oh my god are people actually voting for TheBirds? What the hell guys?

And why does everyone think I'm so suspicious? Give me a chance to get more information (though I doubt it'll convince any of you because mafia knows townies, or bussing, or whatever) at least.

And what the hell I'm going to [vote] ChaoticCJ again because he seems sketchy and Kyrastri's information on him means nothing as far as we know. What I'm kind of confused about is why the hell does Kyrastri get different information in different nights? First night she gets that CJ is a green apple whoop dee doo, and the next night she gets legitimate alignment information? I don't know about you guys but that's a bit strange. Not necessarily saying that she's suspicious (that's really silly to be a mafia and claim flavour cop against a cop claim) but it's something to note.

[Corn]

You can't save people from lynches, there are no "Day Doctors".

My role reads differently but it doesn't matter, if his power is worth something and mafia isn't aware of it, they are going to (ifsmart) kill him off to be safe rather than sorry.

Considering how obvious Mafia hs been making moves, I'm 100% certain Luvdwayulie or whatever the f`uck his name is, in fact mafia.

Well, you're jumping up a lot on my suspicions list.

[Polantaris]

If I die today something awesome happens. That is all you need to know.

Can you give us ANYTHING to make us believe that this "something awesome" is something that will actually benefit the town? Really, "something awesome happens" is not all we need to know. You have nothing to fear during the day, so there's no reason not to tell us what it is. If we agree with you, we'll lynch you. You have to give us something.

Anyone who goes against a positive lynch effect is going to be clearly mafia, so no one will dispute a positive effect, so if your effect is positive, there's no reason at all to conceal it.

[faonkarino]

Despite all the madness that's happening, I'll stand my vote.

[ChaoticCJ]

Well there has been some activity, so my reaction may take a while. Just some initial thoughts:

KhainiWest claiming doctor then claiming...something else is a bit curious. I am with LuvDWayULie and going to say that he isn't the doctor, although that doesn't mean he isn't town.

I am curious about TheBirds...I am tempted to vote for TheBirds, because it could be a plan to buy time for another day...my biggest fear is that we are eventually going to have to deal with him and he may get more powerful the more days we ignore him.


To the votes on me just consider this quote:

Killing y0y0y0y0shi0 seems like two birds with one stone for the mafia. Off an active player and incriminate ChaoticCJ. I don't want to write off suspicion on CJ just yet, but I think there are others that should take the fall first.

Both Holypie and Olsi had the same thoughts. This was before Kyrastri had somewhat cleared me. I still stand by my vote for Sega, as he was not active. Shidoshi also could have voted for Words, Niernen, Polantaris, yoshi(before death), no lynch or no vote-but didn't and voted for me even though it was "Not necessarily gonna make a whole lot of difference." I stand by my assumption that Shidoshi could have had a double vote(something no one has denied and given the amount of abilities for the town it wouldn't surprise me). This is probably the only defense I can offer and that there are others who seem more suspicious.

Just a note: I am just pointing out my facts and assumptions and am not pointing suspicion at anyone right now.

I am still reading through, so those are just some initial thoughts.