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    ~Updates~

    Buccaneer is 189, i hope to get it to 200 this week

    Next character im leveling to 200 is cannon shooter, which is good because the revamp is around the corner, hopefully ill have some base to compare pre and after

    Side News: I managed to get more all class tradable % str, ill have to count how much more, but ill edit post when im done

    its 179% str now
    Last edited by KillerZero; 2014-03-24 at 09:00 PM.

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    ~updates~

    Buccaneeer is 200, 1 more down

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    Canonshooter is 182 and i have spring break this week, i will try my best to level him to 200

    Also i managed to get a sweet water demon avenger weapon, so he has been added to the list

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    Characters to go: Mihile(170), Dawn Warrior(165), Thunder Breaker(160),Demon Avenger(123),possibly Xenon(168), Eunwol(when it comes out, any current project will be dumped unless extremely close to 200, for this), then Kaiser(120)

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    Not sure which character to do after i finish canonshooter, if any of you have any suggestions that would be taken, but im sorta leaning to kaiser a bit to just get it out of the way

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    Very cool idea! Looking forward to seeing how this turns out :D

    When I have a little more free time I should be able to do this for Thief classes, there are significantly fewer thieves than warriors though.. and my Xenon is at a bit of an advantage since it extra AP. I have everything at level 200 already though.
    @Marksman Bryan; Archers plz.

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    The way i was thinking of doing any comparisons would be:

    Do a video for each Adventurer warrior, and talk about strength and weakness, and game play style for each

    Do a video for Bucc/TB/Eunwol/CS/(maybe xenon in here) each, and strength/weakness, which is better for x game play style

    Do a video about DW/Mihile and talk about strength and weaknesses

    Video about DS/DA each(or maybe a double char episode), talk about strength and weaknesses, and compare and contrast a bit, since i often see in maple people asking which to play

    then do a video for Aran/Zero/Hayato each (since people tend to say there very similiar) talk about the combos, and what kind of gameplay to expect, and compare and contrast a bit

    Then lastly a video for Kaiser and insert new warrior type to come out in future

  5. Nuclear testing facility Straight Male
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    If RLH came back, I'd consider finishing off my Mercedes (17X) and have 4/4 to do this but I'd don't really see the point. We already have working (good approximations) damage calculators and DPS calcs (BMs are blatantly still broken though) so anyone could do the math if they wanted.

    The vids might be mildly interesting, but every class scales differently depending on specific potential stats and funding levels.

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    the 145% str has been bumped up even higher because i got more tradable % str, but im trying to say that i will try to keep as much as i physically can keep the same between characters exactly the same.

    The only differences will really be, is that Zero since cant wear my tradable top/bottom will be missing some % str, but i think i got a % str overall that he can wear now to try to migitate some of that.

    Pirates cant wear the same top that my warriors do, but they can wear the same bottom, so all pirates comparisons will be with same % str

    All warrior comparisons minus Zero and Demon avenger(although i might be able to get the same exact amount of % hp as i have in % str, so maybe) will have same % str, same base weapon non scrolled, same 2ndary, non cubed, same link skills same character cards.

    So the funding will be exactly the same on all characters. If its all the same to the most part, we can make more accurate comparisons of each class against one another. I don't think anyone has actually done a FULL scale comparison like this on maple, like actually done it the way i am attempting to do.

  7. Nuclear testing facility Straight Male
    IGN: VerrKol
    Server: Zenith
    Level: 204
    Job: Bowmaster
    Guild: LegacyReborn
    Farm: Kolville
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    You missed my point. I know you're using the same or nearly the same equipment for each. My point is the comparison doesn't give much relevant data to maplers unless they happen to be using equips very similar to yours. People are going to look at your videos and say, "omg Heros OP" (or whatever class) because they are much stronger at your funding level. This kind of extrapolation and generalization is extremely misleading. Each class has a unique power curve depending on funding and even specific potential stats like att vs td vs str because of the way their skills function.

    I'm not actually trying to discourage you, but I think you're overestimating the usefulness of this comparison. It would be more interesting if you used ~3 sets of equips to represent different power lvls. Something like clean sw, +5att perfect weapons and %str gear, then ridiculous funding with perfect weapon + Tyrant + CRA but obviously the PSOKs alone make that unreasonable given the sheer number of warriors /* WHY ARE THERE SO MANY AND SO FEW ARCHERS */ . On the plus side, I'm pretty sure you're right that this will be a unique endeavor and I applaud your ambition.

    I don't know anything about warriors, but I know exactly how misleading it would be for archers. Mercedes would be dead last (unless the BM dcs lol) using low funding equips with MM destroying everyone. You get a completely different damage order with high funding with MM, WA, and Merc being reasonably close depending on the scenario. Now that I think about it, if I were incredibly bored I could actually graph power curves for archers using our range calculators and JT's dps calcs, but that's a pipe dream given my schedule and complete lack of motivation.

    EDIT: I completely forgot WH exist lmfao. Good thing no one plays those antiquated contraptions.

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    @VerrKol

    I think the fact that they are so many str users warrant this for the most part, i have an idea now for the videos and how i will go about structuring the videos. Thank you for the ideas. Also the reason i wanted to do the full comparisons, well was because there are so many str users, and i and i am pretty sure a couple of others, have wondered, if i had the same gear on x character, how would the damage be, would it be worth it, would i gain anything/lose, would my endevour be pointless, would i enjoy the game play. Im hoping these videos can help answer a bit of these questions. And now with some of the ideas you have given me, i hope i will be able to help the people who are considering changing to a different character and are trying to recycle gear.~especially if they are warriors, because you can recycle almost everything, including weapons sometimes.

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    Canonshooter is 198, it should hopefully reach 200 before the end of this week
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    Which character should i level to 200 next?
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    Once canonshooter is 200, i have a few chars left to do(that use % str), mainly DW, Mihile, Kaiser,xenon and thunder breaker. I have no idea at the moment which character i want to level. Part of me wants to finish the pirates off, and just do xenon/thunder breaker, so i can have all the strength using pirates done(until eunwol comes out) then continue on with Mihile, DW, then kaiser.
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    Another part of me wants to do Demon Avenger/Kaiser next, since there characters id like to have an SS card for already,(demon avenger is already in my deck but at S rank)

  10. Orbital Bee Cannon
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    Server: Kradia
    Level: 275
    Job: Hero
    Guild: Matriarchy
    Alliance: Peaceful

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    I'd do Xenon last, since calling it a %STR pirate is a bit of a stretch. Dressing it up in %STR gear is not the most effective use of whatever funding level you're testing.

    Other than that, doing them by order of usefulness (character card) sounds good.

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    updates
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    canon shooter is 200
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    Next character to 200 is demon avenger

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    Demon Avenger is 175, and i got to say, now that i have some gear for him, im actually really liking demon avenger. He is a very underated class from what i hear on people opinion about him, but i think hes a solid class. Looking forward to getting those last 25 levels :D
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    Next class i think will probably be kaiser, or i might take time to do a side project that ive been neglecting to do(its my mechanic for character card, been meaning to get him to 200)

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    Demon Avenger is 192, i hope to get to 200 this week :D
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    I think i will get kaiser to 200 next

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    Demon Avenger is now 200. That was fun :D
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    Next character is kaiser, here we go

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    updates
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    Finals are overrrrr, more time to train, Kaiser is 147, along the kaiser, im training a kannna to help with Hoh purposes for when i cant find a kanna so the training is a bit slower, since im training them togetherrr. But once the kanna is 160 the Kaiser level should rocket along(kanna is 148)
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    As a side note, im using RLH to level the other characters than i still have on the list mainly: TB/DW/Mihile/Xenon so that they can get a few levels while i train kaiser :D
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    As another side note, im including eunwol for this when he is released, and the current project of w.e is getting to 200 will be put on hold till Eunwol is at least 160(im going for 200 fast(that SS card <3)) unless that character is super close to 200

  16. Peanuts
    IGN: BaconSkewers
    Server: Bera
    Level: 210
    Job: Dark Knight
    Guild: Acrylic
    Alliance: Honour

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    You're taking too long, I don't have patience.

  17. Brick Male
    IGN: ZeroCA
    Server: Windia
    Level: 21x
    Job: Zero
    Guild: EssentiaI
    Alliance: N/A
    Farm: ReneMule
    usa

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    I hope you're joking.

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    Says that, gets 3 characters to 200 before bacon gets 1 :P

    Also the kanna is almost 160!, its 155 atm, so that means i can start speeding up training the kaiserrr

  19. Brick Male
    IGN: ZeroCA
    Server: Windia
    Level: 21x
    Job: Zero
    Guild: EssentiaI
    Alliance: N/A
    Farm: ReneMule
    usa

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    Training kaisers is THE most boring shyt ever. I commend you.

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    Updates
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    Kanna and Kaiser both 160, got some people to come train tomorrow at SH, so hopefully get them both to 170 during tomorrows 2x, and once i start HoH i can finish the kaiser fast since i no longer have to train the kanna as well once its 170
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    Also, kaisers so boring q.q

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