[KMST] KMST 1.2.437 - Black Mage

[Arrol]

Every new class is OP, so being OP is the new standard of game balance. It's just that most of the older classes are far too weak, so those playing them are simply biased.

Umm, Pirates and V.1 Battle Mages/Wild Hunters?

[Devil]

Nexon "nerfing" so called OP classes that hit 999.999's all the time

Result: so called OP classes still hit 999.999's all the time...

Excellent work! High Five! :')

[Question]

hmmm if black mage will be a boss he will be repeatable just like pb zak ht

i can see it already how it work.... the blackmage cant be beat but it can be seal ...
to seal him he must be down to 1% hp and all the other char must stand or use some kind of trick to seal him away if they attack him on 1% hp he will fully heal to full heath... then when he seal it end. but wait..... later the blackwing saw that and release the seal again and you the heros gotta seal up the blackmage again just like zak / ht / pb

[Sewil]

hmmm if black mage will be a boss he will be repeatable just like pb zak ht

i can see it already how it work.... the blackmage cant be beat but it can be seal ...
to seal him he must be down to 1% hp and all the other char must stand or use some kind of trick to seal him away if they attack him on 1% hp he will fully heal to full heath... then when he seal it end. but wait..... later the blackwing saw that and release the seal again and you the heros gotta seal up the blackmage again just like zak / ht / pb

this isnt WoW
also, pb isn't killed, it's warping in to another dimension.
Zakum isn't killed, the statue that the SPIRIT of Zakum created is destroyed.
Arkarium is neither killed, he is also warping in to another dimension.
Von Leon is just defeated, seen panting at his defeat, he's not killed.
Papulatus is killed.
Pianus is killed.
Horntail is killed.
Cygnus is not killed, she too, divides herself and warps in to another dimension.

[Question]

this isnt WoW
also, pb isn't killed, it's warping in to another dimension.
Zakum isn't killed, the statue that the SPIRIT of Zakum created is destroyed.
Arkarium is neither killed, he is also warping in to another dimension.
Von Leon is just defeated, seen panting at his defeat, he's not killed.
Papulatus is killed.
Pianus is killed.
Horntail is killed.
Cygnus is not killed, she too, divides herself and warps in to another dimension.

wtp pap cant be kill cuz i got a repeatable quest said pap counter attack LOL?
ht cant be kill either cuz i can keep summon him too ?
pianus why does he keep appearing?
Cygnus is not real it just a dream

[Dark Link]

This is a FANTASY game! Who the hell cares. This argument is stupid.

[DarkForgeJ]

hmmm if black mage will be a boss he will be repeatable just like pb zak ht

i can see it already how it work.... the blackmage cant be beat but it can be seal ...
to seal him he must be down to 1% hp and all the other char must stand or use some kind of trick to seal him away if they attack him on 1% hp he will fully heal to full heath... then when he seal it end. but wait..... later the blackwing saw that and release the seal again and you the heros gotta seal up the blackmage again just like zak / ht / pb

I am expecting a laaarge pq before fighthing him(like ht) and whit the requeriments of 1 character of each class... lol

[anondesu9000]

I am expecting a laaarge pq before fighthing him(like ht) and whit the requeriments of 1 character of each class... lol

No. Restriction based class discrimination is horrible. It's nothing more than class warfare.

[Dark Link]

No. Restriction based class discrimination is horrible. It's nothing more than class warfare.

But, CWKPQ :(

[anondesu9000]

But, CWKPQ :(

Exactly.

[DarkForgeJ]

No. Restriction based class discrimination is horrible. It's nothing more than class warfare.

I am pretty sure that it's going to be neccesary atleast 1 of each hero...

[JoeTang]

wtp pap cant be kill cuz i got a repeatable quest said pap counter attack LOL?
ht cant be kill either cuz i can keep summon him too ?
pianus why does he keep appearing?
Cygnus is not real it just a dream

I like how the edit reason is "typo".

[anondesu9000]

I am pretty sure that it's going to be neccesary atleast 1 of each hero...

Which would exclude the majority of the classes, most of which aren't heroes, and deny them the opportunity to enjoy the new content if they don't have or can't find almost a full party of each hero, 2-3 of which are limited time characters. Which makes it even more exclusionary. Maybe if Nexon stopped removing classes from the game, but until then, no.

Although, that does sound like the kind of plantain move Nexon would think is the greatest idea ever.

[DarkForgeJ]

Which would exclude the majority of the classes, most of which aren't heroes, and deny them the opportunity to enjoy the new content if they don't have or can't find almost a full party of each hero, 2-3 of which are limited time characters. Which makes it even more exclusionary. Maybe if Nexon stopped removing classes from the game, but until then, no.

Although, that does sound like the kind of plantain move Nexon would think is the greatest idea ever.

In theory it would be good to need 1 of each hero and why not 1 of each class, people would need of every class(including the more "useless" and almost extincted classes) making them neccesary

[anondesu9000]

In theory it would be good to need 1 of each hero and why not 1 of each class, people would need of every class(including the more "useless" and almost extincted classes) making them neccesary

Theory doesn't translate well into reality if it's not founded on logic or experimentation.

In GMS, not only is it hard to find characters of different classes for PQs, it's hard to find people to PQ with at all.

Now exacerbate that problem tenfold by requiring 1 of each of a multitude of classes, of which there are 30+ total, some of which are time limited, and those almost extinct classes, rather than becoming useful, will in practice only deter players from enjoying that new content.

If a PQ doesn't have a solo option, especially if party play requires more than just another person, then in the new age of grinding over PQing, it will ultimately fail for not taking into account the new realities of MapleStory.

Then again, KMS may not have this problem while Nexon America just doesn't seem to care about it.

Suffice it to say, novelty and "coolness" don't exactly decide the worth of new content. It's all a matter of incentive and availability.

[DarkForgeJ]

Theory doesn't translate well into reality if it's not founded on logic or experimentation.

In GMS, not only is it hard to find characters of different classes for PQs, it's hard to find people to PQ with at all.

Now exacerbate that problem tenfold by requiring 1 of each of a multitude of classes, of which there are 30+ total, some of which are time limited, and those almost extinct classes, rather than becoming useful, will in practice only deter players from enjoying that new content.

If a PQ doesn't have a solo option, especially if party play requires more than just another person, then in the new age of grinding over PQing, it will ultimately fail for not taking into account the new realities of MapleStory.

Then again, KMS may not have this problem while Nexon America just doesn't seem to care about it.

Suffice it to say, novelty and "coolness" don't exactly decide the worth of new content. It's all a matter of incentive and availability.

Just remember this could be not another pq like the others, is THE PQ FOR BLACK MAGE, and the level requirement its going to be probably 200... and also i dont think you could solo black mage... at least legit... empress is pretty hard and is just a dream

[Dark Link]

Exactly.

I mean people love CWKPQ, so saying a class restriction PQ is horrible is a bit asinine.

[Arrol]

Just saying incase no one knew, Empress Equipment is now statless too.

[Dark Link]

Just saying incase no one knew, Empress Equipment is now statless too.

Not really surprised that the "Encourage 2ndary stat" plan backfired.

[Thorr]

Since all equipment is now secondary statless, I hope they fix the Auto-Assign for SP to be secondary statless.