So, i think we are way more than 5 people with a beta on SP now, would anyone be up for a five-man premade in match-making? I would give tips and help you out if someone is unsure, anybody is welcome :)
Also:
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So, i think we are way more than 5 people with a beta on SP now, would anyone be up for a five-man premade in match-making? I would give tips and help you out if someone is unsure, anybody is welcome :)
Also:
http://i40.tinypic.com/2i0k8p.png
I WAS INVITED!!! IDK WHEN OR WHY, BUT I JUST GOT THE INVITE! GRAWWWQuote:
Originally Posted by Unleashing
Guess who's back:
http://media.steampowered.com/apps/d...splash_big.jpg
Also changelog:
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I'll stay away from all pick till shadow demon has lost his hype, i'd like to not face him mid in all games x_x
Most DotA mechanics scare the piss out of me, to be frank.
Which? Just list some and i'll try to help out. There is nothing to be scared of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rayquaza2233
Some basic mechanics:
Last hitting: This one will be obvious for you, just hit the creeps when their HP is lower than your auto attack damage, DotA is tricky though because your damage is the average damage you deal, your damage range like in warcraft 3 goes from a minimum to a maximum.
Denying: Reverse last-hitting, do it on your own creeps and no enemies, you can start denying when creeps are below 50%, this can be used for different things, keeping the lane still so the enemy can be kept away from farm instead of getting close to their tower, in a lane where you're even on levels and so on, you can also use it to deny the enemy of potential gold and 50% of the exp. Certain heroes can deny creeps at max hp with their abilities.
Orbs: Orb effects normally don't stack, so lifesteal does not stack with mana burn and so on. But, for ranged heroes eye of skadhi works with life-steal.
Unique attack modifiers(orbs) go like this in terms of priority:
1:Conditional Modifiers - Modifiers that only occur on some attacks and are not controlled by the player, such as Maelstrom (chance-based), Mjollnir (chance-based), and Geminate Attack (cooldown-based)
2:Ability Modifiers - Modifiers granted by Hero abilities*
3:Standard Modifiers - Modifiers granted by items, with the first acquired taking priority
Creeps in the jungle spawn at 0:30 seconds into the game and from there on at X:00 everytime, this can be used to stack creeps so you get more creepcamps at one spot(you can search up guides for this on youtube)
You can also pull creeps to the lane to deny your own creeps even more/let them help you get more exp and gold for your lane.
If there are more mechanics you want to know about, do just ask, i'll explain/help/whatever.
Also something fun if you hover over the shadow demon on the blog:
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Also, this is great for new players:
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Not bad O.o... by the way, 15/0 whit a magina and 26/3!!! :D(this after lossing like 10 games because of totally feeders in my team :( )Quote:
Originally Posted by Unleashing
also, you should add that in the first post, as a spoiler, so we(or at least me) don't need to come to the page 11 and look for that =P
I might write an introductionary guide to DotA on the first page eventually, but for now, no time. D:Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkForgeJ
Also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6W376wMpdk
Sooooooo goooooood
anyone care to critique how I did?
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Tread boots ALWAYS in strenght, for more survivality(?)(more hp), and it's pretty good, you didnt die :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Born2BeMild
You did alright but you have way too little last hits. As a carry like sniper you should aim for something along the lines of 4~5 creeps per minute, for decent farm.
Also, shadow blade is a no-go on sniper, well against semi-decent enemies atleast. He's a hero all about positioning and using your long range, if you get caught you're more than likely dead regardless.
And a good tip is to get a ring of aquilia, gives you good mana regen and decent stats for early game, it's just a perfect item for sniper IMO, and gives you armor for the laning which makes harassing less devastating.
But you did fine, a lot of assists and no deaths and you won the game :)
But it was a stomp, so not much to judge from.
Also this game happened a while ago but i still can't help but love it:
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Look at those last hits, i kept us in the game from 30 minutes and ahead, think i bought back 5 times, kept dying when i sacced myself to get raxes or when i had to def 1v3 and i still killed 2 of them.
I had those items by 40 mins and since then i used all gold for buy-back and for buying my BoT eventually. And i think that was my second or third BKB.
Also, your treads don't have to be strength. It depends on what you're doing, if a fight breaks out and i know i can stand in a safe distance, i'll use agi treads, am i trying to use headshot but oom? change to int treads and hope for the best. Am i pushing? Agi treads it is. But besides that, yea str treads are great.
o.O....(so much knowledge and explanations...... omg D:, everyobdy praise the lord of dota!) .... potato.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Unleashing
I'll take that into account, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unleashing
and about the 5v5 group match, I'm up for it.
Is there like, a good site for DotA 2 guides? Or do DotA 1 guides work for DotA 2? Kind of want to see what other people get on Kardel.
Most guide sites are fairly bad, but if i am online you can ask me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rayquaza2233
In DotA the items you get are 100% depending on your own team and the enemies, but a standard item build for sniper that works pretty well:
Treads obviously, ring of aquila, Yasha into a Helm of the dominator(remember to use the active on creeps with good buffs(and use them to stack with if you feel like it)) now upgrade your yasha into a manta style and work on getting a daedalus(buriza) or a mkb if your enemies have some sort of dodge OR you're pushing into their base (up hill miss removed) by then you should have won if not, go for items such as butterfly, satanic, skadhi as your very last item if you have farm for that, but you probably wont.
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Situnational items: linkens sphere, BKB, shadow blade, maelstrom/mjolnirr, diffusal, Desolator.
Hope that helps. But it really does depend on your enemies and allies.
Guide sites do exist though:
www.playdota.com (this is for DotA1 mainly, but, i guess some of it works)
http://www.dotafire.com/ (i hate this site, it's pomegranate)
Also, Manta is core on sniper. 100% the best item there is for him.
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This game still haunts me, this team was so bad... ._.
For me, playdota is the best place, at the end, guides for dota 1 works the same for dota 2, same map, same heroes, same version... look for the guide whit more points....Quote:
Originally Posted by Rayquaza2233
By the way, still looking for another beta ket for my friend, i used to play dota all the day whit him... (now dota2!!!! take my social life F5.... wait, i dont have one O.o)
If anybody wants, i will have a special offer:
If you want a guide/tips/tricks/whatever for a certain hero, just ask. I will write a lot of good things to know and what items synergizes with the hero, etc.
I will also write an introductionary guide to DotA2 for newcomers and add it to the first post eventually.
Mind like, explaining, the very basic stuff? How do I buy stuff? What is this mule I keep on seeing?
Sure, that'll be a part of my guide.Quote:
Originally Posted by Corn
And by how do you buy stuff i'm assuming you mean stuff like from side-shops and from secret shops, because if not, then you just gotta you know, click on what you want to buy. Or maybe recipes are confusing you?
Regardless to give you a quick explanation:
The mule is the courier. It is a little creature that can evolve into a flying courier.
A courier is bought early in the game commonly by a support or roamer and gives the team a little 'pet' that will carry items to you, meaning you wont need to go back to the fountain just because you can finally afford your brand new item, if the courier is killed it will go away for 3 minutes and give all enemies 150 gold each. Items on the courier remain till it respawns so they are not lost.
A flying courier simply bypasses terrain and got a skill that will allow it to reach max move-speed for a while.
Buying stuff is done by just clicking on them.
Items of different tiers require more sub-items and in some cases recipes.
Items can be kept in your storage if you don't have room for them or if you need to keep them there till you got all the parts for a big item. It is very common to buy the items in small parts due to no risk of dying and losing gold you just got for that item you really wanted. Some items can only be gotten at the secret shop and thus require you or the courier to go there.
You can send a courier to the secret shop? It can buy items?
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rayquaza2233
...how?Quote:
Originally Posted by Unleashing
Walk it near a shop, click on the courier so it is what you are currently controlling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rayquaza2233
Open the shop, buy the item, item will end in courier's inventory and your gold will be used.
Also if there are any specific subjects you would like to have explained/gone trough, list them here please, i am still gathering things that my guide to DotA2 has to include.
I've been having quitters on me in recent matches. Feels bad.
Lycan hitting the main game client tomorrow, the rape may now commence, the biggest pub-stompers and the biggest pushing hero in the game.
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Changelog:
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Bolded interesting stuff in the update.
I am loving this game win or lose. Can't wait to see how this goes when it releases. I would love to pick up that Dr. Kleiner voice pack.
4-0 with riki.
Evertime i play riki i just stomp my enemies, it's hilarious.
http://www.dreamhack.se/dhs12/2012/0...vengeance-cup/
Jesus christ, 400k swedish kroner for the first DotA2 year of dreamhack.
They surely believe it'll be big, with good reason.
The showmatch between Captain Planet and World Elite, featuring yaphets had 1.2 million unique viewers. Which is quite a small number for chinese DotA.
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I'm enjoying some Drow Ranger. the match started off slow, too.
SP should still get 5 people together and play together.
Or 10 if it was possible and scrim/play together :P
Also, a treat for anybody who played DotA1, and for people that appreciate watching a skilled player:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gnnNPElrNQ
Also: I'm trying to start streaming, but i have no idea of what software to use, any ideas?
DotA2 confirmed to not have buyable heroes.
Being F2P.
Never being Pay2Win.
Most likely taking over the way TF2 works in regards to being able to make content/mods/stuff for eachother.
Such good news.
I figured this is how Valve was going to do it. They'd be shooting themselves in the foot if they'd do it some other way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unleashing
Also, map editor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Born2BeMild
DotA2 custom maps.
DotA2 TD of all sorts.
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Valve also said that if the community wants something, they should ask for it and they will add it if it's reasonable and a lot of people want it.
Bless valve for picking up DotA, i am so hyped for the international2 (which was also announced to be happening in not too long)
I wouldn't mind themed maps and other good stuff. I'll throw some cash at Valve for the game every now and again.
Wow, wow wow wow.
New HUD:
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Loving it.
Just going to bump it with this article: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...ience-part-one
It's a really good read, for people that have played DotA and people that have not.Quote:
Dota 2 is fencing.
That's the skill, and the appeal. I finally see it. You're fighting back and forth down these lanes, looking for an opening in the other heroes' defense. The other guy's too close to your tower, or too far from his friend, his ultimate skill's on cooldown, his health is low. Fights in other games last seconds. Fights in Dota 2 are dramatic; entire minutes of feints and narrow escapes. Duels that can span forests, roads and rivers without coming to an end.
Also, my offer still stands, i'm willing to help out anyone that wants to get into DotA and coach you if you want it.
So, two huge waves of invites were sent out, so if anybody is interested in trying it out, now is your chance to find a beta key.
I have 2 myself that i am willing to give to people that are legitimately interested in trying out DotA2.
And for some hilarious pomegranate:
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I haven't gotten any yet :(
Traded a key for an invite for my friend yesterday.
Centaur new ulti is so op :(
It was leaked on Maelk's stream that icefrog is planning to rescale the ult to a constant 4 second duration, mana cost of 80 and CD scaling of 100/90/80 or was it 100/80/60. I forgot.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkForgeJ
Regardless, it is getting hit by the nerf bat. To me, it needs to be rescaled to have a constantly higher cooldown to make it a teamfighting ability and not a get out of jail free card, and it needs to be reduced to a 2k aura and not global.
But yea, IceFrog loves to introduce a new and completely bonkers and broken mechanic and then work on having it work with the rest of the game. It's rare for a hero with a super new mechanic to not be bonkers for a while, but IceFrog's always worked like that, In Icefrog we trust!
Sometimes it's annoying, but outside of captain's mode, no mode was ever more than a fun mode after all.
New silencer is a complete monster though, holy pineapple there is no way to win against him in lane 1v1 outside of being OD.
And i still have a single invite left if someone wants one.
And for some entertainment:
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May I have the invite? I filled out the hardware survey a while back but never got an invite. Dota seemed pretty interesting once I learned it wasn't a traditional RTS game.
Why, yes of course you may.
You can just add me on Steam, you can find me trough the Southperry steam group, my name is Malthe. My steam is also in my profile, here.
I will gladly give you some pointers and tips, since DotA has never been friendly to newcomers.
This might help you a lot too
And this isn't ideal, but these guides are very good for newcomers, i imagine. If you want to learn more about a specific hero that peaks your interest, anyway.
6.76c came out earlier today, Centaur got nerfed and we should be seeing the changes in Dota 2 next week.
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* Stampede cooldown increased from 65 to 120/90/60
* Stampede duration rescaled from 3/4/5 to 3.75
* Stampede damage slightly reworked from 100/150/200 + 2x str to 0 + 1/2/3x str (no base damage)
* Stampede mancost increased from 50 to 80
* Stampede AoE reduced from 120 to 105
* Drow's base armor decreased by 2
* Marksmanship focus AoE increased from 375 to 400
* Last Word manacost from 100 to 115
* Living Armor cooldown and duration decreased from from 20 to 15
* Living Armor manacost decreased 30/35/40/45 to 25
* Fixed an exploit with Enfeeble allowing it to be perma stuck on the enemy in some situations
* Fixed some lag when Centaur initially casts Stampede
* Centaur restricted from Captain's Mode
* Fixed a couple of bugs with -TagTeam mode
* Fixed Force Staff shop hotkey
* Fixed various tooltips
It's going to help, but yea, the global part still needs to go, or it needs to not be less than 120 seconds cooldown ever.
Also lol at drow armor nerf. Wont change much seeing her range is 625 and she buys agility items.
Even with the minus 2 armor she'll be at around 2 armor at level 1 with items. And at level 3 it'll be 3 armor and at level 6 she'll obviously have a pineapple ton.
But well, giving it some thought, neither drow nor centaur are as strong as Zet. It's going to get hard to get used to the way IceFrog treats everything but captain's mode again.
Oh and skimming trough CyborgMatt's extractions reveal that the tutorial is in the works.
Thanks again for the invite. It's exciting and an hour flies by when I play. I'm dying way too much though. I actually died 20 times in a bot match (though I'm a little better than that now). Do you have tips for what to do while running away?
Welcome to dota, allow me to be your guide.Quote:
Originally Posted by Salguod
A big part of DotA, or rather the biggest part is to know your boundaries. This is something even the best of the best have problems finding.
If you know your boundaries and the boundaries of your enemies, the game automatically becomes around 10 times easier.
This comes primarily from experience, you need to know the range of things, how dangerous a hero is at a certain level and so on.
And generally, just playing teaches you this. The best way to learn how to play DotA is to simply play, theorycrafting and reading guides only gets you so far. As you feel more and more secure you can up the difficulty of the bots, as they are not bad as far as laning(the phase of the game where people stick to their lanes to kill creeps) goes and when ganking(Leaving your lane to go kill someone specific). So they will probably teach you some bad habits, which you will slowly lose once you play against other people, but they will also teach you a lot about not overstepping your boundaries since they do what is often referred to as 5-man-doto(Running around as 5 going for kills over farm(killing neutrals)) and this means they will punish and kill you quite often.
Dying a lot in DotA is to be expected if you are new to it, and i am not sure how much experience you have in the game so far, if you let me know i'll explain in the amount of detail i think will be needed.
But as far as escaping goes, you should first of all: ALWAYS CARRY A TELEPORTATION SCROLL.
This is the single most cost-effecient and important item in DotA. It allows you to move fast and to where you need to, but for now you should focus on the basics.
When escaping you can also utilize fog of war and items such as Blink dagger, Shadow blade and force staff.
And then you have certain heroes with built in escape mechanisms, if you do not have access to an item that lets you escape and your hero has no escape mechanisms, then the best tool you have is map awareness, placing wards give you immense vision on the map and allow you to quite safely prevent ganks.
This might give you some good information:
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And you should not be scared away by the aggressive attitude of the DotA community, no matter how good you are, no matter how well you played people will whine and peach. So if they do, you can just mute them and play your game, don't ever let anyone tell you that you are a bad player, because they are in a game with you so their matchmaking is equal to yours or around it, thus they are at the same skill level. And everybody has bad games, EVERYBODY.
I will gladly elaborate and answer any and all questions anybody has about DotA.
And here comes the most important and best advice i will ever be able to give anyone about DotA:
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And this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=365959
Has a ton of good tips/tricks/links.
And this explains almost all you need to know regarding towers:
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Keep in mind that there are dozens of paths through trees and narrow spots across the map, and that you can't see uphill. Positioning is super important in Dota, because a single stun or slow can leave you wide open for multiple heroes to jump on you. With this in mind, try to pay attention to where everyone is on the map. Is anyone missing? Do you have any idea where they went? If not, then play it safe and stick close to your tower/base. Also, avoid overextending while farming creeps, because the further you get from your base, the more dangerous it is. One way to reduce the risk of being jumped on is to buy observer and sentry wards, which is an important thing to learn about. By placing them in high ground spots, you can spot people coming from a good distance away and get out in time. For just 150 gold, you get a pack of two wards that can keep you safe for 6 minutes.
ok so this is the only place that i thinked of because i am to lazy to create an account in another forum...
Anyone interested in making 2 partys of 5 persons so we can try getting the golden baby roshan courier in the diretide game???
It'd be ridiculously hard to beat the time. Plus, I don't think we have 10 Dota 2 players on SP :(
Here's how you beat the crazy times:
have 5 smurf accounts on both teams queu up so they get against eachother, pick pudge and wisp and whatever for the last heroes. Now one team stays level 1 and suicides against pudge and since candy stays at 25/25 roshan wont stop hunting till one team is ahead. Now you have one person on a cliff where roshan can't reach them and have him distract rosh.
Now you allowd pudge to get 50k strength and kill roshan almost instantly.
That's how people are doing it :l
Does anyone want a Dota 2 invite? I got 4 today and all my friends already have it, so I'm giving them away. Three are gone already.
My friend is looking for one ._. , i can give you his steam name tomorrow if it's still available your invitationQuote:
Originally Posted by Dusk
Sure. Add me too http://steamcommunity.com/id/Otaia.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkForgeJ
I got one for myself.
In these two days, I've played two games against bots. The game is interesting.
I got an account back during closed beta, played a couple games. I knowJedVegas has an account too because I gave him one. I'd say we definitely have at least 10 DotA2 players on SP.
If people want to we should definitely find a day to create a 5v5 lobby and play some on the US east servers?
Also, Luck is no excuse numero two is out:
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So I got one more Dota 2 key. Anyone want it?
So yesterday one person I know recived 4 invitations, today another recived 5 invitations, I am still in 0 ¬¬
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Also...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...14498964_n.jpg
I got two more invites today. Looks like they're starting to push for large scale.
Yea, i think so too, they must've finally upped their servers, that's their main reason for not opening the game for all. When they get the game completely up and running and the chinese start playing they will need some pretty massive servers to handle it.
My thoughts on the patch:
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I've got 3 extra keys.
Although I don't really play mobas anymore, just not fun for me =/
RIP NBA Dotes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_BlDM0KyNo&feature=youtu.be&hd=1
New patch broke this amazingly hilarious custom announcer.
Hoping it'll get to work again.
Man, I really need to relearn DotA again.
I think it was an intentional move to disallow custom announcers. It kind of defeats the purpose of selling announcers in their store.
Probably, too bad it didn't get accepted back when the workshop was released.
Also micro skillz:
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Cut-thoart set complete trading my drops from dire tide
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/...495EEC20DB100/
PS: Looking 1 invitation :f6:
Hey, same number of wins. How is my level so much higher? I didn't buy any boosters.
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/...7FC0732F0809A/
Also, I have more invites if you still need them.
I think i had around 100 or more wins before they started whit the exp thing so... yeah ._.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dusk
a friend sttoped playing time ago, he is level 5 whit 200 wins ._.
Ah, makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkForgeJ
http://www.twitch.tv/dreamhackdota production value through the roof with thegdstudio behind it.
Holy pineapple this is the best ever, i hope you guys aren't missing out.
Ingame spectating is free though, but the stream is too funny as well.
http://trance.gg/dota/1000%20dota2%20beta%20keys.txt
A thousand DotA2 keys, i have no idea how many are taken, there are still plenty available at the moment of editing this post.
Also nobody on SP up for a 5 man stack at some point? Could be fun to voice chat it up with some fellas.
Me, and maybe a friend, just don't laugh at my english :f3:Quote:
Originally Posted by Malthe
Holy pomegranate, EG just knocked Na'Vi out of DHW.
And yeah, I'm up for games, though I think our skill levels vary widely.
Yea... Na´vi need to start taking these kind of games more serious, i mean puppey openly admitted that anything that isn't TI doesn't matter to them and is just practice, but pineapple, that was two embarassing losses where they got outdrafted and outplayed.
I mean respect to EG, they deserved the victory, but everybody who has seen Na´vi play knows that this was some serious pineapple-up on their part.
I suspect NTH to win though.
Also i personally don't care about varying skill levels, i play for fun, not to win.
If i wanted to win i would solo Q.
Edit: Note that i'm not trying to take anything away from EGs victory or justify Na´vi's loss, they lost because EG outplayed them, without a pineappleing doubt, and out drafted, second game was lost at draft to me. No idea what puppey was thinking. But seriously congratulations to EG, i would've liked Na´vi to win though, would make for more interesting games with PUDGEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
My concern with wide variation in skill levels on a team isn't the expected win rate, because that should remain around 50%. It's just that it breaks matchmaking and you inevitably get fewer balanced games.
Oh well, we'll see! When would you guys be up for some games?
And would anybody else like to join? Everybody is welcome.
I'm up for a game! I only have 10 wins or so though.
Also, Malthe, I have some more questions.
1. When should I try to go to team fights while we're laning? Should I use a scroll for that? It's still hard for me to keep track of things happening outside my own screen, so
2. Is there anything I can do if I get caught by Pudge?
The only hero I've played more than 5 matches with is Zeus, for reference.
If you are using Zeus... you are deadQuote:
Originally Posted by Salguod
It depends of the hero you are using(some of them can blink/stun or something like that to run before he ulti) but all you need to know are the places where pudge hooks so you can avoid them. If you know Pudge tactics, then you know how to avoid him
1. You always want to carry a TP scroll so you can escape to base or teleport in to defend a tower, and you should try to glance at the minimap every so often to see what's going on in other lanes. When ganks happen in another lane, you have to decide whether your presence will make a difference in the outcome of the fight. Generally, you only want to TP in if the enemies are attempting to take your tower, or diving your tower to get a kill. Otherwise, you might just be TPing in for no reason and have to stand around awkwardly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Salguod
2. There isn't much you can do if you get hooked as a hero with no escape like Zeus other than try to juke him to get away. Getting a Force Staff is a good idea. The best defense against Pudge, though, is to be aware of where he is probably hiding, and to put up Observer wards so you can see him coming.
holy pineapple did anybody see game two with NTH and EG?
NEXT pineappleING LEVEL pomegranate THERE.
ROSHAN BAIT, CHEESE SWAP.
Yeah, just watched the series live. I was rooting for EG, but those were very good games.
Sorry for the slow reply!Quote:
Originally Posted by Salguod
1: You should try to always have a TP scroll on you if your team is engaged upon near a tower or if you're planning to engage the enemies, you're still quite new to the game so as long as you keep track of what you're doing yourself and paying attention to pings, you should be fine. When you become more aware of the sorroundings, you should start to check what's happening on different lanes every now and then, as long as it doesn't influence your own performance in your own lane.
2: When you play against a pudge mid you need to ward his high-ground so you always have vision of him and you need to position yourself so he can not hook you, it nearly doesn't matter who you are, an early game hook latch from pudge is mostly a kill, vision against pudge is key.
Zeus is also a hero with a relatively weak laning phase, and his attack animation is extremely bad making last-hitting with him hard, you might want to pick up some clarity potions before leaving base and later picking up a bottle and arcane boots so you can last hit with arc lightning, of course if you think you can get a last hit without arc lighting, feel free to do so, it is the better result, but don't feel bad for using arc lightning for last-hitting, it's the only way to get some sort of good farm as zeus against an opponent that denies.
Also i don't know who this will benefit but i wrote this, maybe it'll help some newcomers:
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Also, DotA2 FINALLY has PRD, pineapple yeah.
Some of the spawn boxes run along the edges of cliffs, the map is a little inaccurate. Also, I like double pulling, gives more exp.
Holy pomegranate, Lina is fun.
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Originally Posted by Raul
Skip to 1:28
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Also, with having a lot more time on my hands i'll probably start streaming DotA again soon, woo.
Also, been practicing meepo lately, so much smoother than in DotA1.
Also these two guides are god-tier for newer players IMHO:
The complete DotA2 guide to stat-manipulation
How to play support. (Good for people who don't play supports as well, it generally just has a LOT of good information.)
It misses using Dragon Slave to farm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Malthe
Also, it may just be me, but it seems like there's a problem when the most-played champion in the game also has the highest winrates in the game at about 60%.
Drow ranger is not in captain's mode, same goes for the rest of the heroes who recieved a rework, no problems noticed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raul
DotA is made for captain's mode, all other modes are for fun modes. DotA always has had a group of heroes who weren't in captain's mode after recieving a rework, it's how IceFrog works. This is regardless of if the rework made them too strong or if the rework made them too weak of if it made them just perfect.
Drow most likely wouldn't be as strong in organized games as she is in unorganized games since she still has the problems that she's always had.
Noobs love Drow because she is such an easy silence and right-click to win hero. Almost all the top picked heroes are either super easy or extremely versatile (like Windrunner and Invoker). The easy ones tend to have the highest win rates, for obvious reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raul
That said, Drow definitely needs a bit of a rework. She gets ridiculously powerful without any farm whatsoever, and her aura completely destroys your towers.
The main problem is the global part of her aura and possibly how big the spike is for her at level 6.
After 30 minutes into the game in so her damage isn't really bothering me at all, it's high(The agility from her ulti is 5 less compared to the old ulti in a teamfight with an organized team) but she's still incredibly vulnerable and easy to neutralize.
The only thing that bothers me is how her aura will keep all lanes pushed forever, that's the thing that will most likely be changed in 6.77.
Her pub winrate doesn't mean a lot, i mean brood has sub 40% winrate and she's still a very VERY good hero. Or clinkz at 42%
I downloaded stream earlier to try TF2, mostly because it's free.
I remember seeing this thread so I was like "Oh, let's see if it's free too!" and it isn't but it says I already own it and I'm confused.
Anyone care explaining?
It is free, somewhat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Words
There are a multitude of invites circling around since it's still a beta, and getting an invite isn't hard at all, i still personally have keys around. Valve have a special pack for sale that includes ingame cosmetic items and an invite, but it's not really worth buying since invites are so easy to come by.
And what you 'own' is most likely the spectator client, not the actual game, they are nearly identical untill you get inside the game where you are only able to spectate, not play. Unless you actually already have the beta and you were signed up for a beta key or something?
Link me to your steam profile and i'll check which you are in possesion of.
Also, jesus christ i hope Magnus has his skewer changed and shockwave put on a slightly higher cooldown. Possibly tweak the cooldown of his ulti as well. The numbers on his ulti is fine though, but yea.
Your wish is Valve's command.Quote:
Originally Posted by Malthe
Nope, they didn't do anything of what i wanted, especially since Valve technically doesn't handle balance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raul
I want IceFrog to either up the mana cost or cooldown of shockwave because he's back to being one of the best solo mids due to how well he pushes lanes and controls runes. I want these changes:
Cooldown or mana change on shockwave.
Skewer should scale or not go through BKB, probably both. The range is too much at level 1.
Possibly increase the cooldown of empower so it's not on 24/7 on 2~3 heroes.
The ulti is fine, number wise. His ulti was never really broken, but because of how good his laning is now he no longer has the problems he used to have.
Magnus is the strongest hero in DotA right now, hands down. Mid-game impact is too high. Old magnus was too bad at laning though. Some number changes and he'd be back to being a good hero but not what he is right now, which is a nightmare combined with any kind of teamfighting lineup.
Glad they fixed empower staying on with BKB though.
And thank pineappleing god they finally fixed the neut pulling, holy pineapple.
- Added Pseudo Random chances for the following items: Daedalus, Crystalys, Abyssal Blade, Basher, Heaven's Halbred, Maelstrom, Mjollnir, Static Charge, Monkey King Bar, Poor Man's Shield, Sange, Sange and Yasha, Stout Shield, Vanguard.
pineapple YES This is a buff to Abyssal and basher though, you'll be building up bash chance while it's on cooldown, unless valve took that into account, i hope they did.
Big news:
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Thank god, i hope 6.77 brings back the stability of the older patches, i want a good half year without patches again.
So, I've been watching matches and it looks really fun and I have a couple questions:
1. When I select free camera, moving the mouse over any part of the screen makes it go really, really fast and far. Is it possible to change that, in both spectator and the other client?
2. UI is HUGE, can that be changed?
3. After reading and watching, best teams are the ones that are coordinated. Having no headset would affect my game play?
1. You can change the sensitivity in options, IIRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Words
2. This is what the regular UI looks like(Warning the following picture is zoomed in, but didn't wanna look for a zoomed out picture with the newest UI), if yours looks bigger than this then i am not sure what the problem is, if it looks the same, then no there isn't. Although from what i gather we will be able to customize the UI soon.
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3. In pubs(Public games, also called pugs by some) team coordination is generally low, not having a mic wont hinder you a lot, especially with the new chat-wheel:
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When you're playing you'll usually not have to say more than a few single-words that comes to you after playing for a while, words like "Gank, rune top, rune bottom, back, go, care, wards and so on, although the chat wheel actually handles most of these.)
The game is like the average gaming community, filled with idiots and immature trolls. A good way to play is to actually just mute all your teammates the second they bother you.
If there are any other questions you have, feel free to ask.
Also a tutorial is in the makings and will be incredibly well done from what i gather.
The UI looks bigger on non 16:9 resolutions, that might be the problem. I'm playing on 1920x1080 and it looks fine.
Also, I have more invites if anyone else wants to play.
As a very active member of TL, this is amazing news to me:
Presenting, Liquid DotA!
If it's not a big deal I'd like an invite. I'm guessing you guys will be kind enough to tutor me, right? :P
I'm gonna take a nap and I'll be back in a couple hours.
Sure, message me on steam and i'll send one your way. And i'll be fresh to jump into co-op vs AI games with you and answer any questions you might have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Words
Edit: Just started a game, so i might not reply instantly.
It's basically just Complexity's team, rebranded. I'm happy to see more NA pro Dota action, though. We lag behind in all the big eSports.Quote:
Originally Posted by Malthe
@Words What's your steam name?