100% critical nl dpm?

I was thinking of getting critical equips to make me crit 100% of the time on a nl. How would this compare to other classes dam? I know crits have been nerfed, but is it worth it? And has this been factored in while calculating dpm?

Also

1. SE still raises my avenger's dam by like 20k~ but ppl make it sound like crap now. Is it that bad?

2. Does thorns + se stack currently? (se raising max crit dam while thorns raising max min dam?)

You can only get Critical on the weapon, So unless you are gonna sacrifice 30% boss damage and/or 15/30% PDR Ignore (Which are better than some lousy 9% critical) then go ahead.

Also After Chaos Thorns stop being a Party buff to be a Self-Buff For DB, but i don't think it stack with SE.

I agree with Dante.

50% from skill
5% base
Let's pretend 10% from a critical ring

That brings you to 65% crit. You need 35% more.

If you have self SE that's 10%. But let's pretend you're a bowman's peach so you can claim a full 20% from regular SE.

You still need 15% crit. You could probably get 8% 8% on your claw but as dante said you'd be sacrificing damage from better potential stats. Not to mention you're probably not gunna be around a bowman that often for the full 20% SE.

If there's a 95% cap on avoidability i would assume there is a similar cap on crit rate, and i remember claims of said cap existing, but i've never seen proof of it actually applied.

I agree with Dante.

50% from skill
5% base
Let's pretend 10% from a critical ring

That brings you to 65% crit. You need 35% more.

If you have self SE that's 10%. But let's pretend you're a bowman's peach so you can claim a full 20% from regular SE.

You still need 15% crit. You could probably get 8% 8% on your claw but as dante said you'd be sacrificing damage from better potential stats. Not to mention you're probably not gunna be around a bowman that often for the full 20% SE.

Actually i have a bowman mule i train with all the time. And while bossing there is usually always a bowman there as well. So i do factor in that I already have 80% crit rate. While i dont want to sacrifice damage i dont neccesarily need perfect 100% either. even 90 or 95 would probably be enough to see sexy red numbers all the time. So maybe instead of sacirficing 2 % crits maybe just one line for % crit and the rest for damage.

30% Boss
15/30% PDR ignore
X% Crit

Good luck finding those. But no mather what critical in your weapon should take the lowest priority.

You can only get Critical on the weapon, So unless you are gonna sacrifice 30% boss damage and/or 15/30% PDR Ignore (Which are better than some lousy 9% critical) then go ahead.

Also After Chaos Thorns stop being a Party buff to be a Self-Buff For DB, but i don't think it stack with SE.

After Chaos, Thorns is +30 weapon attack and 90% stance. No more criticals.

im 95% sure Critical caps at 95%

Actually, it might be 90%

I suppose.. Well even 95% is good enuf for me or 90%

Maybe they will come out with other items that add % crit lol.

Anyone know how much crit raises ur atk?

Is everyone pretty much saying a combo of any of these 3

9% luk
30% pdef
30% total dam
30% boss dam
is all > 89% crit rate? + 2 of the above stats ?

Pretty sure crit rate doesn't have a limit.

Edit: Nvm, can't post a SS. I cubed over my %crit stuff. lol.
Still sure there isn't a crit limit, someone in the forums said they had 98% crit with SE before.

This is close enough.
.

err forgot to ask, is the 5% or is it 10%? base crit for all classes show in your stats window ? or is it hidden?

It's 5%.

Pretty sure crit rate doesn't have a limit.

Edit: Nvm, can't post a SS. I cubed over my %crit stuff. lol.
Still sure there isn't a crit limit, someone in the forums said they had 98% crit with SE before.

This is close enough.
.

This guy has over 100% crit o.o

What skill is that on both the WH and the NL screenshots? The farthest one to the right.

What skill is that on both the WH and the NL screenshots? The farthest one to the right.

It's a wild hunter buff from the skill "swallow" or "Jaguar-Oshi" that increases critical chance.

The difference between 80% Critical and 100% Critical with 30 Sharp Eyes on a Night Lord is only 1.079x.

Don't forget Combat Orders to get some more % off Sharp eyes.

The difference between 81% Critical and 100% Critical with 32 Sharp Eyes on a Night Lord is only 1.075x.

It's a wild hunter buff from the skill "swallow" or "Jaguar-Oshi" that increases critical chance.

Why would the NL have it, then?

Why would the NL have it, then?

It's a party buff. All buffs from the skill are party buffs if the party members are within a certain vicinity of the Wild Hunter.