Avatar Smegas

Avatar Smega's are just about the stupidest things ever. I died so many times today because xxxx had extra cash to spend. :f7:

Basically, when an avatar smega pops up, I get lagged. After I lag, if I get dispelled, I don't see it because the smega usually blends in with the color of the skill icons.

Also, the people who spam these type of smegas usually have nothing good to say.

So who thinks Nexon should start selling avatar smega blockers? And if so, for how much a piece (assuming the regular 90 day items). I personally think it should be 4K NX for three months.

Id say for a 1 day one 5k, but knowing nexon, theyd oly sell a 3 month one for 30k NX

how about just having a thing in system options that lets u turn them off.

They should make one for 10k, at most. However, knowing how they are, expect 25k+ prices.

No, they shouldn't sell them, they should GIVE them to us. Those avatar smegas are so annoying.

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Originally Posted by DrRusty

how about just having a thing in system options that lets u turn them off.

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good idea, but we know nexon would never do that

Ooops. I voted the wrong one. I didn't read the whole question and asked "Should Nexon sell avatar Smegas."

I should stop doing that; that how I failed my Physics quiz. :f7:

Would it be nice to have a avatar/smega blocker? Yup
Would I buy it? Nope.

They were annoying the first day or two but fact of the matter is, I dont even notice them anymore. I dont lag by them, they dont get glitched/stuck on my screen, etc. I personally find then lame looking to begin with so I dont see why so many people use them but that's an entirely different topic.

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Originally Posted by DrRusty

how about just having a thing in system options that lets u turn them off.

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Well..So whats the point of Avatar Smega if everyoune would turn it OFF?

They have to sell it ;)

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Originally Posted by DrRusty

how about just having a thing in system options that lets u turn them off.

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Then they'd lose profit.
If they had that function, I estimate 1/3rd of the people who spams these wouldn't use it anymore.

However, if they sold a blocker, then probably 1/5th of the spammers would stop, but 1/3 of the MS population would buy these. That equals profit, which equals Nexon.

I don't mind them as much. It would be better if they came on the other side of my screen, though. I'd rather it block my mini-map than blend in with my supportive skills.

They should option to block, but not require to buy.

I hate them too... I know when one is coming cause i lag for like 2 seconds... I also lag when someone enters the same map... so idc about these things anymore...

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Originally Posted by Loose

I don't mind them as much. It would be better if they came on the other side of my screen, though. I'd rather it block my mini-map than blend in with my supportive skills.

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If you're a mage and you get dispelled while an avatar smega is rolling, you can't see, and that makes it very lethal. :f7:

I'm probably too cheap to actually buy them if they were a CS item, but I'd love it if they had an option to disable them.

I used to think I didn't have a problem with lag from these things, but after adding a hard drive to my system I now have one. If I've been grinding in the same map for long enough, and no other players have come through, the drive that Maple's data is stored on shuts itself completely off. Now that's fine as long as I stay in that map and nobody comes in, but if someone else enters then the drive suddenly has to turn on and spin up before the character's appearance can be loaded. The same applies to avatar megaphones. This means the entire screen freezes for about 10 seconds, and I can hear the drive doing its thing.

By the time everything un-freezes, I'm usually dead. :f7:

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Originally Posted by Harrisonized

If you're a mage and you get dispelled while an avatar smega is rolling, you can't see, and that makes it very lethal. :f7:

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An alternative solution could be that you choose where your buffs appear.

Also, if a avatar smega blocker was implemented, I imagine they wouldn't lose profit at first but when no one buys avatar smegas anymore, they would.

Make them not lag you? Everyone wins, no one has to buy more NX.

If they didn't lag people to death then they would be just annoying, and you'd never notice them. They are a problem, though, beacuse they kill people. >_>;

I wouldn't personally buy it, since they don't lag me, but it would be nice for the laggers. :)

I think if you complained to Nexon about this they'd just tell you to get a faster computer. I live in England and obviously have the lag that goes with living far away from the server, yet Avatar Megaphones tend not to lag me at all really. Although I guess I don't train in larger, more populated maps.

Your location relative to the server deosn't make you lag more. But seriously, some people might like those in lieu of "upgrading your computer", because frankly, the former option is just a lot cheaper.

I won't buy the blockers (they do nothing to me, seeing I can't do anything when I'm dispelled, and it's rather obvious to me when I DO get dispelled when I start hearing SOUNDS as I shoot my arrows).

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Originally Posted by DarkestTempest

Your location relative to the server deosn't make you lag more.

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It doesn't?

Well put it this way:
EMS pretty much doesn't lag for me at all: drops are picked up instantly and portals are entered instantly.
GMS lags, but is bearable: drops take around a second to pick up (individually), and portals take a good 5 seconds to enter.
JMS lags pretty unbearably: drops take at least 10 seconds to pick up and portals can take up to a minute to enter.

It it were Nexon designing these, they'd probably release them as nx items called earplugs, super earplugs, and avatar earplugs. If they wanted to go the extra mile, they'd make avatar earplugs only block the messages and design eyeplugs (lol) for the actual picture itself. And of course make them extremely expensive and only block the ones they're designed for.

But seriously, they'll never make these because they'll lose money that way.

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Originally Posted by Cyanne

But seriously, they'll never make these because they'll lose money that way.

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How will they lose money, with people buying both items?
People spamming smegas would still spam, and people who don't use smegas will buy their 'earplugs'.

I think it would be best to have some way just to block the pop up in the top right corner, but leave the message in the chat box alone. That way would stop people from lagging without keeping others from using the megaphones.

Isn't having them appear in the corner the whole point of using av smegas? If they made it a setting, I'm sure a lot of people will turn them on, then seeing the av smegas have no more purpose, those spammers start buying regular smegas. Nexon would lose (a little) profit, and they wouldn't like that.

Earplugs sound much more up their alley. :f3:

I made an angry commentary about these a while back and referred to the patch that spawned this evil creation 'the worst patch ever'. I stand by that notion.

There is no reason or necessity to have some moron pop up in your face talking about their drama or who they want you to spam, etc. Your buffs usually cover up 80+% of the text and usually a similar amount of the character anyway. So.. what's the point of the avatar megaphone? It lags people.

My computer is pretty decent (built almost 2-ish years ago with upgrades every now and then), but there's still a very detectable frame skip when they show up. Granted, it's only for 150-200ms or so. Doesn't make it any less noticeable for me though.

It's a lot more noticeable than that in places such as Zakum as well. Cough cough.

In short, it was an "interesting" experiment, but in practice, there is no reason for these to exist in the first place. They do nothing useful and many things harmful. That makes them bad. They were a bad idea and they should not exist. We should not be forced to pay for a solution for fixing a bad idea.

So I guess my vote is no, they shouldn't sell a fix to these megaphones. They should destroy them.

What other company could make profit by annoying the majority of their users? Linux geeks, don't answer that. It's rhetoric.

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Originally Posted by LazyBui

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There is no reason or necessity to have some moron pop up in your face talking about their drama or who they want you to spam, etc. Your buffs usually cover up 80+% of the text and usually a similar amount of the character anyway. So.. what's the point of the avatar megaphone? It lags people.

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The other point? Makes more money for Nexon, as I assume they're more expensive. (I've never been in the smega buying business) Of course, your idea will not happen because of this. >.>

I've got no problem with them lol
If it brings the game money and keeps it free I don't really care

Its not like you notice them while you are training anyway cuz ur skills go over the peoples faces, and the part that goes into your char is less noticeable than ur chat itself

They used to lag me on my old computer, but luckily not anymore. I can say though that they were so pineappleing annoying when I trained at Wolf Spiders... Yay, free deaths.

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How will they lose money, with people buying both items?
People spamming smegas would still spam, and people who don't use smegas will buy their 'earplugs'.

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Because people who smega are aware that everyone can see their smega. If a good amount of people are buying earplugs, what is the point in smega-ing? So if there are rarely any smegas, why buy earplugs? Of course this depends on many factors, but its a possible situation =P

But agree that they can get annoying every now and then...esp if you lag in mid-air of a jump during a jump quest >__>...AND you're near the finish T-T

The main problem with these things is that menus, buffs, and other pomegranate on your screen already eats up 50% of the 800x600 space, and these things kill another chunk of the available space. Here I am advocating for tabbed chat and smaller menus, and they come by and drop one of those screen blockers in my face.

They cause a little lag for me, but it's not enough to bother me unless I'm in the middle of a jump quest.

I wouldn't pay money to buy those 'cause I only lag one or two seconds if at all.
Waste of NX for me.

They should just have an option to turn off the image part and keep the text. Like regular smegas.

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Originally Posted by Retalion

Would it be nice to have a avatar/smega blocker? Yup
Would I buy it? Nope.

They were annoying the first day or two but fact of the matter is, I dont even notice them anymore. I dont lag by them, they dont get glitched/stuck on my screen, etc. I personally find then lame looking to begin with so I dont see why so many people use them but that's an entirely different topic.

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I have to agree. After a while you get use to them. In bera, Not many people use them. If they do it's usually for a 100-150 Congratulations or just a NX Whoar Spammer.

No they should not sell Avatar Smega Blockers...they should have a game option to turn the avatar part of then off. I'm ok with seeing the message in my chat window.

OMG! I hate avatar smegas!! These stupid things had me killed a few times while training :f3:!

I play Maple in 2 locations, home, and university computer lab.
When I play at home, I lag when those things pop up... if I was playing my mage at a high level place. Sayonara.
When I play my sniper it's okay, fog is not leathal for me, but where I am moving to after I hit 80 will matter. I don't want to waste charms =______=
Oh well, hopefully I'll get a new computer at Christmas (not likely :f7:)

Hmm ..
I think , even without a blocker , Avatar Smegas should be disabled at bosses (Pap , Zak , HT etc..) .
Should be a Game/System option to disable them , though ):

I think they should. People would buy them, and even if people stopped buying Avatar smegas, they'd still make money since avatar smegas are only 400 NX higher than regular smegas, I believe.

I think everyone is missing the point =P
Allowing the option of a smega blocker defeats the purpose of buying avatar smegas...I mean, would you really pay more nx for an avatar smega if lets say...50% of the people are just blocking your avatar? The whole point is for people to see you.

Remember..nexon is a business...and nexon<3 money. The point of having an avatar smega is to make people pay more money for an extra feature. If people are just blocking it...why have that item in the first place?

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Originally Posted by bittersweets

I think everyone is missing the point =P
Allowing the option of a smega blocker defeats the purpose of buying avatar smegas...I mean, would you really pay more nx for an avatar smega if lets say...50% of the people are just blocking your avatar? The whole point is for people to see you.

Remember..nexon is a business...and nexon<3 money. The point of having an avatar smega is to make people pay more money for an extra feature. If people are just blocking it...why have that item in the first place?

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However, like I said above... if 50% of the people are buying blockers priced at say, 10k for one month... It would get Nexon more money. The avatar smegaers would witch to regular smegas, only 40 cents less, while Nexon GAINS $10 for each person who bought a blocker. Unless things go horribly wrong, they SHOULD make moneyz.

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Originally Posted by bittersweets

I think everyone is missing the point =P
Allowing the option of a smega blocker defeats the purpose of buying avatar smegas...I mean, would you really pay more nx for an avatar smega if lets say...50% of the people are just blocking your avatar? The whole point is for people to see you.

Remember..nexon is a business...and nexon<3 money. The point of having an avatar smega is to make people pay more money for an extra feature. If people are just blocking it...why have that item in the first place?

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so... 50% of the ppl bought the avatar blocker for 4k NX lasting 3 month.

asumming that there are 3 million players nexon just made a $6 million profit in 3 month. that alone is more money than the original money made by buying smegas.

Actually, I was mainly referring to people who suggested that the option of a avatar blocker should be implemented into the game, not bought. In which case, they would definitely lose money, thereby making the avatar smegas useless.

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asumming that there are 3 million players nexon just made a $6 million profit in 3 month

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They don't make a profit in 3months, they make a profit at a specific point in time...from when the player bought it, and then for 3 months the players do not buy anything else (smega-blocker related)
Where in contrast, smegas are 1 time use only items and it's a constant flow of cash. Anyhow, there a lot of variables to this and I dont want to think too in depth about this... cause i'm doing homework xD

I'm not saying they aren't annoying, they are..sometimes, but just turn your quality on low, turn off background programs, and they shouldnt lag you too much.

um... how about instead of putting them in top right, put them in top left... then you can still see your skills. They honestly dont affect me that much.

I'd think it would be nice to have them blocked in important maps (IE : pianus, pap, zakum, horned tail, showa bosses)

They honestly don't annoy me.
Unless its in stage 1 GPQ. :<

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Originally Posted by Sivrat

um... how about instead of putting them in top right, put them in top left... then you can still see your skills. They honestly dont affect me that much.

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Usually, when you have the option to choose where something goes, you can also hide it.
For example, you can drag the minimap out of the screen. This will result in people not seeing avatar smegas at all.

Instead of spending money on NX for avatar smega blockers, spend money upgrading your computer so the avatar smegas don't lag you. :f2:

I don't even notice them anymore.

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Originally Posted by Migrant

It doesn't?

Well put it this way:
EMS pretty much doesn't lag for me at all: drops are picked up instantly and portals are entered instantly.
GMS lags, but is bearable: drops take around a second to pick up (individually), and portals take a good 5 seconds to enter.
JMS lags pretty unbearably: drops take at least 10 seconds to pick up and portals can take up to a minute to enter.

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Yeah, if EMS doesn't lag for you, might you actually be in Europe? :f6:

Well, I've played just about every Eastern/Asian version of MS and all of them lag more for me the farther you go out. I'd have to say CMS and HKMS have been the worst, and VMS is pretty high up there, too. I've never played EMS but I'm guessing it wouldn't be so bad since I'm on the East Coast USA...relatively close if you're talking server location.

Anywho, I guess they don't bother me much. The only ones that REALLY bother me are the ones that glitch up and don't go away until someone else uses one.
At one point I bought one just to un-glitch the last one. Seriously annoying to see one persons face on the top of my screen for like 20-30 minutes.

They should have an option where it blocks the avatar, but still displays the message in your chat box

As many have proposed, there should be a Cash Shop item that disables at least the stupid avatar part of the smega.

Although I don't think NEXON will ever implement something like that because sales would drop...

I don't think Nexon should sell them, they need to create a feature that lets us turn Smega's & Avatar Smega's on & off. Especially people who think its funny to spam useless stuff and makes it hard for some people to read chat.

I also get lagged [very badly sometimes] because of Avatar Semga's & have died in the past because it caused my screen to freeze up. D: