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A skill has to be at level 15 before you can use the Mastery 30 book. Hence, you must use the 20 first.

Mastery books don't drop from monsters anymore. Mystery Mastery books might, but the chance of getting the book you need from one of them is miniscule (there are, what, 500 different 4th job skills in the game now? more?), *and* those books can fail.

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I have another question, about Mastery Books. Do they drop from any or specific (or neither?) monsters? Saw that you could buy them from from an NPC, but those are quite expensive... Everything seems more expensive than they used to be since then last time I played... Mastery Books 20 and 30 increase the SP limit to 20/30, right? Can I use one that is 30 before using a 20? I tried following a few SP guides an they expect me to have all 30 spots for every skill available, iirc. So I have like 7 or 8 SP just hanging atm lol.

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I'm afraid those were removed some time ago. Specific mastery books were replaced by Mystery Mastery Books quite a while ago, somewhere pre-Justice/Renegades, and I think those books are replaced too, although I'm not sure. The only option now is either to find old books on mules, which should still work, or buy the Mastery Book 20/30s. Also, you need to use 20 before you can use 30.
I personally don't play in Scania, but maybe somebody who does can help with the books?

One last thing: Nexon replaced the normal AP resets with full AP resets in the Cash Shop some time ago. While I don't know how expensive they are, they might be a decent option because I seriously doubt there will be anymore full AP resets coming this long after Tempest.

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Originally Posted by SaptaZapta

A skill has to be at level 15 before you can use the Mastery 30 book. Hence, you must use the 20 first.

Mastery books don't drop from monsters anymore. Mystery Mastery books might, but the chance of getting the book you need from one of them is miniscule (there are, what, 500 different 4th job skills in the game now? more?), *and* those books can fail.

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I tend to get unlucky with item chances, darn lol.

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Originally Posted by Encyclopedic

I'm afraid those were removed some time ago. Specific mastery books were replaced by Mystery Mastery Books quite a while ago, somewhere pre-Justice/Renegades, and I think those books are replaced too, although I'm not sure. The only option now is either to find old books on mules, which should still work, or buy the Mastery Book 20/30s. Also, you need to use 20 before you can use 30.
I personally don't play in Scania, but maybe somebody who does can help with the books?

One last thing: Nexon replaced the normal AP resets with full AP resets in the Cash Shop some time ago. While I don't know how expensive they are, they might be a decent option because I seriously doubt there will be anymore full AP resets coming this long after Tempest.

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Yeah all I see is a single AP Reset.

Whoa dead thread

I have another question though. For Dark Knights, what's a recommended build without buying books? I'm at level 117, have 1 on Barricade Mastery and "maxed" Dark Impale at 10. So I have 44 points left over. I'm too poor for books.

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Whoa dead thread

I have another question though. For Dark Knights, what's a recommended build without buying books? I'm at level 117, have 1 on Barricade Mastery and "maxed" Dark Impale at 10. So I have 44 points left over. I'm too poor for books.

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http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStor...80.html#001021

follow that build, skipping what you can't level.

however, i REALLY recommend not going into part two if you haven't maxed the previous skills, since all part two is good for is bossing, and you need a maxed sacrifice for that too. that money is better spent making all your damage higher. via final pact, barricade mastery and dark impale

edit: also, it's not that this thread is dead, it's just that it only lives when someone has a question. you could say it's a way to skip making a whole new thread for a small question

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Originally Posted by ShinkuDragon

http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStor...80.html#001021

follow that build, skipping what you can't level.

however, i REALLY recommend not going into part two if you haven't maxed the previous skills, since all part two is good for is bossing, and you need a maxed sacrifice for that too. that money is better spent making all your damage higher. via final pact, barricade mastery and dark impale

edit: also, it's not that this thread is dead, it's just that it only lives when someone has a question. you could say it's a way to skip making a whole new thread for a small question

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Alrighty. So I "maxed" Barricade, Stance, and Final Pact. Added 1 on both Sacrifice and Gungnir's Descent each as the guide optioned me to, now I have 13 points leftover o/. Should I actually be aiming for getting the Mastery Books now? Or...

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Alrighty. So I "maxed" Barricade, Stance, and Final Pact. Added 1 on both Sacrifice and Gungnir's Descent each as the guide optioned me to, now I have 13 points leftover o/. Should I actually be aiming for getting the Mastery Books now? Or...

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You should aim to get Mastery Books, at the very least all the free ones you can get for the upcoming 40-60skill points or so. It should help you more than "maxing" others.

There is also evo world for 'free' mastery book 20's. Not entirely free, but they dont cost mesos.

So far it looks like these can give free master books?

Neo City Questline (If I could turn back time Quest)
Lion Heart Questline (Luden’s Gift Quest)
Silent Crusade Questline (Complete Chapter 3: The Long Road)
Grand Athenaeum Questline (Mastery Book 20)
Golden Temple Questline (Mastery Book 20)
MapleStory Singapore Captain Latanica Questline (Mastery Book 20)
Krexel Pre-Quest Savior of Ulu City Questline (Mastery Book 30)

(although Neo City is blocked off)

Nice to know Evo World gives them too, thanks!

Working on Lion King's Castle right now.

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So far it looks like these can give free master books?

Neo City Questline (If I could turn back time Quest)
Lion Heart Questline (Luden’s Gift Quest)
Silent Crusade Questline (Complete Chapter 3: The Long Road)
Grand Athenaeum Questline (Mastery Book 20)
Golden Temple Questline (Mastery Book 20)
MapleStory Singapore Captain Latanica Questline (Mastery Book 20)
Krexel Pre-Quest Savior of Ulu City Questline (Mastery Book 30)

(although Neo City is blocked off)

Nice to know Evo World gives them too, thanks!

Working on Lion King's Castle right now.

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You should get a book 30 out of Lion King's Castle, since there aren't that many quests to obtain them. I think you can choose from Silent Crusade a 30 as well.

Hi everyone,
I haven't played in what feels like ages, I think the raising of the level cap was just hitting the KMST servers at the time. I ended up stopping at 187 I think it was and just had a few questions before I get completely lost.

-From what I've been reading, mastery books are sold by NPCs now? I had already passed all my other mastery books sans Maple Warrior and Hero's will (if that one even had one). Since the dark knight branch was thoroughly redone, do I still need the mastery books for these new skills or will the skill cap transfer over?
-Is the stronghold still the best place to grind until eternity?
-I glanced over the skills a few times and is stance really at 100% now and passive? That's huge! :f5:
-How are bosses nowadays? I see pictures all the time of max damage characters just solo'ing everything it seems. Are these the top 1%'s or is it easier to hit the damage cap now?
-Similarly, have guilds gotten more useful?
-It also looks like dark knights have a lot of room to max out skills (using this as a guide: http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStor...Guide-280.html). Is this a suitable one to follow up with?
-Is there still an hp cap? Way back I remember 30k before hyper body but I can't recall off the top of my head it ever changing?
-I guess most importantly, do people still play/enjoy the game?

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Hi everyone,
I haven't played in what feels like ages, I think the raising of the level cap was just hitting the KMST servers at the time. I ended up stopping at 187 I think it was and just had a few questions before I get completely lost.

-From what I've been reading, mastery books are sold by NPCs now? I had already passed all my other mastery books sans Maple Warrior and Hero's will (if that one even had one). Since the dark knight branch was thoroughly redone, do I still need the mastery books for these new skills or will the skill cap transfer over?

Yes, a few NPCs sell mastery books now. Level 20 books are 3 million mesos, and level 30 books are 5 million mesos. Not sure if the skill cap transfered, it might have.

-Is the stronghold still the best place to grind until eternity?

In a few days, we're getting a new area catering to level 200+, the Scrapyard of Edelstein. It's better, but for now, yes.

-I glanced over the skills a few times and is stance really at 100% now and passive? That's huge! :f5:

Yes it is, though it's kind of unfair compared to some other jobs, which gain 100% stance by 3rd job and only at 10 points (Battle Mage and Mihile in KMS).

-How are bosses nowadays? I see pictures all the time of max damage characters just solo'ing everything it seems. Are these the top 1%'s or is it easier to hit the damage cap now?

They are the top 1%, but in some ways it is easier to deal damage.
-Similarly, have guilds gotten more useful?

Since the family system was removed, some skills were turned into guild skills, such as being able to teleport to guild members and teleporting them to you.
-It also looks like dark knights have a lot of room to max out skills (using this as a guide: http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStor...Guide-280.html). Is this a suitable one to follow up with?

Now, you can max all your 4th job skills by 140, so you won't have a problem there.
-Is there still an hp cap? Way back I remember 30k before hyper body but I can't recall off the top of my head it ever changing?

The cap is now 500,000.

-I guess most importantly, do people still play/enjoy the game?

Somewhat

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Originally Posted by Surtr

Hi everyone,
I haven't played in what feels like ages, I think the raising of the level cap was just hitting the KMST servers at the time. I ended up stopping at 187 I think it was and just had a few questions before I get completely lost.

-From what I've been reading, mastery books are sold by NPCs now? I had already passed all my other mastery books sans Maple Warrior and Hero's will (if that one even had one). Since the dark knight branch was thoroughly redone, do I still need the mastery books for these new skills or will the skill cap transfer over?

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Some skills were "changed" and some are "new". The changed ones' mastery level stayed, but the new ones need new books.
The books are sold by NPC Iliad in Leafre (by Mo), and by the potion shops in Henesys and Leafre. There are just two books: Mastery Book 20 (which is 100% to raise the max of whichever skill you choose to 20) and Mastery Book 30 (which is 100% to raise the max to 30). Yes, they work for Maple Warrior too.

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-Is the stronghold still the best place to grind until eternity?

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Yes. But tomorrow's patch brings us a new level 190+ area that is supposed to be better. We will see.

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-I glanced over the skills a few times and is stance really at 100% now and passive? That's huge! :f5:

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Yes, it is :)

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-How are bosses nowadays? I see pictures all the time of max damage characters just solo'ing everything it seems. Are these the top 1%'s or is it easier to hit the damage cap now?

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Top 1% and even less.
But the general attitude is "if you can't solo the boss, don't bother with it at all." Few people boss in groups (other than one person solo'ing and the rest being loot mules).

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Originally Posted by Surtr

-Similarly, have guilds gotten more useful?

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Guilds now have some useful skills, such as revive and teleport. But those are for high-level, active bossing guilds, mostly.

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Originally Posted by Surtr

-It also looks like dark knights have a lot of room to max out skills (using this as a guide: http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStor...Guide-280.html). Is this a suitable one to follow up with?

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You get enough SP to max all your 4th job skills by level 140. So you don't really need a guide.

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-Is there still an hp cap? Way back I remember 30k before hyper body but I can't recall off the top of my head it ever changing?

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It's 500k now, I believe.
But it doesn't matter much, because the bigger bosses all have %HP attacks, that will take off 90% (or w/e) of your HP
whether you have 5k or 500k

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Originally Posted by Surtr

-I guess most importantly, do people still play/enjoy the game?

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Some do. Not as many as there used to be, but enough to not be lonely if you don't want to be.

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Originally Posted by Surtr

1.From what I've been reading, mastery books are sold by NPCs now? I had already passed all my other mastery books sans Maple Warrior and Hero's will (if that one even had one).
2.Since the dark knight branch was thoroughly redone, do I still need the mastery books for these new skills or will the skill cap transfer over?
3.Is the stronghold still the best place to grind until eternity?
4.I glanced over the skills a few times and is stance really at 100% now and passive? That's huge!
5.How are bosses nowadays?
6.I see pictures all the time of max damage characters just solo'ing everything it seems. Are these the top 1%'s or is it easier to hit the damage cap now?
7.Similarly, have guilds gotten more useful?
8.It also looks like dark knights have a lot of room to max out skills. Is this a suitable one to follow up with?
9.Is there still an hp cap? Way back I remember 30k before hyper body but I can't recall off the top of my head it ever changing?
10.I guess most importantly, do people still play/enjoy the game?

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1.Iliad in Leafre and the potion seller in Henesys now sell generic Mastery Book 20 for 3m and 30 for 5m that works on all skills.
2.Some skills were carried over, some were not.
3.It's not Hall of Honor anymore, but First/Second Drill Hall, as of now. The new patch this week should bring a new training grounds, however.
4.Yes.
5.The difficulty gap between middle difficulty and high difficulty bosses is way too high. The easy bosses are just incredibly easy, and the hard bosses are really hard.
6.Yes, but that's what it takes to boss efficiently these days.
7.In regards to boss partying, sort of. It'd take a lot to explain how boss loots work now. Guild skills have good utility though.
8.All your skills are maxed by 140. Hyper skills are also pretty self explanatory, but you can ask if you have any questions.
9.The HP cap is now 500k.
10.Some do, some don't. It's up to you if you enjoy it.

Also, if you're new here, post in the Amherst section to introduce yourself, we don't bite :chin:

Cool guys. Thanks for the quick refresher. I bet I'll have a million more questions but this should get me started. Glad to hear that those books are relatively cheap and cant fail. I'm guessing normal mastery books I might have laying around have depreciated in value :wink:.

Edit: Got some more replies coming in as I was pondering my "lengthy" reply.
Tecul1> That's a tad disappointing about the boss difficulty. Some of my best memories were guilding against cZak and chaos HT when those came out. Hyper skills sound straight forward enough.

I did have an account previously (Surtr322), but couldn't remember the password. Email was setup for my school mail which is gone forever :(.

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http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStor...80.html#001021

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R.I.P. Basil Market guides.

Only current guide I found is Ayumilove's, and I'm stuck with skillpoints I don't recall why I kept. Like I'm at 29 on one skill, with 134 points extra. :f3:

I'm also at 140 now, which adds even more skills to deal with. >.>

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R.I.P. Basil Market guides.

Only current guide I found is Ayumilove's, and I'm stuck with skillpoints I don't recall why I kept. Like I'm at 29 on one skill, with 134 points extra. :f3:

I'm also at 140 now, which adds even more skills to deal with. >.>

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If you're 140 you should have enough SP to max every 4th job skill. No need for any guides anymore.

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R.I.P. Basil Market guides.

Only current guide I found is Ayumilove's, and I'm stuck with skillpoints I don't recall why I kept. Like I'm at 29 on one skill, with 134 points extra. :f3:

I'm also at 140 now, which adds even more skills to deal with. >.>

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i REALLY need to update my guide, now would be great since i'm on vacation but since maple won't even open for me (nor the nexon site) i can't do jack ._.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...Guide-280.html

i actually didn't remember/know, you actually get to max all your skills by 140 now? if that's so you don't need the guide much but either way there it is.

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Originally Posted by ShinkuDragon

i REALLY need to update my guide, now would be great since i'm on vacation but since maple won't even open for me (nor the nexon site) i can't do jack ._.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...Guide-280.html

i actually didn't remember/know, you actually get to max all your skills by 140 now? if that's so you don't need the guide much but either way there it is.

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Yes. In one of those "yet another hint 5th job is right around the corner" updates, they made it so you get all your 4th job SP by 140, and it is enough to max all skills. Still got to buy the books, though (unless you're a Cygnus Knight), so people with very low funds might still benefit from a guide telling them which skills are more useful than others.

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Originally Posted by SaptaZapta

Yes. In one of those "yet another hint 5th job is right around the corner" updates, they made it so you get all your 4th job SP by 140, and it is enough to max all skills. Still got to buy the books, though (unless you're a Cygnus Knight), so people with very low funds might still benefit from a guide telling them which skills are more useful than others.

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ooh yea now i remember that, i remember people still had to buy the books but forgot that everything was reduced to level 140 (because that's a LOT of SP compression when before it took over 80 to max) thanks a lot.