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2011-06-15, 03:14 PM
Fiel

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Originally Posted by Suber

Wait so if a VIP equip has 12% 12% 12% right now, it'll change to 9% 9% 9% after chaos patch? :f6:, I just thought after chaos you wouldn't be able to cube to 4th tier anymore and items cubed before chaos wouldnt be effected.

Nope.avi

They're stored as references in the database. They should be changed to 9% 9% 9%.
2011-06-15, 03:18 PM
Suber

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Originally Posted by Fiel

Nope.avi

They're stored as references in the database. They should be changed to 9% 9% 9%.

Oh crap. LOL, I can see so many people upset the day of Chaos. Can't wait.
2011-06-15, 03:19 PM
FenixR

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Originally Posted by Fenne

Not in denial, I just never assumed they would essentially flat out con thousands of people. That's pretty bad to release a high-end event, basically catered towards your more serious crowd, and then later down the road make everything obsolete.

If only we didn't recieve these patches from Kms... If only Kms ever had the Alien Pq... If only... no?

Kms did these because they did not had any 120+ equipment before they released chaos, and when they released it they thought that 4 tier was plain OP, so they changed since it would not harm anyone because they werent any 4tier potential equipment.

Btw: THAT POLEARM IS PLAIN BROKEN!!! PLAIN!!! BROKEN!!!
2011-06-15, 03:19 PM
Sarah

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiel

Nope.avi

They're stored as references in the database. They should be changed to 9% 9% 9%.

If I have an 8% item would it be changed to 6%? (My e-wand)
2011-06-15, 03:19 PM
PeePeeAyeDeeKay

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Originally Posted by darkmonkey13

OH SHI-
Well, this is a patch for arans, after all.
One would just hope that they would do that for all PA's, not just one, if this is intentional (possibly a mistake by nexon?).

We'll see, it's still possible for them to change it when the patch goes live, as well as at any time.

If they made all PAs fast, then spears would become useless(unless Resistance Warrior uses them?)... I prefer PA myself, but still..
I'd rather have them replace Berserk's +20 Movement speed with +1/2 attack speed, and give +1/2 attack speed on either Cleaving Blow or Sudden Strike for Aran..
2011-06-15, 03:23 PM
FenixR

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeePeeAyeDeeKay

We'll see, it's still possible for them to change it when the patch goes live, as well as at any time.

If they made all PAs fast, then spears would become useless(unless Resistance Warrior uses them?)... I prefer PA myself, but still..
I'd rather have them replace Berserk's +20 Movement speed with +1/2 attack speed, and give +1/2 attack speed on either Cleaving Blow or Sudden Strike for Aran..

If they did this... There would be no reason to be any warrior except a DK or Aran >.>. The joke of the polearm/spear was slow speed with high attack and multiplier... But who cares im just rating here about nexon screwing balance again so mehhh.
2011-06-15, 03:24 PM
Fiel

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Originally Posted by Sarah

If I have an 8% item would it be changed to 6%? (My e-wand)

If you have a potential equip with 4th tier stats it will be reduced to 3rd tier stats. If it's still 3rd tier, no change.
2011-06-15, 03:30 PM
Xakris

Is there ay way to find maps where the Tespia Helper and Havefun npcs are?
2011-06-15, 03:37 PM
ShinkuDragon

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Originally Posted by dante9898

If they did this... There would be no reason to be any warrior except a DK or Aran >.>. The joke of the polearm/spear was slow speed with high attack and multiplier... But who cares im just rating here about nexon screwing balance again so mehhh.

the dex requirement and overall is what un-breaks it a bit, but still, since these are drops, i am gonna assume you can get 126 w.attk:

126
+70 from the anniv scrolls:
196 UNENHANCED!
+4 from enhance number one
200 (s)
add 7 (+5) enhances for 35 w.attk more:

235 w.attk fast five polearm

http://i45.tinypic.com/2zzndqg.jpg

there is no reaction image capable of expressing MY FACE at this point
2011-06-15, 03:46 PM
FenixR

Dex requirement doesn't "Un-Break" it because nexon in the first place didn't want Statless classes rampaging all over. That they did absolutly nothing after they started appearing its another thing.

I just keep going in my happy world that they did a silly mistake in the TESPIA server and when those came in the live server it will come as it should be... Otherwise i would really not regret leaving maple for DFO right now >.>.
2011-06-15, 03:48 PM
darkmonkey13

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Originally Posted by ShinkuDragon

the dex requirement and overall is what un-breaks it a bit, but still, since these are drops, i am gonna assume you can get 126 w.attk:

126
+70 from the anniv scrolls:
196 UNENHANCED!
+4 from enhance number one
200 (s)
add 7 (+5) enhances for 35 w.attk more:

235 w.attk fast five polearm

http://i45.tinypic.com/2zzndqg.jpg

there is no reaction image capable of expressing MY FACE at this point

And without randomizing stats from Blacksmithing, Hammers, or Potential.
2011-06-15, 03:57 PM
ShinkuDragon

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Originally Posted by darkmonkey13

And without randomizing stats from Blacksmithing, Hammers, or Potential.

i counted two hammers in there, and you getting lucky on getting a 4 above average weapon. gonna be hard...
2011-06-15, 04:30 PM
darkmonkey13

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Originally Posted by ShinkuDragon

i counted two hammers in there, and you getting lucky on getting a 4 above average weapon. gonna be hard...

Didn't realize that, thanks.
2011-06-15, 04:33 PM
shouri

So better expected would be 122 (base)+9*5 (50%s)+4(?)(100% enhance) = 171 fast 5 PA
2011-06-15, 04:35 PM
ShinkuDragon

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Originally Posted by shouri

So better expected would be 122 (base)+9*5 (50%s)+4(?)(100% enhance) = 171 fast 5 PA

tha "average" aka: perfected with +5 scrolls, would be that, yes. but you missed one +5 scroll, since these weapons have 8 slots (+2) unlike normal weapons which have 7(+2)
so 176
2011-06-15, 04:37 PM
Stereo

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Originally Posted by rattown

but its not really 30 str lost ... because the full set ends up giving it back and then some. I'm guessing this is nexons way of saying ... no more dexless.

So what does level 140 gear look like on my NL, anyway?
46 base + 129 = 175 dex (42 will be retained with 140 gear, the other 87 is getting upgraded)
Replace 5 dex glove with 16 dex level 140 glove (requires 170 dex, which is okay cause I'll have 170) -> 186 dex.
Replace 3 dex claw with 20 dex claw (requires 170 dex, which is okay cause I'll have 183) -> 203 dex.
Replace 9 dex boots with 15 dex boots (requires 170 dex, which is okay cause I'll have 194) -> 209 dex.
Replace 26 dex top+bottom with 30 dex overall (requires 170 dex, which is okay cause I'll have 183) -> 213 dex.
Replace 24 dex helm with 25 dex helm (requires 170 dex, which is okay cause I'll have 189) -> 214+20 = 234 dex. Set bonus \o/
Replace 10 dex cape with 7 dex cape (requires no dex, no problem) -> 231 dex.

So at 46 base I'll have 231 total. If I had a couple better dex equips to start with, I could have started at less than 170. It should theoretically be possible to have 200 total dex (15+185), the minimum necessary to equip every item of the 140 set.

I did the replacement order because that's the order they'll be useful to me - I'll try to obtain the glove first, claw second, etc.

Practically speaking I have 50 base dex so I've got no issues equipping this stuff.
2011-06-15, 04:39 PM
RIPGobies

So now that we know about 4th tier being gone for good, can we talk about the Spectrum goggles myth? Everyone said lvl 70 equips will become 3rd tier. Is there any truth to that?
2011-06-15, 04:40 PM
PirateIzzy

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Originally Posted by RIPGobies

So now that we know about 4th tier being gone for good, can we talk about the Spectrum goggles myth? Everyone said lvl 70 equips will become 3rd tier. Is there any truth to that?

It's a lie.
2011-06-15, 04:42 PM
ShinkuDragon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stereo

So what does level 140 gear look like on my NL, anyway?
46 base + 129 = 175 dex
Replace 5 dex glove with 16 dex level 140 glove (requires 170 dex, which is okay cause I'll have 170) -> 186 dex.
Replace 3 dex claw with 20 dex claw (requires 170 dex, which is okay cause I'll have 183) -> 203 dex.
Replace 9 dex boots with 15 dex boots (requires 170 dex, which is okay cause I'll have 194) -> 209 dex.
Replace 26 dex top+bottom with 30 dex overall (requires 170 dex, which is okay cause I'll have 183) -> 213 dex.
Replace 24 dex helm with 25 dex helm (requires 170 dex, which is okay cause I'll have 189) -> 214+20 = 234 dex. Set bonus \o/
Replace 10 dex cape with 7 dex cape (requires no dex, no problem) -> 231 dex.

So at 46 base I'll have 231 total. If I had a couple better dex equips to start with, I could have started at less than 170. It should theoretically be possible to have 200 total dex (15+185), the minimum necessary to equip every item of the 140 set.

I did the replacement order because that's the order they'll be useful to me - I'll try to obtain the glove first, claw second, etc.

Practically speaking I have 50 base dex so I've got no issues equipping this stuff.

thank you for proving my point xD
2011-06-15, 04:43 PM
RIPGobies

By the way I find it hilarious people are planning their level 140 gear already as if the Empress is this easily defeated. You need dream stones last I remember and Empress from what it looks like is harder than Pink Bean.

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