I'm not sure if this has been asked or answered, but how much HP exactly does an Aran gain per AP point?
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I'm not sure if this has been asked or answered, but how much HP exactly does an Aran gain per AP point?
it has been asked many times, since we have very limited amount of people who come here playing, and none washing their aran's that i know of, its speculation at this point. They seem to gain 40-42 ish points per level, which would be a good estimate for points per AP(typically points per AP is minimum amount, so you could expect maybe 38 at lowest?) and for mp they gain 4-8 per level, so loss per wash would be ~8 mp.Quote:
Originally Posted by AngryFungus
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Originally Posted by Sivrat
I got between 30-34 points per AP I put into HP on MSEA. I only did 5 but it's enough to say 38 isn't the minimum :goggle:
Maybe you could PM Ezkilla on the board here. They Washed 300ap and have 17,xxx base hp at around lv 170.
I heard that the Aran release is being delayed. Is that true? (no longer the 9th?)
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyber Akuma
Whats the dif in (7) slow to (6) normal?
I know 6 to 8 is 12% different.
6 to 7 is about 5% I think, but Aran skills are probably not the same speed as DK skills so it's hard to judge.
Well hopefully I can use my just scrolled 118eclipse to good use before I get a arcglaive or surfboard. And thanks for your help. Now I need to find some arcglaives in kradia.
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/l.../Maple0331.jpg
Can this be an end game Aran weapon considering it's normal speed?
You'd easily outdamage someone with a 13x attack slow-speed polearm with that, so yes. Pretty sexy, if I do say so myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikachu
How much would an 87 clean Maple Snowboard compare with? It's also normal attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amphigory
I may be wrong but for blood board I got around 125atk slow 8.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikachu
Maple snowboard ~98atk slow 8
Assuming GMS accounts get an extra slot for Arans just like MSEA and KMS, do you lose that slot when you create an Aran and delete it, and then making a new Aran? I'm planning to get my Aran to level 10 and try my luck with the Amoria Hair Quest till I get the hairtype I want. But if I can't delete my Aran without being able to make a new one, I'll stick at the normal hair. =)
Like the KoC, the character slot is there to stay, no matter what you use it for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yokuyin
I currently have a 124 att Zedbug. How much attack would I need on a normal speed Polearm to match that? I have an 87 att clean White Mop, which I bought because I passed a 30% on an 86 clean one and then failed 2 more 30% and 2 60% on it and gave up. :f7:
Why didn't you guys consider Super Snowboards? Fast attack speed, 85 W.Atk, level 50, plus the bonus 20 speed. Pretty sick, if you ask me.
They are hard as pineapple to get, that's why. But if we get one, sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by bio9205
Still looking for an answer to my comparison question.
Up the roofs now, super hard to get. I exploded one about 5 months ago. I regret it dearly now.Quote:
Originally Posted by bio9205
Super Snowboards in GMS have W.Atk of around 70-80. I've seen as low as 68.Quote:
Originally Posted by bio9205
How many slot increases at job advance do Aran get?
@ above
I'm pretty sure it's the same as all adventurers. Ask Grapist/4th Arans for confirmation though :x.
My question:
What should I keep my base dex at with the equips listed below, and what should I upgrade on assuming I have 300mil in funding?
15STR/23DEX/15INT/14LUK +18 accuracy Zakum helmet
9DEX 3LUK Earrings
10 STR shirt
15 DEX +3 accuracy pants
2 w.atk 6 dex PAC
14w.atk WG
7 Dex Rat Mouth
Deputy Star
1STR/2DEX/1INT/2LUK Glasses
13 dex sandals
113/18 Blood Snowboard
Sell that rat mouth then you can go 4dex easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikachu
Its not worth 7dex for like 800m depending on hammer or not.
If not then its still possible to go 4dex with 300m.
Ill tell you what to upgrade tomorrow gotta sleep.
Sorry, I don't know. I never really cared enough to check.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chameleonic
I "think" it works similar to swords and stuff, and 1 weapon speed is like 10~ attackQuote:
Originally Posted by DualReaver
Maspan would know for sure and some other people, but I think he posted saying
clean purp surfboard (Fast 5) (93~) is around 12x zedbug (Slow 8)
And pretty sure he said a clean arcglaive (Normal 6) is also around a 12x zedbug
So that 124 zedbug is prolly like 100~104 normal 6
*Just guesses, get a 2nd opinion, but i'm sure my numbers aren't that far off from the true values
It's not a constant w.atk, it depends what other gear you have and all.
On my DK, 124 Zedbug ~ 105 Normal weapon with Warrior Elixirs (174 vs. 155 total atk), 124 Zedbug ~ 92 Normal weapon with Apples (262 vs 230 total atk).
TBH there's a good reason people make a fuss over the Normal speed. I've seen Arcglaives up to 107 clean, which would definitely be better than the Zedbug. A 122 Arcglaive beats a mid 14x attack Slow weapon easily, so will basically any purple surfboard that's not bombed (110+)
Looks like I'll be needing a Bucc to train with to stand a chance here. I only made the Zedbug for the fact that it cost me a total of 20m to make a 124 attack one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stereo
I'm not good at choosing equips for warriors, therefore, could you please tell me what do I need to upgrade for my future Aran?
15/16/17/15 8 slots Zakum Helmet
14 DEX earrings
1 STR 1 DEX Spectrum Goggles
10 DEX 4 Attack Pac
15 ATK SCG
7 ATK Witch's Purple Belt
5 DEX 2 Attack Facestompers
.. and a Circle of Ancient Strenght. :f6:
So? Do you think I should try getting a STR Top and a DEX Bottom? If yes, which ones?
Also, should I try getting a STR cape or is the 10 DEX one good anyway?
It's double hammered, but the thing is I need my 7 dex rat mouth as I'm still playing my hermit and bandit. Both need that dex boost.Quote:
Originally Posted by StormMike
If you have the money try and scroll yourself a good makered str top, throwing in some accuracy stuff on both the top and bottom if you need it. Assuming you're going dexless that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Combattente
keep the str cape. your gear is pretty decent. i wish witch belts were tradable between accounts otherwise id both karmaing my 9 atk one from my main but its not worth the hassle, (my arans going on a lvl 200 account anyway for a 20 atk boost)
i found the best board would proly be a perfect base super snowboard at 85?atk, perfectly scrolled for 130 at a fast (5) speed. the dps u would have is just nuts. then again its rarity is off the charts as well
oh and does anyone remember crimson arcglaives require 80 DEX to wear?
lmao
the next perfect weapon would probly be a godly heavenly messenger with a speed of 6, and 90 base atk it could go up to 135. after that a crismon arcglaive if you can manage the 80 dex requirement to wear it.
i spose its all dependent on whether or not Arans can cwkpq. or people wanna use dex overalls and stuff.
Purple surfboard with speed(5) and 99 average atk is probably the best weapon... but even rarer than a super snowboard.
Arcglaive's 17 higher base atk makes it definitely better than a Heavenly Messenger. It's not like 80 dex is even worth 17 atk, let alone how much dex you'd need to add once you factor in dex gear (my Paladin has +64 dex for example, and I have a clean ZHelm and shoes scrolled for speed)
Sorry if this was asked before, but after maxing triple swing, combo smash, and 19 mastery, do you guys go body pressure or drain? And, please tell me why you picked your choice ( benefits ).
It doesn't matter. I went Combo Drain personally, because it saved a lot of pots. After, I did Body Pressure, then finally Final Take.
I can't speak for 3rd job, but unless you train at really hard hitting mobs, Drain will let you train potless through all of 2nd job. I got it to a usable level in my early 50s, and maxed at 58/59. <3
Got one in the Rush skill (I use it more for movement than anything else), and went on to Body Pressure.
My question,
For arans, how much slots for 200lvl aran npc:s there is? Is it like just one or full map(s) like for cygnus?
Hey guys, how useful is Whirlwind exactly? I still see Fenrir Phantom getting more use than it, so would dump points before Final Take go into that?
Silly question here...
For combo smash, is it "down + right + attack"
or "down + front + attack" (so if facing left, left)
Whatever side you're facing.
So left would be 'down + left + attack', and for right it would be 'down + right + attack'.
There is a whole map. It's basically just like the first map of the Cygnus one. It has the 3 podiums at the bottom then I think 2 or 3 rows above that. There is just 1 map. Last time I looked there was someone on the 2nd podium but no one else in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Satellite
You can do it in any direction. If you are facing right and you press left your character will turn to face the left then use the attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkmaniak
I don't know if this has been answered but how do you get that level 30 polearm (For Arans only)? On Basil it's a pre-aran quest.
From what I've seen and my personal opinion: not very much. I'd rather push monsters to one side with Final Take. What use there is to pushing monsters into both sides? It's not a good finisher, and you'll ruin your combo. Personally i'd skip that skill (or get it to lvl 10, I think full swing double and full swing triple is one skill, which leaves 10 points to Whirlwind)Quote:
Originally Posted by Infection
Max booster then point the remaining points in final take and whirlwind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blup
I have absolutely no high lvl Aran experience, but would having those spare points in 3rd job being put into Final take and booster better than in whirlwind? (whirlwind seems useless...)
Never trust info at basilmarket. I made pre-quests and got nothing but exp...Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikachu
ok, here is a question, i have a 99 attack white mop(forget the str) and a 108 atk eclipse, forgot str aswell(cant log in and check atm). Which would be better? IDK the difference between normal and slow(7) so.
The Eclipse is probably better, it depends if Aran attacks follow the same speeds as DKs though. My 104 Normal weapon is about as good as a 111 Slow(7) afaik which is only 7 atk difference.
So Smart KB...
If it doesn't work on bosses, what's the point? I mean, I know that whirlwind skill is worthless, but isn't Smart KB nigh useless if it doesn't work on bosses?
0% chance of a monster with magic attack hitting you is really nice. Really really low % chance of a monster hitting you with a magic attack is really nice.
Not to mention arans power goes down way too much when dealing with 12 mobs. Enough where it goes below a monsters KB.
Does Final Toss work on mobile bosses?
Such as Anego?
Question...I'm not exactly rich and I don't have a high leveled main, so what amount of dex should I go for? (Atleast until I make enough cash to get equips with +x dex)
NoQuote:
Originally Posted by Rei
Ew, then what the hell.
What's going to survive long enough for a decent juggle?
I guess I'll wait until there's another glitched mob that lacks the boss tag.
Snipe. Mortal Blow. Shadow Web. Poison Mist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rei
Remember on large mobs you'll be doing a lot less damage, and with super KB you hardly need to do anything to keep them in the air (1000 for Chief Oblivion Guardians) so it's useful early on.
My Paladin would do well on stronger mobs too... the strongest Holy monster in the game I can 2hko at 13x (not counting Crimson Balrogs who don't spawn fast enough to train on). What's the use of Holy Hammer then? >_>
What's more important to max on 1st job - Combat Step or Booster? Or do you put equal amounts into both?
16 Booster and max Combat Step.
Alright, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Infection
Ahhhhhhhhhh-Rahhn is my wayQuote:
Originally Posted by Kigaz
Like people said before - on large mobs you're doing alot less dmg.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rei
also not all of us are so strong to kill anything in two hits :goggle:
i like the idea of mobs unable to hit me, and me having to WORK for it. (juggle, lure, keep attacking properly.)
i'm so going to play my aran with a gamepad, it'll give me differend experience hopefully :f3:
How does gamepad activate PA Booster, SmartKB n other buffs?
When fetching combo medals do you need to go at 50, 200, and 500, or will just getting 500 net you all three?
Getting 500 will net you all 3, but you only need the 500 one.
I know, I just like collecting Medals. xd
Anyone can confirm whether rings are bound to the Aran character (they are deleted when you delete the Aran, even on other characters)?
http://i45.tinypic.com/30j41ok.jpg
All three at once. :o
*knows question will be asked again*
So apparently you do trade in the rings when as you level, but if you level 3 Aran, one to 70 one to 50 and one to 30, will you get them again and be able to transfer them?
Is anyone going to make an Aran training guide? Is there already one and I just cant see it? Or just use the warrior one even though Arans train differently with different skills?
Hi everyone, havent posted in SP for a long while lol,
my question is, how much base dex would you suggest for a new unfunded aran at the new world?
Thanks
30 ~ 40.Quote:
Originally Posted by itay
http://forums.asiasoftsea.net/showthread.php?t=682782Quote:
Originally Posted by Chameleonic
http://ayumilovemaple.wordpress.com/...s-skill-build/
I think we should all compile what we found were the best training spots for certain levels.
like for instance from
1-22 quests and mush mini dungeon
22-30 i found sahel2 amazing exp
30+ mutaes (getting 165% an hour at 33)
where to get the z mush doll, i been at ant tunnel 3 for over an hour and nothing. or is it just rare as pineapple?
Apparently the rarest one to get. Make sure you're killing the Annoyed zmush.Quote:
Originally Posted by XBish
there are like 3 of them in any given map. is there a good map for them or are they all crap?
just got it from a normal z mush. i guess they do exist
ant tunnel IVQuote:
Originally Posted by XBish
go top>bottom then cc, rinse repeat
About how many points in HP is needed to have ~18k HP at 180?
250-300?
What drops "Annoyed Zombie Doll"?
After about an hour in AT, over 400 horny mushies dead, I have yet to find one from Zombie or annoyed Zombie mushies.
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They drop only from the Annoyed ones. I killed like 2 right outside of the mini-dungeon and got it. ;xQuote:
Originally Posted by Hazzy
I'd say roughly 240-260 washes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rei
Fast 5 is so fast. I dont know how I can ever switch to anything slower.
At which level levels does the speed increases of Polearm Booster? I heard a rumour that you get +3 speed at level 20, and that it's different in other versions of MS.
If the rumour is true, are there other skills which are different in other versions?
Level 1, 11, and 15. I'm not really sure why.
Should be 1, 8, and 15 unless GMS changed it for whatever reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stereo
Indeed it is.
Spoiler
Are there any places where Smart KB will be vitally important, or is it one of those skills that's nice to have but not necessary?
Mobby places with high knock back...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kitteh
Say a mob or 10-12 Chief Oblivion guards, your damage goes down on big mobs so you can't knock them back easily, but with smart KB you can knock back the mob making them unable to use magic, and with body pressure they can't touch you either!
use booster mans!!Quote:
Originally Posted by StormMike
:goggle:Quote:
Originally Posted by ¥-Striker-¥
Quoted in case he realizes how dumb that was and decides to edit it later.
I do use booster. Im just saying fast 5 weps.Quote:
Originally Posted by ¥-Striker-¥
Guys what early skills get replaced by 3rd or 4th job? ...I really want to max final charge but I don't know what skills to sacrifice.
I want to be able to do this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcpoY...eature=related
and it seems final charge is one of her main skills.
:eek:
No skills really get replaced. Double/Triple Swing gets upgraded once at third job and again at fourth.
If you really want to max Final Charge you can take points out of Whirlwind, Final Toss, and keep Booster at 15/16.
And iirc, that video was before they changed Smart Knockback to be useless against bosses. If Smart KB isn't what she's ulitizing in the video, then you should be able to do that regardless of your level of Final Charge.
Such a sadist, Dusk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dusk
Anyway, how much DEX do I need for a more or less throwaway char? Assume no equips at all. Right now I'm just auto assigning due to laziness (level 24, 48 DEX) but I'm wondering when to stop.
about 14 levels ago would have been nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Russt
that said whatever dex you have wont matter since its for the ring. make it 120 dex for shiats and giggles.
I think that even for someone without funds, 40 dex is enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Russt
(and not hit anything above pigs? fun.)Quote:
Originally Posted by XBish
It's not for the ring, it's for screwing around. I've no use for a ring I won't use.
But okay, I guess I'll stop.
Unless the Aran is on its own account you can hit a lot more than pigs without ever adding dex :| And with no funding you're not gonna want to head to Stormbreakers early or anything (even Mutae are kinda a pot burn) so I don't see the point of high dex.
Are Gryphons still a great spot? I have many dislikes toward MP3 Idiots :f3:
Maybe a silly question.
In 2nd job, it seems the fastest way to train is to get your combo up to 30 as fast as possible and then Smash the largest amount of mobs possible.
For 3rd, is it more like the 4th job videos I've seen where you just try to keep your combo as high as possible, or do you still use combo attacks like in 2nd? Considering that Fenrir is maxed much later in most of the 3rd job builds I've seen, I'm guessing it's the former.
Not really.Quote:
Originally Posted by CarpeDiem
In 2nd job, smashing everything is only fast until you get final charge. On a flat map, final charging across the map back and forth is faster than gathering the mob and smashing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kitteh
In 3rd the fastest way is to keep your combo up but that only really matters once you get a decent level of combo crit.
i just normal wack monster + final charge in 3rd job even when my combo reach 100++ coz of the critical and damage bonus. i only use fenrir when there's more than 10 monsters with 100% hp in front of me.