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For all you Dark Knights out there - Tuke - 2008-07-09
Aura, for sure, it helps you keep berserk up, which would help you in your training.
Achilles is only useful at bosses, and well... you don't level up by bossing with a DrK.
For all you Dark Knights out there - Wani - 2008-07-09
Tuke Wrote:Aura, for sure, it helps you keep berserk up, which would help you in your training.
Achilles is only useful at bosses, and well... you don't level up by bossing with a DrK.
Too bad bosses are the only places you get parties as a DrK D:
For all you Dark Knights out there - ThisIsSal - 2008-07-09
odd, in mardia drks are generally the most partied warriors.
most of the higher level ones have consistent trainin partners.
For all you Dark Knights out there - HiiEN - 2008-07-09
Only if you deal a good enough output are you considered good enough for a party. Otherwise people would rather have HB mules lol.
For all you Dark Knights out there - TLeviathan - 2008-07-10
HiiEN Wrote:Only if you deal a good enough output are you considered good enough for a party. Otherwise people would rather have HB mules lol.
A 2hko'ing DK should be fine for partying (this isn't very hard to get, really, as most who berserk at 150 should do this). Before then, yea you might have trouble but when you 2hko the only thing holding you back is preconceived bias. Aura is going to help you berserk more than achilles is (esp. by 150) and will help you keep your damage within "party acceptable" ranges.
For all you Dark Knights out there - HiiEN - 2008-07-10
If you can prove that you can 2hko easy then it's easy to get into a party. Anything less than that significantly lowers the rate. If you can't 2hko you're better off killing himes until you can or until you can pull enough points and money together for berserk.
Additionally, Achilles wasn't made to support Berserk. I believe it was specifically made for bossing only. I suppose Aura is a better investment in the earlier levels, supporting Berserk or not since it provides a better benefit in training.
For all you Dark Knights out there - Hana - 2008-07-10
If I still played my DK, I would go for healer.
For all you Dark Knights out there - Nesso - 2008-07-12
I went with Achilles, and I haven't given any doubt to whether or not I made the right decision. Skelegon blasts normall hit me for around 3300. With 20 into Achilles, it drops to 3000, give or take. It's very easy to stay in the threshold when your damage can easily be potted. Achilles just makes Beserk so much more easier to manage, I couldn't possibly think about going without it.
And then there's the whole bossing aspect but that's unimportant.
For all you Dark Knights out there - AlterWolfie - 2008-07-13
I had maxed aura I think, and it was very helpful in training with berserk even in 13x. You still obviously had to stay on top of things, but it made the potting much more constant, as opposed to having to having the HP flucuate quite so much.
-AlterWolfie, who liked not having the 'if I pot I'm out of berserk, but if I don't pot I'm gonna die' situation quite so often.
For all you Dark Knights out there - RFSurg - 2008-07-13
One thing I've heard about achilles is that, if you have max berserk, you can't use a 40% pot after 1/1 and still be zerked if your achilles blocks more than 4.5% damage.
For all you Dark Knights out there - HiiEN - 2008-07-13
RFSurg Wrote:One thing I've heard about achilles is that, if you have max berserk, you can't use a 40% pot after 1/1 and still be zerked if your achilles blocks more than 4.5% damage.That's assuming you're using berserk at bosses.
For all you Dark Knights out there - RFSurg - 2008-07-13
Why wouldn't you? At Zak/Pap/Pianus, the worst damage you'll take is less than or slightly more than the most a skele can do and your DPS is much higher with zerk.
For all you Dark Knights out there - solid_ice8 - 2008-07-13
according to what fiel has told me back on sw forum
if you have 10k hp with lv15 archilles
and you get hit with 1/1, you have 750 hp remaining
so, thats 1500 hp with max archilles
when you have 30k hp, you'll have 4500 hp from 1/1
4.5k hp from 1/1, thats alot more helpful than 500 hp/4sec
For all you Dark Knights out there - AlterWolfie - 2008-07-13
solid_ice8 Wrote:according to what fiel has told me back on sw forum
if you have 10k hp with lv15 archilles
and you get hit with 1/1, you have 750 hp remaining
so, thats 1500 hp with max archilles
when you have 30k hp, you'll have 4500 hp from 1/1
4.5k hp from 1/1, thats alot more helpful than 500 hp/4sec
Well, by the time you have 30k HP, you probably can easily have both. The question is which one to get first?.
-AlterWolfie, who thinks that you're under-estimating 500hp/4sec.
For all you Dark Knights out there - Wani - 2008-07-13
For bosses, yes, I could see why achilles is better, but think about training. L25 achilles is 12.5% damage reduction. On skeles, they do 3300 damage, that's saving about 410 HP a hit. It's easy enough to only get hit every 4 seconds, since if you're getting hit more than that, you're probably taking the smaller touch damage, so 500 HP > 410 HP.
For all you Dark Knights out there - HayO - 2008-07-14
The whole achilles thing wasnt clear to me since a while ago I thought you would actually see the 'less' dmg you take when you get hit and when you got 1/1 you would have the % of achilles left of your MAX HP but than I heared its from the HP you got at the moment you got 1/1'd. If thats true then lets say I'd have serk30 means 10k hp to stay below than I think I should be able to use those 40% pots on 1/1. Still I dont regret getting Aura before Achilles cause it actually helps alot like some allready said.
For all you Dark Knights out there - Xelstyle - 2008-07-15
Well there isn't much more I can add to what's been said multiple times. xD
New question I guess:
How useful is Hex to you guys?
Besides the whole "Cancels out apple thing".
For all you Dark Knights out there - ThisIsSal - 2008-07-15
I have 15 or 18 aura now and i love it, saves me a shitload of worry at skeles.
can't wait for higher levels of it.
For all you Dark Knights out there - HiiEN - 2008-07-15
Xelstyle Wrote:Well there isn't much more I can add to what's been said multiple times. xDAlthough that'd be hijacking the thread, I'll give you my input.
New question I guess:
How useful is Hex to you guys?
Besides the whole "Cancels out apple thing".
I don't think it's useful unless you plan on stopping it at level 20. Overall, I wouldn't use it until it was the very last skill.
For all you Dark Knights out there - Xelstyle - 2008-07-15
HiiEN Wrote:Although that'd be hijacking the thread, I'll give you my input.
I don't think it's useful unless you plan on stopping it at level 20. Overall, I wouldn't use it until it was the very last skill.
I apologize for doing so, but it did seem like there was a unified answer to your question.