what would u do if your friend gets credited for your work?

Ok, here's what happened.

Last week, my friend who takes art have to create some kind of art related to shapes. I'm not exactly sure about the criteria. He asked me about it, and I suggested him to write a computer program that have shapes floating around. He's not really good at computer science although he takes it too. I then ended up writing the program for him. It was quite easy, took me only 30 min or so. The program is not that great, it just have 10 rectangle, trapezoid, parallelogram, diamonds with different color, moving at different speed, and in different motion. I basically write a process for 1 shape, and then copy/paste the whole process except change the drawing to a different shape. and call each process 10 times. The speed and motion is at random, which is why each shape have different speed and motion.
Today when he handed in, the teacher is impressed about how much work he put into this art piece (she obviously knows nothing about computer science cause it's such a easy program to write). She said she's going to display the work at a local art museum. Now... the "artwork" is going to be displayed in an art museum with my friend's name on it.

Should i do something about it? but I don't want to screw over my friend...

Ok, here's what happened.

Last week, my friend who takes art have to create some kind of art related to shapes. I'm not exactly sure about the criteria. He asked me about it, and I suggested him to write a computer program that have shapes floating around. He's not really good at computer science although he takes it too. I then ended up writing the program for him. It was quite easy, took me only 30 min or so. The program is not that great, it just have 10 rectangle, trapezoid, parallelogram, diamonds with different color, moving at different speed, and in different motion. I basically write a process for 1 shape, and then copy/paste the whole process except change the drawing to a different shape. and call each process 10 times. The speed and motion is at random, which is why each shape have different speed and motion.
Today when he handed in, the teacher is impressed about how much work he put into this art piece (she obviously knows nothing about computer science cause it's such a easy program to write). She said she's going to display the work at a local art museum. Now... the "artwork" is going to be displayed in an art museum with my friend's name on it.

Should i do something about it? but I don't want to screw over my friend...

not sure if this is appropriate - but i suggest perhaps that you speak to the teacher in private and explain your situation, making sure to add that you do not want your friend to know. i mean it is not illegal to help your friends with assignments and such! his teacher will hopefully understand and quietly decide not to display it.

on the other hand, your friend will still have to field the questions about how he thought of it etc. he might himself feel guilty about it, and take the initiative to explain to the teacher that it is actually not all his work.

Ouch thats tough, but it sounds like he didnt ask you to do it, you did it for him, you should have known the risks, at least ask him to acknowledge that you helped him with it a bit, that way he isnt getting full credit, but you're not being a total jerk ot your friend.

Ouch thats tough, but it sounds like he didnt ask you to do it, you did it for him, you should have known the risks, at least ask him to acknowledge that you helped him with it a bit, that way he isnt getting full credit, but you're not being a total jerk ot your friend.

Totally wrong, on all accounts. That is NOT how schools see it, and all of them require you to take an oath of intellectual honesty before they let you in class. Friends don't steal from friends. You haven't screwed him over, you gave him time to get his act together, (though that was also wrong because you shouldn't have done his assignment.) He's screwed you over, because not only is he getting an A he clearly doesn't deserve, now he's looking for a resume buff using YOUR intellectual property (IP.) That's totally out of bounds.

I cheated in school once in my life, as a junior in high school. I was VERY deeply ashamed afterwards, and I considered it a rough lesson and never did it again, though I wasn't caught that one time I did it. Integrity is not an abstract characteristic that was made up by blowhard priests, rabbis and ministers. You flush THAT down the toilet, and you'll end up in a bad place. It's hard to quantify the effects of integrity, but people I am close to trust me very much precisely because I won't turn on them to make a buck. In that incident I was young and stupid; and really, like 10 years afterwards I still majorly cringe thinking about it. Like three years after that incident I was a sophomore in college, my teacher in a class left the class for like 40 minutes and EVERYONE began to cheat on the test we were taking. Someone tried to get me to answer a question. I turned around, looked her in the eyes and said "no." And completed the test knowing I had gotten one right. An essay based on that got me accepted to Georgetown university as a transfer. Georgetown transfers program had a 9% admission rate, among mostly excellent students, so this was not a small matter.

Give this person a chance to withdraw the plagiarized work from the museum. Explain to him that it is very bad to put his name on something he didn't do. If he refuses, go to his teacher right away. Explain the process that it took to make the program and what you know about the program, (which is everything about it.) Your teacher will (herself or with other teachers,) then test his ability to create similar programs, and your ability to do so. Obviously, you will succeed and he will fail. After that, at the very least he will fail the assignment, and (more likely) he will get an F in the whole class. That F will be there when he applies to college or whatever. If he keeps having friends do his assignments, that will happen anyway. Teachers nowadays have search engines as good as google specifically made to check if a work was stolen. There is a chance they'll punish YOU for having done his assignment for him. If you don't want that risk you can contact the teacher anonymously to point out the plagiarism. I personally don't know much about that part because I've never agreed to do anyone's homework for them.

Plagiarism is, put simply, the worst thing possible in artistic and scholastic endeavors. In those endeavors it's like treason in the workings of national security, because it poisons everything art and schoolwork stands for. Some people learn the hard way, so give him a chance to withdraw. But if he doesn't... he really deserves what's coming to him. He isn't taking help on an assignment anymore, he's an IP thief. Somebody once stole my Maple Story mesos. I actually consider that theft a lesser offense than if the guy would have stolen my IP, which to me personally is my livelihood.

Should i do something about it? but I don't want to screw over my friend...

That kind of a person is not a friend. He/she is a leech. A phony. He/she used you to get ahead, at your cost.

It's not good to associate with these kinds of people, no matter what BS excuses they'll try to say to woo you.

That kind of a person is not a friend. He/she is a leech. A phony. He/she used you to get ahead, at your cost.

It's not good to associate with these kinds of people, no matter what BS excuses they'll try to say to woo you.

His friend was struggling, and he wrote the program and gave it to his friend of his own accord, his friend didn't steal it, or even ask him to make it for him.

Totally wrong, on all accounts. That is NOT how schools see it, and all of them require you to take an oath of intellectual honesty before they let you in class. Friends don't steal from friends. You haven't screwed him over, you gave him time to get his act together, (though that was also wrong because you shouldn't have done his assignment.) He's screwed you over, because not only is he getting an A he clearly doesn't deserve, now he's looking for a resume buff using YOUR intellectual property (IP.) That's totally out of bounds.

His friend obviously doesn't view it like that, maybe his friend doesn't see the error in accepting someone elses work, I wasn't offering that as an end-all decision to the problem, but if he doesn't want his friend to fail, but doesn't want him to take credit for his work, I was offering it more as a compromise if his friend can withstand the moral consequences and there is no other way about it.

I would of course talk to your friend about it first, if he is okay with it, you should get credit for your work, however if you dont want to make him fail because you helped him (without his asking), you can offer the sort of compromise I mentioned prior, and tell him to go to your teacher on this, at the very least ask him to opt it out of the museum display if you do the compromise methods, and dont do your friend's work in the future, help them along perhaps with advice, but dont straight out do it without helping the education process.

His friend was struggling, and he wrote the program and gave it to his friend of his own accord, his friend didn't steal it, or even ask him to make it for him.

His friend obviously doesn't view it like that, maybe his friend doesn't see the error in accepting someone elses work, I wasn't offering that as an end-all decision to the problem, but if he doesn't want his friend to fail, but doesn't want him to take credit for his work, I was offering it more as a compromise if his friend can withstand the moral consequences and there is no other way about it.

The guy who stole my mesos didn't see it as theft either, because he's a bull$hit artist. "It's play money!" he told me. Right. So I charge 1 dollar to get 1k NX, but it's magically "play money" once he decides to steal it. I lost 500 dollars in gach to this scumbag. Friend indeed.

Of course the "friend" doesn't see it as theft. He's a thief, he doesn't feel he's wrong. That's why you shouldn't be friends with people like that. A person that uses you once will use you again. And a friend who knows the meaning of friendship won't use you at all.

Ask him to tell the teacher that you helped him, or ask him to give you credit for it. If he's been a good friend, then let it slide if he doesn't. The truth is going to come out sometime, and if they ask him to write another program, then he'll be screwed.

The guy who stole my mesos didn't see it as theft either, because he's a bull$hit artist. "It's play money!" he told me. Right. So I charge 1 dollar to get 1k NX, but it's magically "play money" once he decides to steal it. I lost 500 dollars in gach to this scumbag. Friend indeed.

Of course the "friend" doesn't see it as theft. He's a thief, he doesn't feel he's wrong. That's why you shouldn't be friends with people like that. A person that uses you once will use you again. And a friend who knows the meaning of friendship won't use you at all.

He doesnt see it as theft because the OP outright gave it to him, no asking, no prompting, if the guy asked the OP to make it for him, then I'd wholeheartedly agree, it'd be more like you giving someone mesos, then getting mad that they stole them. the OP has to raise the problem with his friend before anything else, period.

He doesnt see it as theft because the OP outright gave it to him, no asking, no prompting, if the guy asked the OP to make it for him, then I'd wholeheartedly agree, it'd be more like you giving someone mesos, then getting mad that they stole them. the OP has to raise the problem with his friend before anything else, period.

I DID say that the OP should go to the thief first. The reason the item was made was to help in this assignment. In that regard the intellectual property has been given and served its use, although even that is illegal in schools. IP is not like mesos. Giving a Sparta is not like giving IP. Giving IP formally involves a detailed contract, not just a simple in-game trade, because IP use is more potentially complicated than the simple giving of mesos or items. The analogy as you're using it is inaccurate. They had an oral contract: I give you IP for help in homework. He's gone beyond that. I mean, that's not isn't like going to a law office to sell a patented item, but the principle stands.

The OP has NOT agreed to let the guy take the stuff to a museum and parade it to the world as his own "excellence." There's all sorts of ways to refuse putting your work in a museum. If he does that and does further homework by himself, the incident is over. If he doesn't, then he deserves reprisal.

If the guy is using this program as the OP intended, why would the OP even have a problem and come here to ask about it?

Which was exactly my point, tell the friend to take it off the museum, but dont make him fail because you did something for him without his asking, you were just doing something for a friend, you deserve some consequence too. The friend does not deserve credit for it, and it should not go in the museum.

As Quantact said, if he does the rest of his work by himself then fine, but dont let it go to the museum. As a friend you should help your friends when they're in trouble, but doing the assignment for them doesn't help at all.

Though I still disagree with the term thief, thats a matter of your own personal moral agenda.

Which was exactly my point, tell the friend to take it off the museum, but dont make him fail because you did something for him without his asking, you were just doing something for a friend, you deserve some consequence too. The friend does not deserve credit for it, and it should not go in the museum.

As Quantact said, if he does the rest of his work by himself then fine, but dont let it go to the museum. As a friend you should help your friends when they're in trouble, but doing the assignment for them doesn't help at all.

Though I still disagree with the term thief, thats a matter of your own personal moral agenda.

Yeah, I think the two of us had a misunderstanding. I don't really see what I can add further to all this.

Ok, here's what happened.

Last week, my friend who takes art have to create some kind of art related to shapes. I'm not exactly sure about the criteria. He asked me about it, and I suggested him to write a computer program that have shapes floating around. He's not really good at computer science although he takes it too. I then ended up writing the program for him. It was quite easy, took me only 30 min or so. The program is not that great, it just have 10 rectangle, trapezoid, parallelogram, diamonds with different color, moving at different speed, and in different motion. I basically write a process for 1 shape, and then copy/paste the whole process except change the drawing to a different shape. and call each process 10 times. The speed and motion is at random, which is why each shape have different speed and motion.
Today when he handed in, the teacher is impressed about how much work he put into this art piece (she obviously knows nothing about computer science cause it's such a easy program to write). She said she's going to display the work at a local art museum. Now... the "artwork" is going to be displayed in an art museum with my friend's name on it.

Should i do something about it? but I don't want to screw over my friend...

from the start you decided to give the credit to your friend. dont screw him over, let it be, if there is some real life mesos involved and you feel that you deserve some of it, talk to your friend then. you made the program in order to have your friend present it as his right? then dont get greedy now and screw him over.

It's like a scenario where you made a doodle on paper then threw it away. Now someone found it, published it and is now getting money for it. You admit the program was easy to write. It hardly took much time for you; is 30 minutes -really- that important to -you-?

If it is, however you shouldn't screw him over completely just ask for a mention in the bibliography or something.

Are you familiar with this episode of The Simpsons? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaming_Moe%27s

It's not whether the thing is "easy to write." If I have a kid I could write all his history and English assignments and it would be very easy for me. The points in question are ownership and academic integrity. You're supposed to do your own work in school.

Suck it up and move on. Be the bigger man.

Obviously, you wont do that because you craved for attentions, hence why you're posting your life story here seeking attention whenever you could. The story itself sounds dubious, but if it's true, then perhaps you should be proud of yourself for creating an "artwork".

laugh and get on with my life.

myles has a point... injustice happens all the time, it could be worse.

but i still see the value in "setting the record straight," without being vengeful. if you're trying to be "the bigger man" and are instead bothered and stressing about it internally (most of us are NOT humble no matter how much we tell ourselves we are), then it's going to affect your relationship with your friend because you'll still hold a grudge against them and think you're better than your friend. that is not a true solution either.

I'll just throw this out there as an alternative. You and the friend could go to the teacher and the friend can explain that he came up with the idea and that you helped him with some coding problems that he had/did some coding clean-up for him. Hopefully the teacher will credit both of you or then decide not to display it. Depends on the teacher, I guess.

It isn't being completely honest, but it is better than doing nothing at all.