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When im bored, i tend to think, ALOT.
I think about relgion and my views on it. I was raised as a christian. Though i came to a stop when i thought, Who created God. How did the very first spec of dust, just appear? Was there ever Just Nothingness?
so i came up with my own view on religion. Half religion
basically i take most religions, and put together all similar morales, as how to live life.
I remember reading about white men taking indains land, they said we were un pure because we needed a book to tell us how to live. I just need what i know already.
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Trinity Wrote:When im bored, i tend to think, ALOT.
I think about relgion and my views on it. I was raised as a christian. Though i came to a stop when i thought, Who created God. How did the very first spec of dust, just appear? Was there ever Just Nothingness? I find myself thinking of the exact same things when I'm bored. Where did it all come from?
But like you, I was raised as a Christain. I pray to God under certain circumstances, yet sometimes I wonder if God is really there. I don't know what I believe in anymore. :<
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I've always said that as long as you're happy with what you believe in and it does no one harm, there should be no need for you to change it based off of what people say or what's told. There's no right Christian or wrong Christian, as long as they're respectful and happy about their costums. ^^
I myself was forcefully raised a Catholic, but since it wasn't my choice to take in those beliefs, I came to the point of absolutly detesting it. I'm happy as ever as a Atheist, and unlike most none-believers I don't bash other beliefs nor go against them. I've always told myself that whatever you believe, you'll eventually reach a point where you can reach your beliefs and it will be true (Ie. When you die you go to heaven, etc.).
So, if you're happy and you know it clap your hands? :3
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My mother is Christian and my father is Jewish. We celebrate Christmas and Hanukkah, some sunday's I would go to church with my mom, some saturday's I would go to Synagogue with my grandma. It was weird. I don't fully understand either religion since I never really took the time to learn it. I guess I just believe what I want.
This past week we had a death on my father's side of the family. I went to the funeral (not my first jewish funeral) and I had to ask alot of questions because I didn't understand what was going on. Maybe I never learned these things because of my parent's having separate religions. Anyways, after the funeral there was Shiva (7 days of mourning). We had a service at my cousin's house the evening of the funeral where a Rabbi came in and did a prayer service and spoke all in hebrew. It was weird to hear everyone speaking it and I knew nothing.
Makes me want to learn more and indulge myself in my dad's culture. I just believe what I want I guess. I mean, like the poster said Where did this god come from? How do people know these things actually happened? How do you know we aren't from monkeys? I seriously need a religion class in college. It seems like when I try to have a religion talk with my friends, they get all defensive and start to act stupid.
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xkatiie Wrote:Makes me want to learn more and indulge myself in my dad's culture. I just believe what I want I guess. I mean, like the poster said Where did this god come from? How do people know these things actually happened? How do you know we aren't from monkeys? I seriously need a religion class in college. It seems like when I try to have a religion talk with my friends, they get all defensive and start to act stupid.
well, well put
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Religion makes me lol.
I was born and raised by religious parents...of two different faiths. I then have family friends who are religious, of a different faith. I have friends that are also different faiths. So sometime in Middle School I started wondering, is there really an entity up there? After a year or two of soul searching I concluded that there is no god. Just us.
I live my life with morality and happiness, I don't need to believe in made up stories to find inner peace.
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Religion is pointless.
Religion diverges away from the main point:God.
I don't care about what happend thousands of years ago, todays world is completely different from then, we have our own problems to face and we can't look to any Holy Book for answers.
People have their own morals,whats right to me might not be right to someone else,so if you live morally right to your standards,I don't see a problem with it unless it harms someone else.
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Kigaz Wrote:Religion is pointless.
Religion diverges away from the main point:God.
I don't care about what happend thousands of years ago, todays world is completely different from then, we have our own problems to face and we can't look to any Holy Book for answers.
People have their own morals,whats right to me might not be right to someone else,so if you live morally right to your standards,I don't see a problem with it unless it harms someone else.
The teachings of various religions still applies today. 'Thou shall not kill' 2,000 years ago isn't suddenly wrong today. The morals and values it teaches are things that a person should live by, but religion is flawed in the sense that it tries to teach too much, many things that have already been debunked by science, thus religious scholars try to find deeper meaning behind the words to fortify the holy books in scientific literature, which will never happen. Religion is the reason why people have come together and why society and civilisation was born, but in today's age the world has many religions and our egocentric nature that 'my religion is right, yours is wrong' is what's causing today's major world conflicts, not necessarily religion itself.
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Lylac Wrote:The teachings of various religions still applies today. 'Thou shall not kill' 2,000 years ago isn't suddenly wrong today. The morals and values it teaches are things that a person should live by, but religion is flawed in the sense that it tries to teach too much, many things that have already been debunked by science, thus religious scholars try to find deeper meaning behind the words to fortify the holy books in scientific literature, which will never happen. Religion is the reason why people have come together and why society and civilisation was born, but in today's age the world has many religions and our egocentric nature that 'my religion is right, yours is wrong' is what's causing today's major world conflicts, not necessarily religion itself.
True that "thou shall not kill" still applies (though,it was more than 2,000 years ago that it was,to be literal,set in stone) but it's a pretty broad statement, if someone is going to kill me,I'd rather kill him than let him kill me.
Killing someone in any way if not in self defense has been viewed morally wrong long before religion came around
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Kigaz Wrote:True that "thou shall not kill" still applies (though,it was more than 2,000 years ago that it was,to be literal,set in stone) but it's a pretty broad statement, if someone is going to kill me,I'd rather kill him than let him kill me.
Killing someone in any way if not in self defense has been viewed morally wrong long before religion came around
Or is that a rule set by yourself due to the fact the human race has the common sense not to die? If one were truly devoted to the bible's full meaning they would just let themselves die rather than fight back as they would go to heaven if they had followed through with the prerequisites. Or is it doubt?
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religion's one of the things i tend to think about and question a lot. i wasn't really raised religiously, although my parents were raised and still consider themselves catholic, and it wasn't until we moved to a very religious area that i started to wonder about it. i went through a phase where i went to church every sunday, read the bible every night before bed, etc. but then i took a step back and realized it was all bullshit. now i consider myself agnostic although there are times when it's more of an atheistic perspective.
i don't have a problem with religious people or openly attack them or anything until it starts to defeat the purpose. if you're wrongly prejudiced against someone or something and blame it on your faith, i lose my respect for you. i find all the hypocrisy that surrounds various religions laughable. although i don't have much experience with anything other than basic christian teachings, what i've seen disgusts me. people start to take things like the bible too literally (which is very easy to do, i guess, and a lot of it is really stupid imo.) and start becoming complete hypocrites. if your god is love, love is god. you should not be doing good things because you're scared to death of going to some imaginary hell. that doesn't make you a good person. according to the bible, a person who does not believe in god and yet works their whole life doing caring things for others out of the kindness of their heart will go to hell, while some other guy would get an eternal paradise after he died just because he admitted his sins to some guy in the sky? i don't think so.
religion can be a good concept until people take it too far. to quote an amazing song, they're just "beating with a book everyone that book tells you to love."
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Raven Wrote:Or is that a rule set by yourself due to the fact the human race has the common sense not to die? If one were truly devoted to the bible's full meaning they would just let themselves die rather than fight back as they would go to heaven if they had followed through with the prerequisites. Or is it doubt?
I don't know I'm not a Christian x].
I'm willing to live until I'm ready to die, and I'm not ready to die, I have too many things to live for.
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Kigaz Wrote:True that "thou shall not kill" still applies (though,it was more than 2,000 years ago that it was,to be literal,set in stone) but it's a pretty broad statement, if someone is going to kill me,I'd rather kill him than let him kill me.
Killing someone in any way if not in self defense has been viewed morally wrong long before religion came around
It is a broad statement, yes, but then you get instances and examples in the Bible, Quran, or Torah where it is acceptable to kill, or you get the commandment of not to steal from other people. Stealing in society today is morally wrong, but it sure as hell wasn't when we were fighting to survive as hunter-gatherers hundreds of thousands of years ago, or just before organised religion emerged where the great conquerers of the world pillaged and ransacked villages for wealth. My point is that religion has set a lot of the rules that we see today, but in my opinion it has outlived its usefulness.
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I myself am a Muslim, and there's this really great line in the Qu'ran that I apply to these types of situations. It's what I live by in this time of racism and hatred and what not. The line, translated, says:
"You have your beliefs, and I have mine."
I won't call your beliefs stupid or try to convert you or anything, and niether should you to me.
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