This is just baffling
#41
Luxeraph Wrote:Didn't know that.

That was rather the point, yes.
It's not having what you want - It's wanting what you've got.
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#42
Eos Wrote:That was rather the point, yes.
:f6:Huh? That I didn't know? Didn't I ask?
Luxeraph Wrote:Just a question, KSSN are one per person, right? so there are about 45 million KSSN, how that stops hackers?
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#43
Luxeraph Wrote::f6:Huh? That I didn't know? Didn't I ask?

That you weren't getting it. Even when you were specifically told.
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#44
Eos Wrote:That you weren't getting it. Even when you were specifically told.
I was told that you needed a verification process?
RedRaven16 Wrote:Identity theft?
Eos Wrote:Because if your KSSN gets banned for hacking, every account you have is banned and you can no longer create new accounts.
It's not like the meaningless bans GMS has where your account is locked and you just go create another.
Can't see it, all I see is legal reason that I'm still not sure if they're that good hunting down people over the internet and that all accounts that tied to one KSSN get banned when one of them is banned, but if you say so.
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#45
Luxeraph Wrote:I was told that you needed a verification process?

No, you were told;

Eos Wrote:KMS can't be as abusive because the account is tied to the KSSN; GMS has no such protection. The only thing that keeps KMS from experiencing what GMS does is that minor detail that makes it all absolutely pointless for them to try.

And apparently have little to no capability to infer, make logical deductions, reach fairly basic conclusions or otherwise think for yourself and instead require everything painstakingly spelled out for you in minute detail.
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#46
Eos Wrote:Actually nearly every exploit we have is due to Wizet having fundamentally screwed up the app from the get go.

KMS can't be as abusive because the account is tied to the KSSN; GMS has no such protection. The only thing that keeps KMS from experiencing what GMS does is that minor detail that makes it all absolutely pointless for them to try.

If we didn't have that issue, the GMs wouldn't be inundated with useless crap that's the developer's fault that they may actually be able to provide decent support on the other issues.

Talking about the hacking, I agree with you, the KSSN is a big protection layer they got. But going with the fact that most bugs are dealt with pretty fast, I'm willing to say even if they didn't have KSSN, KMS would still be at better shape than GMS: Maybe it's because their development department is so close but that only helps my point that things could be much better for us if GMS didn't depend so much on Korea and had its own programmer's deparment.
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#47
Eos Wrote:No, you were told;



And apparently have little to no capability to infer, make logical deductions, reach fairly basic conclusions or otherwise think for yourself and instead require everything painstakingly spelled out for you in minute detail.

Retarded version: Korean social security number essentially links to your identity. If you pineapple up once, that piece of information will never allow you to play again. You only get one SSN, and it takes months to change if even given the opportunity and if it's a legitimate reason. I mean I can't simplify it more than that. The ssn is literally an ID card, so it's like being banned from a building such as the mall by your picture.
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Ladon Wrote:I've heard Skyrim has black-magic levels of running capability. If that makes any sense. Like the game running fine on below-average comps.

I am a filthy street urchin .___. My laptop that was up to snuff last year is no longer capable of running the game in High. >>


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#49
KhainiWest Wrote:Retarded version: Korean social security number essentially links to your identity. If you pineapple up once, that piece of information will never allow you to play again. You only get one SSN, and it takes months to change if even given the opportunity and if it's a legitimate reason. I mean I can't simplify it more than that. The ssn is literally an ID card, so it's like being banned from a building such as the mall by your picture.
So everyone that plays a korean MMO that aren't koreans (read: americans) are super-duper-undercovered-spy-ninjas that can get a KSSN and all koreans, chinese and whatever other people that would like to hack kMS for IRL profit are a bunch of dumbheads and can't even dream of hacking/bypassing/w.e you wanna call it the KSSN, good to know.
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#50
Luxeraph Wrote:So everyone that plays a korean MMO that aren't koreans (read: americans) are super-duper-undercovered-spy-ninjas that can get a KSSN and all koreans, chinese and whatever other people that would like to hack kMS for IRL profit are a bunch of dumbheads and can't even dream of hacking/bypassing/w.e you wanna call it the KSSN, good to know.

...I'm sorry but do you understand that they still need a KSSN, and if that KSSN gets banned, they no longer can play? I know you're trying to be a smart ass but obviously you aren't intelligent enough to understand you can't just FORGE a kssn jesus christ.

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#51
KhainiWest Wrote:...I'm sorry but do you understand that they still need a KSSN, and if that KSSN gets banned, they no longer can play? I know you're trying to be a smart ass but obviously you aren't intelligent enough to understand you can't just FORGE a kssn jesus christ.

Lostcause
So you're telling me that there aren't about 45 MILLION KSSN to look for once the one you were using got banned?
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#52
Luxeraph Wrote:So you're telling me that there aren't about 45 MILLION KSSN to look for once the one you were using got banned?

...How many Ip's are there? A lot more. Hey guess what, you can't change a KSSN like you can change your IP.
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#53
Luxeraph Wrote:So you're telling me that there aren't about 45 MILLION KSSN to look for once the one you were using got banned?

I really wish you would read. It makes you look less retarded.
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#54
KhainiWest Wrote:...How many Ip's are there? A lot more. Hey guess what, you can't change a KSSN like you can change your IP.
At 45000 bans per month (a bit more than what gMS does) it would take about 80 years to ban them all.
Locked Wrote:I really wish you would read. It makes you look less retarded.
Read what? As far as I know KSSN are uniques ID aka one per korean (there are about 49 million koreans), you can open a account with one even if its not your KSSN (thus why foreings can play in korean servers) and if they ban you said KSSN is unuseable.
How can they prevent you from making more accounts with different KSSNs? If a foreing can get a KSSN how it would be harder for a korean?
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#55
That's assuming all of them are available. You don't know how many are able to be found online, how many are already used, etc. It's definitely not an infinite amount compared to GMS, making it a huge barrier to creating a bunch of throwaway accounts.
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#56
Luxeraph Wrote:At 45000 bans per month (a bit more than what gMS does) it would take about 80 years to ban them all.

Read what? As far as I know KSSN are uniques ID aka one per korean (there are about 49 million koreans), you can open a account with one even if its not your KSSN (thus why foreings can play in korean servers) and if they ban you said KSSN is unuseable.
How can they prevent you from making more accounts with different KSSNs? If a foreing can get a KSSN how it would be harder for a korean?

Put up or shut up, go find me every citizens social security number. Rather go find me a significant list, significant being that you'll have enough to experiment hacking
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#57
Luxeraph Wrote:Read what? As far as I know KSSN are uniques ID aka one per korean (there are about 49 million koreans), you can open a account with one even if its not your KSSN (thus why foreings can play in korean servers) and if they ban you said KSSN is unuseable.
How can they prevent you from making more accounts with different KSSNs? If a foreing can get a KSSN how it would be harder for a korean?

EXCUSE ME WHILE I MAKE THIS GIGANTIC POST STATING WHY YOU'RE NOT READING. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, A KSSN CAN BE GENERATED AND TO MY SURPRISE THAT MEANS THAT THERE IS LITERALLY AN INFINITE AMOUNT OF KSSNS FOR THE CHILDREN PLAYING THIS GAME SINCE YOU HAVE TO BE UNDER 14 TO MAKE A THROW AWAY ACCOUNT. UNFORTUNATELY ANY OLDER THAN 14 NEEDS BOTH A PARENTAL VERIFICATION AND A TEXT MESSAGE WHILE THE FORMER ONLY REQUIRES PARENTAL KSSN VERIFICATION. MEANING THAT ONLY A KSSN THAT IS 20 YEARS OLDER THAN YOU AND IS VERIFIED CAN BE USED TO WORK.

How's that for obnoxious?
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#58
i can't read bold letters without the "reading voice" in my head screaming at me =(
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#59
Locked Wrote:EXCUSE ME WHILE I MAKE THIS GIGANTIC POST STATING WHY YOU'RE NOT READING. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, A KSSN CAN BE GENERATED AND TO MY SURPRISE THAT MEANS THAT THERE IS LITERALLY AN INFINITE AMOUNT OF KSSNS FOR THE CHILDREN PLAYING THIS GAME SINCE YOU HAVE TO BE UNDER 14 TO MAKE A THROW AWAY ACCOUNT. UNFORTUNATELY ANY OLDER THAN 14 NEEDS BOTH A PARENTAL VERIFICATION AND A TEXT MESSAGE WHILE THE FORMER ONLY REQUIRES PARENTAL KSSN VERIFICATION. MEANING THAT ONLY A KSSN THAT IS 20 YEARS OLDER THAN YOU AND IS VERIFIED CAN BE USED TO WORK.

How's that for obnoxious?
You already said you needed a verified KSSN, the need to it being 20+ years older is news to me (that takes away about 15 million from that other number) but lets go back to my original question, taking in mind that you® care enough/have enough time/knowledgeable enough to get every singel KSSN.
Luxeraph Wrote:how that stops hackers?
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#60
Luxeraph Wrote:You already said you needed a verified KSSN, the need to it being 20+ years older is news to me (that takes away about 15 million from that other number) but lets go back to my original question, taking in mind that you® care enough/have enough time/knowledgeable enough to get every singel KSSN.

That's a hell of a big assumption there. You are just assuming that hackers have access to information they don't.
If you take that ABSURD assumption as true then yeah, you are right.

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