Nexon Taking Action Against EE-Hacked Equips?

Okay, I didn't think this thread would turn into a discussion about whether or not someone who has an equip is legit or not.

Like Locked said, I believe the bannings have to do with the mass crashings that were happening last week.

...you didn't? not really surprised here.

Of course most users of 27att VSS and WS are "illegit". You can't argue the definition of the word. They gained an advantage by knowingly acquiring an item created by dishonest methods. It doesn't matter if they paid $10 or $500 for it. And I don't give a pomegranate if people do this either, but please don't try to pretend they're still legit.

basicaly everyone in the game you're telling me.

Has nothing to do with having EE'd equips what so ever..

It's the group of guys that pretend that they "run" Scania. Most of which could care less that they got banned, since they own multiple sets of their gear, have literally millions of NX, and an endless supply of mesos. Most of them already smega'd that they would be back in a week or so on new chars.

will be a fun weekend i guess.

oh btw, i read that as of the maintenance, you can't "warp" to golden temple anymore, not sure how true it is.

Why can't Nexon go on them as they went on Ecko and ban any account that's been logged through their IPs? As if a gang of faggots crashing all channels in multiple servers were less harmful than 1 guy haxing a GM account.

Why can't Nexon go on them as they went on Ecko and ban any account that's been logged through their IPs? As if a gang of faggots crashing all channels in multiple servers were less harmful than 1 guy haxing a GM account.

Because that's how I got banned.

Because that's how I got banned.

Your point?

Illegit is defined as breaking the ToS.
If I buy 27 att VSS from the mts, I am doing nothing that breaks the ToS, therefore I am not illegit.

1) The ToS mentions "benefitting from hacking activities" or some such. I'll find you chapter and verse later if you need it.

2) If I buy a really cheap iPod from a random person in the street that seems to have whole crates of them, am I breaking the law?

Your point?

A lot of people who got hacked by ecko got banned too...?

Christ.

A lot of people who got hacked by ecko got banned too...?

Christ.

Lols my bad. I thought you were friend with him and had given him your info yourself. I forgot he was a big account hacker.

But are these guys the same thing? IDK much about them much other than they have duped almost anything worthy in this game.

It's pretty well established that the ToS to the letter is more or less worthless as a measure of legitimacy. Nexon reserves the right to ban you for anything at any time. But yes, it's illegitimate to use equips that can not be made legitimately. You only have plausible deniability if you're using something that simply may have been hacked, not so with 300 atk weapons.

Banning people at this stage is absurd though, they should've taken these equips out as soon as they were created. Doing it now after months and months of otherwise legitimate players being tempted by a complete lack of enforcement coupled with huge gains from using these equips is just adding injury to insult.

1) The ToS mentions "benefitting from hacking activities" or some such. I'll find you chapter and verse later if you need it.

2) If I buy a really cheap iPod from a random person in the street that seems to have whole crates of them, am I breaking the law?

Me, the unknowing consumer, obviously has no idea that such suspicious activities were performed on said VSS .
Those iPods are obviously illegal. As far as I know, some rich person spent 15b 10%+WSing that VSS and is now selling it for 90k NX
It is possible to make 27 att VSS legitly. The dupes made them cheaper. The dupes also made EVERY SINGLE item in FM cheaper. So if buying these VSS makes me illegit, so is nearly everyone else in GMS.

Most of them already smega'd that they would be back in a week or so on new chars.

This sat is gonna be fun I can take my am out of retirement until it gets put on dc lock down for ksing them

It is possible to make 27 att VSS legitly. The dupes made them cheaper.

That's not true, at least on Bera. Shoe atk scrolls only exist in quantities necessary to make these equips because of dupers. Without the dupes there would not be the ~90 10%s necessary to make a perfect item, period. You can't buy what doesn't exist.

I can see why people would buy these things (perceived complete lack of punishment by Nexon) but the fact is if you own an item that can't be gained legitimately you're putting your account in danger of permaban, and it's entirely your own fault for letting greed overtake caution. Plus, when there's no possible way to gain an item legitimately, you are by definition illegitimate. It doesn't matter if you hacked the item yourself or bought it from someone who did, your character is enabling hackers to run the economy, and giving them an incentive to do it by rewarding them for their cheating.

darn i was gonna buy a EE weapon...sigh....now im too paranoid to get one

Scream finally got banned, but Libann got away.
Some EE hacked weapon/Duped I'mALuckyguy medal users on Bera got banned.

Scream? Well that sucks since the ign was most likely stolen.
(Talked with another user who had it year or two ago on maplestory. She later complained that someone hacked and took the name.)

Heard that there were multiple level 200s with dragon mounts, lucky guy medals, and odd igns (zxou or vlboe) banned.

Guess they were hackers as well.

Scream? Well that sucks since the ign was most likely stolen.
(Talked with another user who had it year or two ago on maplestory. She later complained that someone hacked and took the name.)

Heard that there were multiple level 200s with dragon mounts, lucky guy medals, and odd igns (zxou or vlboe) banned.

Guess they were hackers as well.

I remember her. Her name was Sky or something, no? I used to have her(the old owner of 'Scream') on my old MSN, she mentioned buying it for RL cash, and used to remake chars with it over and over.

@Thread; I'll miss Thomas, and a few others who got banned. Majority deserved it though.

I remember her. Her name was Sky or something, no? I used to have her(the old owner of 'Scream') on my old MSN, she mentioned buying it for RL cash, and used to remake chars with it over and over.

Kasey? She originally had it on her Drk then quit along with her guild, and sold it to some smega hoar girl that then xfered to bera/broa/whatever.
(this was like two years ago though, not sure about anyone before her :/)

Also, wonder if any of them will manage to get the ban lifted (or even try). We'll see...

Kasey? She originally had it on her Drk then quit along with her guild, and sold it to some smega hoar girl that then xfered to bera/broa/whatever.
(this was like two years ago though, not sure about anyone before her :/)

Also, wonder if any of them will manage to get the ban lifted (or even try). We'll see...

Fine, 'an' old owner.

That's not true, at least on Bera. Shoe atk scrolls only exist in quantities necessary to make these equips because of dupers. Without the dupes there would not be the ~90 10%s necessary to make a perfect item, period. You can't buy what doesn't exist.

I can see why people would buy these things (perceived complete lack of punishment by Nexon) but the fact is if you own an item that can't be gained legitimately you're putting your account in danger of permaban, and it's entirely your own fault for letting greed overtake caution. Plus, when there's no possible way to gain an item legitimately, you are by definition illegitimate. It doesn't matter if you hacked the item yourself or bought it from someone who did, your character is enabling hackers to run the economy, and giving them an incentive to do it by rewarding them for their cheating.

Is there a like button here? Good say!
Buying an illegitimately obtained item just like paying others to do the dirty job, can't consider as legit in my opinion! No matter how many billions you spend on making your equip, if the scrolls are hacked by yourself or someone else (knowingly or unknowingly), that equip is an illegitimate! If anyone knows the scrolls are hacked when he/she bought it, that person cannot be considered as legal!

That's not true, at least on Bera. Shoe atk scrolls only exist in quantities necessary to make these equips because of dupers. Without the dupes there would not be the ~90 10%s necessary to make a perfect item, period. You can't buy what doesn't exist.

I can see why people would buy these things (perceived complete lack of punishment by Nexon) but the fact is if you own an item that can't be gained legitimately you're putting your account in danger of permaban, and it's entirely your own fault for letting greed overtake caution. Plus, when there's no possible way to gain an item legitimately, you are by definition illegitimate. It doesn't matter if you hacked the item yourself or bought it from someone who did, your character is enabling hackers to run the economy, and giving them an incentive to do it by rewarding them for their cheating.

Couldn't have said it better myself.
27att vss shouldn't exist. I'm sure you would have to buy every 10% shoe att in the whole game (before duping) to even have a chance at that.

Anyway back on topic sorta: It's prolly for the duping not enhance hacked equips. Though they would most likely fit into the same category.

Me, the unknowing consumer, obviously has no idea that such suspicious activities were performed on said VSS .
Those iPods are obviously illegal. As far as I know, some rich person spent 15b 10%+WSing that VSS and is now selling it for 90k NX
It is possible to make 27 att VSS legitly. The dupes made them cheaper. The dupes also made EVERY SINGLE item in FM cheaper. So if buying these VSS makes me illegit, so is nearly everyone else in GMS.

Goddam, thank you for proving the stereotype of players such as yourself lmfao.

I remember another group of players claiming ignorance as an excuse..what was that again?

...Oh yeah, duping of the chaos scrolls. Maybe you should ask how that went.

Most of the people owning these weapons are usually involved in other illegitimate activities anyway, so you can't say that the weapons are the cause.
I do know legit people with EE hacked weapons that they bought/were given to them, but most are not.

Getting yourself such an hacked item is illegit either way.