Your opinion of duped EE-hacked weapons?

Her argument is completely valid I don't know why you're annoyed by it lol

Until the problem becomes rampant her argument is not valid at all. Her other points are common sense don't like hackers don't freaking associate with em. Wanna boss and none of the hacker people will let you into their runs make your freaking own. Don't know anyone to do runs with as my mom says "oh well so sad too bad" instead of saying cc plz while training you should of tried to make friends(that last bit wasn't referring to her specifically just people who lvl up the fast way and expect to boss and find out they don't know anybody and this is a freaking mmo you should of made some friends its waht the hacker people did).

Until the problem becomes rampant her argument is not valid at all.

Theres nearly 4 websites that sell duped equips, hacked items, and level 200 accounts. It's rampent.

Her other points are common sense don't like hackers don't freaking associate with em.

It's no where that easy.

Wanna boss and none of the hacker people will let you into their runs make your freaking own.

Fortunately they dont have some type of program that can force you off the game if you chose to boss without them, deflating their splits and not pissing them off. Very fortunate indeed.

Don't know anyone to do runs with as my mom says "oh well so sad too bad" instead of saying cc plz while training you should of tried to make friends(that last bit wasn't referring to her specifically just people who lvl up the fast way and expect to boss and find out they don't know anybody and this is a freaking mmo you should of made some friends its waht the hacker people did).

Your friends can't defend you from dc hack, they can't defend you from exploits, they can't defend you from remote hack. Her points are completely valid, you're just fortunately in rex/marty's alliance so no one will bother you. Or did you not know?

Theres nearly 4 websites that sell duped equips, hacked items, and level 200 accounts. It's rampent.



It's no where that easy.



Fortunately they dont have some type of program that can force you off the game if you chose to boss without them, deflating their splits and not pissing them off. Very fortunate indeed.



Your friends can't defend you from dc hack, they can't defend you from exploits, they can't defend you from remote hack. Her points are completely valid, you're just fortunately in rex/marty's alliance so no one will bother you. Or did you not know?

For how much? People in this thread have said like 800 dollars yea thats not rampant it was more like 5 or 10 then maybe.

It really is that easy I've done it for 5 years

If they don't know you they can't d/c you again not that hard to keep your runs quiet I do it and have done it ever since zak was big time bossing why can't unkown people who are just starting to boss.

No we aren't we haven't been for months. Think it was like in February logged on and they were gone life continued as normal. Even before that the only time we were ever d/c hacked was during an HT run just bad luck i guess never happened again. Before that last time i was d/ced was freaking bigfoot.

Hackers don't go after everyone just the main groups they know about keep your runs quiet no one knows about you. It really is that simple

Your grand advice is to be completely anonymous so no one ever targets you while making as many friends as possible so you're not alone....
Yeah. Mutually exclusive much?

For how much? People in this thread have said like 800 dollars yea thats not rampant it was more like 5 or 10 then maybe.

26 attack VSS are about 150$ right now, most equips they are talking about are well over 500+ attack. Although kravens and shiners have been duped so much they were less than 100$ at one point. Ws were once 50 cents per. They have the stashes just waiting for to inflate more.

It really is that easy I've done it for 5 years

No you haven't, you own a CHTP with 40+ stats? Hacker related. Did you HP wash? Glitch abuser. And there are plenty of people I KNOW you associate with that are ex hackers/abusers, in fact that you boss with.

If they don't know you they can't d/c you again not that hard to keep your runs quiet I do it and have done it ever since zak was big time bossing why can't unkown people who are just starting to boss.

lol zakum. HT is the problem, not zakum, you got dced by scrubs at zakum. FFS everyone knew me and I rarely got dc hacked, only because I didn't PB/HT. Though PB wouldn't be dc worthy either.

No we aren't we haven't been for months. Think it was like in February logged on and they were gone life continued as normal. Even before that the only time we were ever d/c hacked was during an HT run just bad luck i guess never happened again. Before that last time i was d/ced was freaking bigfoot.

What have you done lately that's even worth dcing? The programs are there, you just keep using yourself as an example because that's all you can really use.

Hackers don't go after everyone just the main groups they know about keep your runs quiet no one knows about you. It really is that simple

See here's the irony in your words. You say hackers aren't rampent, you say it's not a problem, because you know, you're the best example as a normal player. Yet you say you have to do things in secret in order to normal tasks. That's a problem. I'm sorry but zakum isn't a boss, and lately neither is HT, hell I could solo that thing in less than half an hour back in feb. CHT is the only note worthy boss available right now, maybe leon.

Your grand advice is to be completely anonymous so no one ever targets you while making as many friends as possible so you're not alone....
Yeah. Mutually exclusive much?

My advice is to not freaking associate with hackers its really not that hard in khaini(and I'm sure just about every other server) since their always smeging their hacked equipment and people are always smegaing "x guild is a bunch of hackers" Can it really be that difficult. Thing is I'm somewhat known by people and don't really get alone with said hackers in my server yet my runs have never been hacked except the one time I mentioned so tell me how am I able to do it a known person in my server but the unknown guy can't?

Thing is I'm somewhat known by people and don't really get alone with said hackers in my server yet my runs have never been hacked except the one time I mentioned so tell me how am I able to do it a known person in my server but the unknown guy can't?

Because newer players do not miraculously come equipped with an entire entourage of older legit players they've known for several years or their very own prebuilt network of safe and trustworthy friends?

26 attack VSS are about 150$ right now, most equips they are talking about are well over 500+ attack. Although kravens and shiners have been duped so much they were less than 100$ at one point. Ws were once 50 cents per. They have the stashes just waiting for to inflate more.



No you haven't, you own a CHTP with 40+ stats? Hacker related. Did you HP wash? Glitch abuser. And there are plenty of people I KNOW you associate with that are ex hackers/abusers, in fact that you boss with.



lol zakum. HT is the problem, not zakum, you got dced by scrubs at zakum. FFS everyone knew me and I rarely got dc hacked, only because I didn't PB/HT. Though PB wouldn't be dc worthy either.



What have you done lately that's even worth dcing? The programs are there, you just keep using yourself as an example because that's all you can really use.



See here's the irony in your words. You say hackers aren't rampent, you say it's not a problem, because you know, you're the best example as a normal player. Yet you say you have to do things in secret in order to normal tasks. That's a problem. I'm sorry but zakum isn't a boss, and lately neither is HT, hell I could solo that thing in less than half an hour back in feb. CHT is the only note worthy boss available right now, maybe leon.

Lets see here.

EDIT: Dint know $150 was the same as a quarter for a gumball machine most people aren't dropping that kind of cash on a single item you could argue cubes but that's different its their own equips they have made. The people who are buying those are the people wanting to join the hacker runs

CHTP sure yea I have one did I pay for it like other people yea I never once claimed that I was completely legit however I didnt get in bed with hackers to do my boss runs as others have HP washed nope not once You hardly know who I am yourself the only time me and you have ever talked was the very short time when we were in an alliance together.

Just so were clear that CTHP and my glitched hb are the only two things I have gotten that would be consider not legit, I'm sure your list is much longer

I was referring to when zakum was big time but even so Done plenty of HT runs before it was glitched and after 1 time we were d/ced by some random ass people.

What I've done lately I'd rather not say no need in making myself a target(assuming you would tell said hackers even if you didn't this be a public forum and can be found easily).

I use myself because I'm a prime example of how to do things. Yea the whole keeping it hidden is a problem itself but when the only choice is do it or deal with retards I choose the one that wouldn't give me a headache every week. Most of the blame is towards hackers but if your doing runs and blabbing about it your making yourself a target and well sad to say it that's your own damn fault.

Because newer players do not miraculously come equipped with an entire entourage of older legit players they've known for several years or their very own prebuilt network of safe and trustworthy friends?

Yea because I really came to this game 5 years ago and knew everyone right? No one said it would be instant it wasn't instant for the people doing the big time runs now was it how the hell do you think they met up and started doing stuff? Though I can't really say that's the fault of the players that's more game design then anything. The only kind of interaction players have with each other is to say "cc plz".

Yea because I really came to this game 5 years ago and knew everyone right? No one said it would be instant it wasn't instant for the people doing the big time runs now was it how the hell do you think they met up and started doing stuff? Though I can't really say that's the fault of the players that's more game design then anything. The only kind of interaction players have with each other is to say "cc plz".

5 years ago we didn't have the situation we do now, so you've had a five year advantage on finding and building a network of people that anyone entering the game today does not have.

You're trying to compare how you got to where you are to what people have today as if they're even remotely similar circumstances. You may as well be bragging about how wonderful it was when you lived in your house and how nicely laid out and easy it was to get around and find everything to someone who moved in the week it burned down and try telling them the house is still great, it's clearly just their problem because it was never a problem when you lived there.

Yes the game may be easy for you to navigate around in because as you said, you've had five years to build up your support network and figure out people. New people, by nature of the concept of being new, do not magically already have several years worth of acquaintances to draw upon. Considering the current environment, in which you can not throw a tuna without hitting a hacker, duper, scammer, spammer, farmer or idiot, them miraculously avoiding all of those and only finding the super secret wonderful people who by your own advice are effectively hiding seems rather miniscule don't you think?

From my perspective, hacking in Maple is the same as selling drugs in reality. Before someone flames me for saying that hear me out. Hacking makes everything easier until you get caught. Now see the thing is the "Police" in Maple don't do anything, people are hardly ever caught. You have thousands of obvious hackers running around everyday but the higher authority does nothing when you break the rules. Why did no one hack before? Because there was always that chance that you would get caught and be banned so it was not worth it. Even though that's not how everyone thinks, there are still people who don't hack just because it's wrong. But what happens when there is no authority to correct you when you do wrong? Everyone starts breaking rules. If people in reality could sell drugs, make serious cash and not get caught because authority didn't care or they were just incompetent, more people would do it. You can try and say that's not true, but it is. That's what exactly happened to hacking over the years, Nexon just stopped giving a pineapple.

When more people start doing something that is not accepted, it starts to become more accepted as time goes on or people just stop caring.That's what happened over the years. Back then hacking was the #1 thing not to do or no one would associate with you. Some people even have friends on their buddy list that were legit as someone could be a couple years ago, now they are botting at maps and not caring. What do you do? Do you stop talking to friend you knew for years because they started hacking or do you just keep your distance from them? Some people just don't care anymore. Why don't they care anymore you may ask? Who is going to stop them? I know people right now who make hundreds of dollars just by hacking. They are not the skilled hackers either, they are the script kiddies and packet monkeys who exploit and bot, then sell all of it for cash. People want money, if they have to be bad in a virtual world where authority doesn't do their job to get the things they want in real life then they don't care. That's the mentality that changed over the years.

The whole "Legit" term is useless now in maple, because everyone has their own term of it now. Mostly everyone has done something that ruins their legitimacy, whether it was on purpose or not. I personally don't like hackers, they ruin the game, but at the same time if someone starts hacking that I know I won't care because at the end of the day you can't do anything about it. If you try to have a buddy list and a group of people that are 100% Legit. You won't have much of a buddy list.

5 years ago we didn't have the situation we do now, so you've had a five year advantage on finding and building a network of people that anyone entering the game today does not have.

You're trying to compare how you got to where you are to what people have today as if they're even remotely similar circumstances. You may as well be bragging about how wonderful it was when you lived in your house and how nicely laid out and easy it was to get around and find everything to someone who moved in the week it burned down and try telling them the house is still great, it's clearly just their problem because it was never a problem when you lived there.

Yes the game may be easy for you to navigate around in because as you said, you've had five years to build up your support network and figure out people. New people, by nature of the concept of being new, do not magically already have several years worth of acquaintances to draw upon. Considering the current environment, in which you can not throw a tuna without hitting a hacker, duper, scammer, spammer, farmer or idiot, them miraculously avoiding all of those and only finding the super secret wonderful people who by your own advice are effectively hiding seems rather miniscule don't you think?

The situation is the same just more refined and evolved. The only new problem it has become accepted by the community. Even then not every single person you meet is a hacker or is associated with one as you go up the lvl chain around my lvl you can easily identify whose hacking and whose not. I never said the process was easy but its not as hard as you make it seem it. There's a lot of hacking out there but 98% of it is fairly easy to avoid. No one said you had to find this super secret group of legit players to associate yourself with but at the same time you should be aware of the people who do hack and abuse every single glitch at their and suck up to d/c hackers so if they do a run it doesn't last 2 seconds.

My advice is to not freaking associate with hackers its really not that hard in khaini(and I'm sure just about every other server) since their always smeging their hacked equipment and people are always smegaing "x guild is a bunch of hackers" Can it really be that difficult. Thing is I'm somewhat known by people and don't really get alone with said hackers in my server yet my runs have never been hacked except the one time I mentioned so tell me how am I able to do it a known person in my server but the unknown guy can't?

Ok good to know just because somebody smegas saying a guild is hackers that means they are 100% with out a doubt, and the most of those arn't just butthurt kids at MP3.

So people with hacked equipment are all hackers? Good to know that you must be one too from just admitting that you have a 40 stat CHTP. Even though you claim to have bought it.. how can we really be sure?

I bet you're just doing Zak runs arnt you? Lmfao. Nobody bothers with DCing Zak anymore it's not profitable at all.

Not hard in Khaini to not associate with hackers? You're fucking funny kid. You do know that Khaini is known for having the most hackers out of any server in GMS right? Back in the day there was only two things Khaini was known for.. hackers and killing HT.. which are both quite related lmfao. You'd be surprised how many people you know are hackers or used to be. Easy enough to find out if you just do some digging.

Ok good to know just because somebody smegas saying a guild is hackers that means they are 100% with out a doubt, and the most of those arn't just butthurt kids at MP3.

So people with hacked equipment are all hackers? Good to know that you must be one too from just admitting that you have a 40 stat CHTP. Even though you claim to have bought it.. how can we really be sure?

I bet you're just doing Zak runs arnt you? Lmfao. Nobody bothers with DCing Zak anymore it's not profitable at all.

Not hard in Khaini to not associate with hackers? You're fucking funny kid. You do know that Khaini is known for having the most hackers out of any server in GMS right? Back in the day there was only two things Khaini was known for.. hackers and killing HT.. which are both quite related lmfao. You'd be surprised how many people you know are hackers or used to be. Easy enough to find out if you just do some digging.

I was waiting for someone like you to say that. True that is the case about smegaing sometimes not all the time I'm sure you can identify some hacker guilds and some of them that are smega are at least somewhat true.

If you had bothered to read I never once said I was some super legit person but dose buying something like that in the fm which by the way is complety run by hackers(lets put it this way 98% of the stuff in the fm is a result of botting or duping)

Think what you want about what runs I do, I don't really care.

Yea I know khiani is know for hackers the which makes it that much easier to avoid them as its KINDA PLAN AS DAY VISIBLE.

The only new problem it has become accepted by the community.

Suddenly awkward.
"Everybody else does it" is probably the most tempting and popular rationalization, second only to "but it caused no harm". It's like herd immunity, once enough people deviate from the herd, everybody else is as good as done, and it starts with a handful of people. Granted, this can't be helped, but that is also why it shouldn't be tolerated with.

That is, of course, if you have a problem with the end result.

Yea I know khiani is know for hackers the which makes it that much easier to avoid them as its KINDA PLAN AS DAY VISIBLE.

Your grand advice is to be completely anonymous so no one ever targets you while making as many friends as possible so you're not alone....
Yeah. Mutually exclusive much?

lol, we've gone a full cycle haven't we.

If you had bothered to read I never once said I was some super legit person but dose buying something like that in the fm which by the way is complety run by hackers(lets put it this way 98% of the stuff in the fm is a result of botting or duping)

Yea I know khiani is know for hackers the which makes it that much easier to avoid them as its KINDA PLAN AS DAY VISIBLE.

And there you have it. By admitting the FM is overrun by hackers he must be admitting that yes, hackers do hurt regular people. Because not only can you not buy pomegranate, but people are super apprehensive to buy ANYTHING. Especially with these account hackings going on, though I'm sure some of you wouldn't be opposed to buying someone's entire inventory even knowing its origins.

You don't need to be buddy buddy with a hacker for their pomegranate to affect you. Even at Zakum there's a ridiculous 4 hour line up of people with hacked equips farming for the DAB recipe. If you're suggesting that that doesn't hurt people then you're delusional. Without all of this hacked equipment that number would be significantly less, it could probably even still be organized, and the market wouldn't be pineappleed up. Khaini scoffed that there's nothing worthwhile at Zak now. That's not just because of the natural progression of the game, that's because of all of the hackers flooding the market with his drops. It is literally impossible to say "hey let's zak/ht at this time tomorrow" to a group of friends because even if you all get there and wait a while the chances of you getting in before half the party has to leave is slim to none. BUT WHO NEEDS TO PARTY ZAK HT NOW? Legits. Not just because of weaker equipment but because bossing with friends is FUN. But it's impossible now.

There are very few people that I find truly annoying on Forums.. Takebacker is one of them, and a few others from SW, and now Sarah joins that list. lol..she is just too good.

BOO HOO.

If you had bothered to read I never once said I was some super legit person but dose buying something like that in the fm which by the way is complety run by hackers(lets put it this way 98% of the stuff in the fm is a result of botting or duping)

Mind completing this thought?

Think what you want about what runs I do, I don't really care.

Guarantee that if you start doing certin runs too often pomegranate is going to hit the fan.

Yea I know khiani is know for hackers the which makes it that much easier to avoid them as its KINDA PLAN AS DAY VISIBLE

You're fucking funny. It's not always plain as day to see if somebody is a hacker or not. Sure people vaccing and jumping around the map are obviously hacking, but others its harder to tell. Take this kid I used to Anego with. You wouldn't know he was hacking unless you're somebody that he informed that he was. Plenty of people out there are using hacks that arn't obvious as pineapple to see being used.

And there you have it. By admitting the FM is overrun by hackers he must be admitting that yes, hackers do hurt regular people. Because not only can you not buy pomegranate, but people are super apprehensive to buy ANYTHING. Especially with these account hackings going on, though I'm sure some of you wouldn't be opposed to buying someone's entire inventory even knowing its origins.

You don't need to be buddy buddy with a hacker for their work to affect you. Even at Zakum there's a ridiculous 4 hour line up of people with hacked equips farming for the DAB recipe. If you're suggesting that that doesn't hurt people then you're delusional. Without all of this hacked equipment that number would be significantly less, it could probably even still be organized, and the market wouldn't be pineappleed up. Khaini scoffed that there's nothing worthwhile at Zak now. That's not just because of the natural progression of the game, that's because of all of the hackers flooding the market with his drops. It is literally impossible to say "hey let's zak/ht at this time tomorrow" to a group of friends because even if you all get there and wait a while the chances of you getting in before half the party has to leave is slim to none. BUT WHO NEEDS TO PARTY ZAK HT NOW? Legits. Not just because of weaker equipment but because bossing with friends is FUN. But it's impossible now.



BOO HOO.

I never said hackers didn't hurt people I said this type of hacking(enhanced hacked weapons which what this topic was about at the time I quoted you was about). I fully agree that most hacking hurts people however enhanced hacked weapons don't hurt many people and the people it dose effect are the idiots who are really trying to compare themselves to hackers. So you could say their pain is self inflicted

@ below Sorry about that here lets finish that shall we. If the market is basically owned by hackers then anything you buy there can be considered hacked and by your logic of calling me a hacker since I have a CHTP that would make anyone who has brought almost anything outa the fm a hacker.

Your other point I'm going to guess that was when hacking was slightly less tolerated as of now I doubt your buddy would hide anything.

Actually, you stated before that anybody with a hacked equip is a hacker, thus having 40 stat CHTP which are only hacked by your logic makes you a hacker.

No, because he's not a dumbass. Even people that people KNOW are hackers won't admit to you that they hack unless you're a close friend of theirs.