Koolk was arrested!!

This is irrelevant. Many of the things on this site are blatant infringements, even things completely unrelated to the concepts of data extraction.

However, since the site's purpose is that of a fansite that pushes players toward Nexon's service, rather than a "Rogue website" that encourages distension, Nexon likely will not act against this site. Anyway, they'd have about the same justification to attack Sleepywood or Hidden-street as they would to attack this site.

Well, yeah. "Won't" would probably be more appropriate.

Poor Koolk. I can't believe this happened to him. I really hope Nexon doesn't sue him for too much.

I'm surprised no one asked this yet.

Fiel, are you going to continue the repacker?

Fiel, are you going to continue the repacker?

He's not going to release it, what is the issue?

Dam this sucks Alls well that ends well, I say. Koolk was pretty well..Kool

1. Of course I'm going to continue the repacker. It falls under fair use, and I do not plan on releasing it or any files created with it.

2. Koolk did not get arrested for hacking the WZ files. He got arrested for distributing the Titan source which infringes on Nexon's profit.

3. I do not do any development for FMS. Should FMS get a C&D order, I do have a backup plan for Southperry. Fear not, this site will not disappear with FMS.

4. Nexon could sue me for the illegalities done on this website, but they'd have a hard time in court since this site likely boosts Nexon's profits. It would not be a good move on Nexon's part. I'm sure Nexon knows who I am and what I do. I've been doing patch extraction for over 20 patches. If they wanted to do something, I'm sure they would have stopped me by now.

why are they suing him instead of hiring?

>.<

I bow down to you, sir.


And that really, really sucks. Good luck KoolK. D:


If Fiel got arrested, I would probably quit. <_<

1. Of course I'm going to continue the repacker. It falls under fair use, and I do not plan on releasing it or any files created with it.

I doubt Nexon cares about silly things like whether it actually is against the law. With the money to pay a legal team and going against individuals who can't afford to defend themselves, they effectively create the law.

You have no idea what you're talking about. If Nexon decides to take action against me, the FlowsionMS Project will be shutdown and the last reminaing OdinMS Fork will be closed. This is an enormous blow to the private server community as this is a 'scare' tactic towards a lot of users as well as koolk being a huge part of the scene. This means that the 2 original sources (TitanMS and OdinMS) are now closed. The remains of these sources (TitanMS -> Vana and OdinMS -> FlowsionMS) are the only remaining projects of Maplestory Private Servers.

I'm trying to say if they do something about you,it will close the FlowsionMS project,but the other developers can continue another source,got it now?!

I think YOU have no idea what I AM talking about

You really think anyone has the knowledge to? The community is filled with idiots, all the good coders are on the FlowsionMS Team.

I'm talking about doing something against you,not about the developers of FlowsionMS,Your team can continue a project,who knows if that happens?

And yes,the good developers wont need you to do anything,or they do?

Someone asked about doing something against YOU

They won't.

There are other developers than your team,dont think the world depends of you and your team.

Your team has very good developers,but they're not the only on the private server community...

If you still thinks noone can do something without you,then,have fun D:

First of all, Afrobean, I think you have a twisted view about legal rights in this world... I don't know where you live, what your job is, or what you believe in, but for all I know you're working for Nexon itself, or either you're a right wing conservative american with stocks in Nexon who claims to have to sole right to the truth...

Really, no offense, but you state every opinion you have as a fact and the whole rest of the world is incorrect... Please open your eyes that not all that you claim is the sole thruth and not everything you claim is correct. There are other people with other opinions, I suggest you keep your mind open for them!

I have no intention to flame you, just don't try to correct everyone to your version of reality...

People providing unofficial public servers crossed the line first.

In your oppinion... In my opinion they're just running a made from scratch home server which happens to be compatible with free to download software from the internet... In your opinion this is illegal, many others don't think so...

You may consider this a bad thing, but so too do murders think it's bad that killing is illegal. You're too deep in to the situation to give an unbiased opinion on whether it is right of Nexon to do these things or not. It's Nexon's IP, and they're completely justified to bring legal actions against those who would infringe it. How would you feel if you created a movie, game, or other piece of art and were trying to distribute it, only to find some rogue group deciding that their version of your piece of art was better, and not only this, but this group was giving away copies of your art for free and encouraging the public to stay away from your official version.

What is Nexon's IP here? Nexon doesn't own the right of humanity of writing software that is capable to communicate with the program they freely host on their website to be downloaded by everyone. Again, it's your opinion there is IP infringement here, many other don't share your opinion, again, don't reply to others to state it as a fact, just say that you -think- it's illegal.

Also your comparision with movies is not correct imo, yet again you state it as a fact. The fact you state may be illegal (directly selling copyrighted content), yet it's not the same as the thing we're talking about here. So don't use false arguements. If you want to compare it, try comparing it like this:
- Nexon's Downloadable client = DVD
- Nexon brand DVD player = Nexon's Servers
- DVD player = Private Server

Nexon would say that you're only allowed to view this DVD on DVD players from NEXON themselves. Some people don't agree with this of and play the DVD on their own DVD player. I wouldn't know why this would be copyright infringement...

That's all there is to it, but offcourse this is only my weird way of viewing these things...

I'm all for the other things KoolK was involved in though. The stuff that, you know, isn't illegal, or rather, the things which actually fall under fair use.

Yes, only you can declare if things are legal or not, judge Afrobean... :+)

This is irrelevant. Many of the things on this site are blatant infringements, even things completely unrelated to the concepts of data extraction.

However, since the site's purpose is that of a fansite that pushes players toward Nexon's service, rather than a "Rogue website" that encourages distension, Nexon likely will not act against this site. Anyway, they'd have about the same justification to attack Sleepywood or Hidden-street as they would to attack this site.

Any extractions of any freely distributed data on the internet is completely legal, and it's also a fundamental right of humans to talk about it. It's called freedom of press and speech. Southperry, Sleepywood, Hiddenstreet, they all have the freedom to publicise everything they want, even if they're not even fansites at all...

But ok ok, I won't state refering to article 19 of the "Universal Declaration of Human Rights" as a fact. This all just my humble opinion.

The repacker falls under fair use so long as it's not distributed.

Did Nexon invent the software code called "repacker"? No, it's perfectly legal to make one, talk about it, publicise about it, and -even- put it online and distribute it... But ok, this is only my own opinion, like you have your own view on this...

But well ok I won't start to argue with you about this again, because the previous topics got already closed because of this...

All I want to say, always keep an open mind for others with another opinion, and don't state everything you think as an absolute fact! There are many versions of the truth!

Cheers m8!

You sure know nothing of the development community then. Koolk, Vana and FMS Developers and maybe RMZero# are good devs. There are none aside from them.

Ok then,if you think there's none aside them...keep thinking that =)

But i bet they wont need you to develop anything

Any extractions of any freely distributed data on the internet is completely legal, and it's also a fundamental right of humans to talk about it. It's called freedom of press and speech. Southperry, Sleepywood, Hiddenstreet, they all have the freedom to publicise everything they want, even if they're not even fansites at all...

Intellectual property.

Nexon distributes its client for free, sure, but it (and everything else contained within it, including images, sound files, etc) is still owned by Nexon and it's infringement to host it elsewhere in any other form. Like a png image.

They aren't likely to sue every single person who uses Maplestory images, since there's simply too many of them and Nexon doesn't stand to gain much from doing that, but I'm pretty sure it does technically constitute infringement.

Not saying I'm against it.

Anyone remembers StellarAshes / Eugene? He was a very nice coder, too. He made his server with fully working APQ / GPQ (PERFECT, made by him) / LMPQ / LPQ and KPQ (maybe even others).

Too bad, he closed his server because he didn't have time (I think). I didn't have news of him from a while now. But he was a very good developer indeed. He was able to fix any bugs encountered.

Trunks, you do relise that someday you will get caught, probably this or next year, as you are the owner of Flowsion Inc, which seems to be hosting private servers and forums(?) like southperry.

You now probably have the biggest Private Server out there. If you get sued, do you have backup plan, or will you open your private server under a new name?

(Sorry, if this is a utterly stupid question.)

Trunks, you do relise that someday you will get caught, probably this or next year, as you are the owner of Flowsion Inc, which seems to be hosting private servers and forums(?) like southperry.

You now probably have the biggest Private Server out there. If you get sued, do you have backup plan, or will you open your private server under a new name?

(Sorry, if this is a utterly stupid question.)

What if he uses a Proxy. Nobody will ever find him lol....

I will them I'm 11 and Fiel is my dad.

that made me lol in over 21 ways.

Intellectual property.

Nexon distributes its client for free, sure, but it (and everything else contained within it, including images, sound files, etc) is still owned by Nexon and it's infringement to host it elsewhere in any other form. Like a png image.

They aren't likely to sue every single person who uses Maplestory images, since there's simply too many of them and Nexon doesn't stand to gain much from doing that, but I'm pretty sure it does technically constitute infringement.

Not saying I'm against it.

All I can say is that the freedom of press overrules IP in many cases, especially when the publication only has the mere intention to inform their readers...

OK here is the truth

OK my xFreeze(from rz) made a full translation of the article on YNET and yes he is from isreal so this is accurate

Credit to xFreeze for the Translation

student of the 11th grade has been arrested this morning because of hacking the game Maplestory(which has been created by Nexon) and releasing "the secret codes to upgrade your charcter".

The young guy has admitted he did that for "fame on the internet" after an investigation that lasted 3 months.

During the month of July complaint filed by attorneys representing the company in Israel, Nexon Korean. Company representatives noticed that are Israeli as a "koolk" broke the company's software, downloadable for free, it slipped by module security module connection. The hacker opened server which is equivalent to connect with the cracked software, and made users who were supposed to connect to the original server connect to the pirated server.

The game "Maplestory" is a free-based game, you can play in for free when-ever you want, but if you want a strong charcter you have to pay to Nexon.

The guy also published the cracked\pirated software by the Internet thereby caused financial damage to increase, and increased the fear viruses for the game who have used the cracked\pirated software. Over several weeks, the boy managed to evade researchers of computer fraud unit, which came during the investigation was considered hackers innocent people.

During the search conducted by police fraud unit of the district center computer of computer material was captured, detained the suspect for questioning. Pleaded guilty to minor offenses and released on making conditions restrictive by his parents. The police say that this is an offense to infiltrate into pertaining to computer material, breaking into a protected server, removing the security of a server module and establishing smiliar server - all of these criminal offenses.

No here is the letter that koolk showed to Zorita then Zorita showed me

Nexon America Inc. (“Nexon” is the owner of the Website, (Nexon's website could post link because i dont have enough posts) (the “Website” The website contains Nexon’s copyrighted material and the intellectual property in the Video Games on the Website, which include the game MapleStory (the “Game”, as well as the original images on the Website and embedded in the Game, and the object and source code for the site. In addition, Nexon is the owner in the trademarks NEXON and MapleStory, as well as hundreds of other trademarks used in association with the website.

You are currently hosting the following website: http://titanms.koolk.net (the “Rogue Website”. This website is a haven for private servers of the Game, and for those who have illegally misappropriated Nexon’s intellectual property: These private servers who specifically distribute and download private server software for the Game from the Rogue Website are severely damaging the Game and are hurting Nexon’s business. In addition, they are misappropriating Nexon’s intellectual property for their own commercial gain.

I hereby state that Nexon America Inc. is the owner of copyright in the images attached hereto and that to the best of my knowledge and belief, the infringing use was not authorized by it, its agents or the law. I further declare under penalty of perjury that this notice is accurate and that I am authorized to act as Nexon America Inc.’s agent in this matter. Pursuant to the Copyright Act, and your Terms of Service, Nexon America Inc. demands that you shut down the Rogue Website and remove the infringing material contained on said site.

You may reach me by e-mail at ***@nexon.net if you have any questions about this matter. The foregoing is not intended as a complete statement of our rights and remedies, all of which are hereby expressly reserved.

What else do I know?

*His SVN and website are down
*He hasnt been on since yesterday
*He has a pretty big bill to pay
*NO he hasnt been jailed just arrested
*He got the letter yesterday
*Its very unlikely he will come on very soon or atleast thats what i think
*Not sure if its about hacking their website, its maybe because of the Wz Repacker, because if it was for hacking nexons website then Zorita would of been arrested too
*As most people tell me most of the fact on YNET are bs, so some of the facts the might of stated are bs


Anymore facts please tell me :]

~Elkin