Memes - where the hell do they come from?

4chan is not Fight Club.

Those rules only need apply during raids to shield the source of the attack from potential backlash. Discussion of this nature is conducive to the ultimate goal of the collective anonymous of the separate chans.

Or you could stop being a papaya and try to prove everyone wrong and realize none of us want all these newfags on our god damn chans

"Because I can, and it's free" is a Maple community meme, that tried to be yet died off, (mostly anyway)

Because we can and it's free is not a meme, in my humble opinion, it's a source of endless amusement for anyone wanting to make fun of Nexon. There is a slight difference, because a meme is a source of lulz, whereas "because we can and it's free" is most often the TARGET of lulz. I don't particularly care because I get lulz either way.

Afro: I really don't know about chan, but as you've said, everyone keeps telling me that 4chan and GD attract the same clientele... including the Gaia mods. You haven't known lulz till a mid-tier GD Gaia mod tells you that she (yes she) finds the Pedobear "adorable," (direct quote.) And a top-tier GD Gaia mod told me over AIM, "are you kidding, of course I go to /b/, their pomegranate is hilarious." When I see those same people issuing bans for things I know they regularly laugh about, well, to me that's lulz.

The problem with GD is there ARE usernames, so most of them "try too hard." In their cases it's the same as trying too hard to force the feces out of their rectums, mainly because the stuff coming out of their rectums and out of their mouths is, well, the same.

Or you could stop being a papaya and try to prove everyone wrong and realize none of us want all these newfags on our god damn chans

It has gotten to the point where cancer is now an inherent property of these sorts of things. 4chan's /b/ foremost. Frankly, I would show a little more reserve in discussing other specific ones, but even they're not safe. Not safe from the cancer of 4chan spreading anyway.

Because we can and it's free is not a meme, in my humble opinion, it's a source of endless amusement for anyone wanting to make fun of Nexon. There is a slight difference, because a meme is a source of lulz, whereas "because we can and it's free" is most often the TARGET of lulz. I don't particularly care because I get lulz either way.

You're thinking too Internet-culture-centric. "Eat my shorts" is a meme. Haven't you ever wondered where the word "meme" comes from? It's derived from the Greek god of memory mneme (who also led her name to words like "mnemonic"). In the simplest terms I can think of to verbalize, I would say a meme is merely an abstract idea which can (or HAS) spread socially to others. Try giving the wikipedia article on it a solid read.

And again, memes need not be widespread either. They can be limited to subcommunities. Even subgroups of subcommunities. Technically, memes centered around a particular website's /b/ board would be a subgroup of that site's community, nestled within the greater grouping of all chans, which itself is nested with the grouping of the Internet. I would even go as far as to say all a meme needs in order to exist is 2 people, even if it's not all that interesting a concept merely sharing thoughts between two people to create and transmit memes.

You're thinking too Internet-culture-centric. "Eat my shorts" is a meme. Haven't you ever wondered where the word "meme" comes from? It's derived from the Greek god of memory mneme (who also led her name to words like "mnemonic"). In the simplest terms I can think of to verbalize, I would say a meme is merely an abstract idea which can (or HAS) spread socially to others. Try giving the wikipedia article on it a solid read.

And again, memes need not be widespread either. They can be limited to subcommunities. Even subgroups of subcommunities. Technically, memes centered around a particular website's /b/ board would be a subgroup of that site's community, nestled within the greater grouping of all chans, which itself is nested with the grouping of the Internet. I would even go as far as to say all a meme needs in order to exist is 2 people, even if it's not all that interesting a concept merely sharing thoughts between two people to create and transmit memes.

Who started the chinchilla meme?

I refuse to post outside of forums related entirely to video-games. But from what I've learned meme's come from idiots who have too much time, I'm more interested in the why and how it spread. The how is internet forums, and the why is still unknown. =o

I refuse to post outside of forums related entirely to video-games. But from what I've learned meme's come from idiots who have too much time, I'm more interested in the why and how it spread. The how is internet forums, and the why is still unknown. =o

The "why" is that it's in the nature of social interaction. If the idea of memes is oversimplified to the degree that I mentioned in my previous post, then it can also be connected to the concepts of simple discussion. Just talking with someone can provide the same sort of interaction that a meme thrives on. Basically, we wouldn't be social creatures without memes. I personally would say that the development of early language is similar in concept to meme "infection"; if not for this principle of socialization, we wouldn't be able to understand anyone else. Humans would only be able to look inwardly.

I still don't get why anyone would A] Create a meme B] Spread a meme...
It seems like such a waste, and by meme I mean internet memes. At any rate, I read the Wikipedia article and it didn't make full sense to me... But then again I rarely understand concepts that involve a person doing stupid things (dares for one).

I still don't get why anyone would A] Create a meme B] Spread a meme...
It seems like such a waste, and by meme I mean internet memes. At any rate, I read the Wikipedia article and it didn't make full sense to me... But then again I rarely understand concepts that involve a person doing stupid things (dares for one).

Some people TRY hard to be meme masters (YTMND anyone?) but generally alot appear from pop culture too..
Y So SRS Plox?
That ^^^ is a current meme.

Different memes are created for different reasons. The "Why so Serious?" meme came about thanks to viral marketing for the new Batman film. This itself mutated into other things (such as multiple iterations on the concept "why so dead").

Other memes could be created for fun. Not necessarily intending to create a meme, but to create a single instance of humor, or to get a certain particular idea across. Then, other people might pick up on it and take it to new limits.

Other memes are naughty. They're the ones you two are talking about. People who go out of their way to try to make "the next big meme". "Forced memes" is what they're often called. These memes can sometimes achieve a bit of greatness themselves, but they're really just created by someone so they can balloon their sense of self-worth. These people do it for the fame... a bit ironic when one considers the forced anonymity of these sites, but they feel this fame regardless of whether they get personal glory or not.

Actually, here. There is a section in the Wikipedia article specifically detailing different sorts of memes as they're applicable in real life, not the limited defintion as applied where /b/ is specifically concerned. I know the full article is quite a bit to swallow (I honestly haven't sat down and read it entirely myself), but there are some good heavy nuggets, like this following:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme#Examples_of_memes

* Common sense, as spread from generation to generation
* Popular works, such as music, literature, and video; often transmitted in the form of specific quotes and scenes.
* Technology and technological artifacts: cars, paper-clips, etc. Technology demonstrates mutation as well as transmission, which memetic (or genetic) progress requires. An often-cited example of "technology as meme" involves the building of a fire. Some researchers sometimes refer to memes concerning technology as "temes", which rhymes with "memes".[6] Also see Moore's Law.
* Traditions, including religion, fashion, proverbs, epic poems, stories, music, dance, and children's culture
* Theories, including scientific, pseudo-scientific, and conspiratorial
* Medical and safety advice: "Don't swim for an hour after eating", "Stop, drop, and roll".
* Popular concepts: these include Freedom, Justice, Ownership, Open Source, Egoism, or Altruism
* Group-based biases: everything from antisemitism and racism to cargo cults.
* Programming paradigms: from structured programming and object-oriented programming to extreme programming.
* Phrases, slogans, and expressions. May come from advertising ("Whasssssup!"; sometimes accompanied by melodies), the Internet ("all your base are belong to us!") or politics ("mob rule")
* Viral marketing: a type of marketing based on memes and using "word of mouth" to advertise (see the recent example of Snakes on a Plane).

So a programming paradigm is a meme? I fail to see why, as it is spread by education and rarely changed unless you're forced to do so. So therefore everything spread by education and learning is meme? It is quite the broad phrase when not applied to the internet's dumbass memes. >_>

The internet. [SIZE="1"]and stop mentioning chans you faggots.[/SIZE]

Yah, besides. The LUE was way better.