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Violation of the United States Constitution, Obama is disarming America.
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“The purpose is to dry up the supply of these weapons over time,” Feinstein said. “Therefore, there is no sunset on this bill.”
Obama has vowed to sign Feinstein’s legislation if it clears significant hurdles in Congress.
Feinstein assembled an all-star cast to call for unconstitutionally rolling back the gun rights of millions of Americans. Those in attendance included senators plantain Durbin, Chuck Schumer and Rep. Carolyn McCarthy. The California lawmaker surrounded herself with “law enforcement officers, faith leaders, mayors, gun control advocates and other Democratic supporters of the bill,” according to Roll Call.
Others in attendance for their obvious theatrical value included survivors of mass shootings in Arizona, Colorado and at Virginia Tech, Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter and Charles H. Ramsey, Philadelphia Police Commissioner, the Washington Post reports.
A number of Democrats not attending the media event, however, have vowed to fight the legislation.
On the chopping block are 158 specific kinds of semiautomatic firearms listed by name (see the entire list here) and others – including handguns and shotguns – with at least one specific military characteristic. In addition, the legislation will outlaw all ammunition magazines that contain more than 10 rounds.
More draconian yet, the proposed legislation will target millions of so-called assault weapons already in the hands of Americans by subjecting owners to government background checks.
A number of states reacted to Obama’s call to rollback the Second Amendment and his pledge to back anti-gun legislation introduced by Democrats in Congress.
On Wednesday, Texas freshman Rep. Steve Stockman introduced his Restore the Constitution Act in response to Obama signing a flurry of unconstitutional executive orders and actions following his anti-firearms speech last week.
Stockman’s bill would designate any executive action to be advisory only if it infringes on the constitutional duties of Congress under Article I, or the Second Amendment.
Texas, Missouri and other states have introduced legislation to block enforcement of the gun ban.
Texas Rep. John Otto (R-Dayton) filed HB553 soon after Obama’s theatrical speech exploiting children as stage props.
The bill would make it a misdemeanor for any state or federal official to “enforce or attempt to enforce any acts, laws, executive orders, agency orders, rules or regulations of any kind whatsoever of the United States government relating to confiscating any firearm, banning any firearm, limiting the size of a magazine for any firearm, imposing any limit on the ammunition that may be purchased for any firearm, taxing any firearm or ammunition therefore, or requiring the registration of any firearm or ammunition therefore.”

http://www.infowars.com/feinstein-rolls-...amendment/ (^^^)

What do you guys think about this? Do you really think its good that the people, who are above the constitution that is above the government, get stripped of their self defense?

The law not only bans every "assault rifle", but also things that may resemble the appearance of one. For example, a pump action shotgun that has a pistol grip instead of the traditional hunting look.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

In case you think Obama is a good person who wants to protect the children of the United States. And that he wants to stop mass shootings which have probably been psychologically triggered by mass media (THE DARK KNIGHT RISES). You should probably watch this video...

[video=youtube;mCO2NXp95wk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCO2NXp95wk[/video]

The only reason I could think of for wanting to strip a nation of its constitution and its only defense against tyranny, is tyranny. I'm not saying Obama is the next world dictator but wtp... he probably is. Hitler also passed laws prohibiting Jews from owning guns in 1938, GUESS WHAT HAPPENED IN 1939!

Also, recently many countries have been starting to repatriot their gold which they trusted to keep in the U.S, guess what the U.S sold that gold and now those countries are getting pissed, we're talking about countries such as Germany and Russia.

Potential Civil War (Against Tyranny) + WW3 (Over Currency) at the same time. I also think this is exactly what Obama wants; if there's a WW3 it just makes it so much easier to come in with your NWO bullpomegranate and say "OHHH WELL WE WOULDNT HAVE THESE WARS IF THERE WAS JUST ONE GOVERNMENT LOL YOU DON'T AGREE WITH ME THEN I'LL WIPE YOUR COUNTRY OUT WITH MILLIONS OF DRONES LOL I WON A NOBLE PEACE PRIZE FK U ^_^"
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#2
I am very tempted to insult you in every way possible.

This is a horrible post. Or a really annoying troll.

Don't you think that too many people have guns? If suddenly nobody had weapons, through some deus ex machina force, would that really be so bad? The problem with the current gun control is that using a gun to solve your problems is too easily available. Don't like someone? Get a gun and shoot them. It's entirely too easy.
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Arrg Wrote:I am very tempted to insult you in every way possible.

This is a horrible post. Or a really annoying troll.

Don't you think that too many people have guns? If suddenly nobody had weapons, through some deus ex machina force, would that really be so bad? The problem with the current gun control is that using a gun to solve your problems is too easily available. Don't like someone? Get a gun and shoot them. It's entirely too easy.

"Nations with stringent anti-gun laws generally have substantially higher murder rates than those that do not. The study found that the nine European nations with the lowest rates of gun ownership (5,000 or fewer guns per 100,000 population) have a combined murder rate three times higher than that of the nine nations with the highest rates of gun ownership (at least 15,000 guns per 100,000 population)."

http://theacru.org/acru/harvard_study_gu...roductive/

Why the pineapple would I troll about this.
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It's funny how they think criminals are going to go like "whelp, I guess we got to give up our unregistered and illegally obtained guns guys!" lol it's like Cocain being illegal but people are still selling and hitting it everyday. This'll just un-arm the law abiding citizens mostly although having an assault rifle in the first place is pretty crazy, I don't have a problem with that removal. Just a certified hand gun is ideal especially if you live in a bad neighbor hood.
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#5
First start crediting some REPUTABLE SOURCES (no .org websites or websites that contain one sided arguments/support) and then I will start taking you seriously.
Actually, no. I'll probably still debunk everything you try to say.
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#6
Your poll in the context of your opening post is a very loaded question. It's set up where anyone that answers yes could be construed as supporting your view/opinion, though people are unlikely to be inclined to say "No, I do not support a freedom granted in the Bill of Rights."
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Afeared Wrote:the people, who are above the constitution that is above the government

I read about this far.


No one is above the Constitution. No one. If Obama impedes the rights of United States of America citizens from being able to purchase and own firearms, shit will hit the fan.


Unless there's another "Continental Congress," (which is illegal, by the way, as much as it was illegal back then) which overwrites the Constitution, the right to own guns will never be taken away. Besides, with the way our government exists these days, there's no possible way they'll ever come to a proper rewrite of the Constitution. There's nothing to ever worry about.
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#8
Your argument went out the window the moment you compared this to what Hitler did in 1939. Actually, scratch that: You lost the game right at the title.
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Corrai Wrote:It's funny how they think criminals are going to go like "whelp, I guess we got to give up our unregistered and illegally obtained guns guys!" lol it's like Cocain being illegal but people are still selling and hitting it everyday. This'll just un-arm the law abiding citizens mostly although having an assault rifle in the first place is pretty crazy, I don't have a problem with that removal. Just a certified hand gun is ideal especially if you live in a bad neighbor hood.

They send military officials to your home and if you don't give up your gun, they kill you.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-t...-citizens/

And I'm sorry if I didn't post a mainstream source of news for you guys, its not like any of those give truths anyways.

Link Wrote:I read about this far.


No one is above the Constitution. No one. If Obama impedes the rights of United States of America citizens from being able to purchase and own firearms, shit will hit the fan.


Unless there's another "Continental Congress," (which is illegal, by the way, as much as it was illegal back then) which overwrites the Constitution, the right to own guns will never be taken away. Besides, with the way our government exists these days, there's no possible way they'll ever come to a proper rewrite of the Constitution. There's nothing to ever worry about.

Okay, I apologize. I should have worded that differently. The people have the power of the constitution which limits the government. People have the Constitution. Constitution > Government. People have power over the government via constitution. If anyone tries to take their guns by force, the people have the right to defend themselves with guns.
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Curtiss Wrote:Your argument went out the window the moment you compared this to what Hitler did in 1939. Actually, scratch that: You lost the game right at the title.

Godwin's Law in full effect.
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#11
You need to stop posting threads like this.
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MasPan Wrote:Godwin's Law in full effect.

Godwin's law says that in any discussion, a comparison to hitler in the holocaust will be brought up.

Hitler was the most infamous dictator I chose to use. Now since you've felt like poking at that I'll compare to other people.

Joseph Stalin, Benito Mussolini, Mao Tze Tung, and Pol Pot all promoted gun control. You think they were good people? Other tyrants also promoted this, Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, and Karl Marx.

Now lets look at all of the people who have promoted freedom and gun rights: George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, John Adams, George Mason, James Madison, William Pitt, Noah Webster, George Orwell, Dalai Lama, Mohandas Ghandi, and Richard Henry Lee.

Jedward Wrote:You need to stop posting threads like this.

You need to stop making posts like this.
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#13
I might regret saying this but I believe that restricting certain weaponry to the general public, and making it so that people that use a gun to only defend themselves can get their hands on one, plus having to prove they would be the only ones with access to such weapon is the way to go.
Having guns around just for your bullied kid to pick when things get out of control should not be something that can happen every month on any country.

Also, saying that it's a tyranny might be going too far.
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Eliseo Wrote:only defend themselves can get their hands on one

What about hunters?
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Eliseo Wrote:Also, saying that it's a tyranny might be going too far.

Even if it's not a tyranny, it creates large potential for the United States to fall under a tyrant leader, whether it be Obama or anyone else who is sick enough to do whatever they want to a disarmed nation. There are monsters in this world known as psychopaths, and to believe that there simply aren't any in powerful government positions is a big mistake.
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Link Wrote:What about hunters?
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Afeared Wrote:Even if it's not a tyranny, it creates large potential for the United States to fall under a tyrant leader, whether it be Obama or anyone else who is sick enough to do whatever they want to a disarmed nation.

really?

Quote:And I'm sorry if I didn't post a mainstream source of news for you guys, its not like any of those give truths anyways.

define a trustworthy news source in your opinion and with an example
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Maspan Wrote:Throwing knives or bows, obviously.
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Afeared Wrote:What do you guys think about this? Do you really think its good that the people, who are above the constitution that is above the government, get stripped of their self defense?

As was pointed out, no one is above the constitution. Not you, me, the president, or anyone.

Afeared Wrote:If anyone tries to take their guns by force, the people have the right to defend themselves with guns.

That's not how that works. We're not even discussing taking guns by force. We're talking about limiting the sale and distribution of certain classes of guns.

Afeared Wrote:In case you think Obama is a good person who wants to protect the children of the United States. And that he wants to stop mass shootings which have probably been psychologically triggered by mass media (THE DARK KNIGHT RISES). You should probably watch this video...

I'm sorry, but you lost any credibility you still had at this point. This video doesn't help your point, and just looks like absurd propaganda.

Afeared Wrote:The only reason I could think of for wanting to strip a nation of its constitution and its only defense against tyranny, is tyranny. I'm not saying Obama is the next world dictator but wtp... he probably is. Hitler also passed laws prohibiting Jews from owning guns in 1938, GUESS WHAT HAPPENED IN 1939!

You keep using that word, "dictator". I do not think it means what you think it means. You are comparing one of the worst men in history to a decent President that has made mistakes, but has also succeeded in some areas. I'm not saying Obama is a great president, but he isn't a dictator by any stretch of the imagination, unless your imagination is a subsidiary of Fox News.

I support the second amendment to a point. It's in there for a reason. But at the same time, I also support gun control. I have no objection to people with the proper training and ability using certain types of guns for self defense. But I'm to this day unsure of as to WHY civilians need assault rifles or anything similar.
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Quote:But I'm to this day unsure of as to WHY civilians need assault rifles or anything similar.

Zombie apocalypse Rolleyes
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