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#21
Worthyness Wrote:128-138 is like the worst levels EVER. You barely have 1 4th job skill maxed and there are no decent mobs to train at either. Though i think Monster park covers that fairly well, you still need to get fricken tickets for it. My cannon master and Mechanic just did red leaf through these levels, but i find doing quest is fine and dandy too. My buccaneer I believe I did Time Temple quests for everything. Decent % per hour and no one bothers you.
ToT quests for 128-138? I thought someone upthread just said the level req was 140. And that's just the first one; after that they come at five-level intervals.
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#22
Killmeplsok Wrote:There's always PQs, which is what MSEAers doing right now.

Then it would be better rather than having hackers leveling to 200 faster.
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#23
Nion Wrote:Imagine if Nexon took away the party play like they were supposed to.

Then Maple would be a slightly better place.
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#24
Worthyness Wrote:128-138 is like the worst levels EVER. You barely have 1 4th job skill maxed and there are no decent mobs to train at either. Though i think Monster park covers that fairly well, you still need to get fricken tickets for it. My cannon master and Mechanic just did red leaf through these levels, but i find doing quest is fine and dandy too. My buccaneer I believe I did Time Temple quests for everything. Decent % per hour and no one bothers you.

Unless it's different in GMS, you can't even do Monster Park until 135. There's that huge gap between like 105 and 135 where there's no Monster Park, and you can't use the first door to use older areas, and you can't use the second door either. It's beyond stupid. 120-135 is definitely the worst level range for boredom because of this issue. I'm really not sure why they did it like that.

Thankfully though, 120-135 are also the quickest fourth job levels if you know what you're doing. Papping and Zakuming daily can easily get you past this threshold. Dragon Valley has a few decent maps for training, as well as Gigantic Vikings and some other stuff like plenty of PQs that start at 120. Yeah, it will take a few days, but there's no reason you should be getting 15-20 levels in fourth job in a single day anyway.

Nion Wrote:Imagine if Nexon took away the party play like they were supposed to.

People would have to work for Level 120+? OHHHH SHIIIT! Can't have that!
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#25
Nion Wrote:Then it would be better rather than having hackers leveling to 200 faster.

I think so, but it's much tedious.

40 PQs a day, about 10% per day for a late 19x or about 40% for a 18x.

Things that most people there do nowadays are PQ 40 times and chat/do random stuff or do PQs on another character, repeats when a new day start.
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#26
I'm doing Azwan's hard mode, I can't clear it but I get 20% every run + some honor exp.
I did Pap this morning and will try Zak tomorrow... With a 16k range it shouldn't take so long, I hope.
I think I can level by just doing those 3 things until ToT.
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#27
Cere Wrote:Actually, the majority of Dragon Forest is 130+, starting with Rextons at lv131 and ending at lv153 Skelesaurus. I trained at Cornians for 13x, myself. Of course there are botters all over the place, but it's not like ToT doesn't have botters all over the place too.

Ha, I actually forgot they revamped that area. Even though I trained my Hero at Rextons for a while (mostly for the coins).
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#28
Worthyness Wrote:128-138 is like the worst levels EVER. You barely have 1 4th job skill maxed and there are no decent mobs to train at either.

Noe City boss farming is good / great EXP at 125+. I used to do it on my Phantom when I couldn't get a LHC party. Got to 135 or so, then I went to MP and whatnot.
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#29
Cere Wrote:Bugged? I had no problems getting it (obtained within the past four weeks, I'm pretty sure). Only problem is finding a party, I don't think it's super popular.

No, it's not but I found people in ElNath willing to help.

Polantaris Wrote:Unless it's different in GMS, you can't even do Monster Park until 135. There's that huge gap between like 105 and 135 where there's no Monster Park, and you can't use the first door to use older areas, and you can't use the second door either. It's beyond stupid. 120-135 is definitely the worst level range for boredom because of this issue. I'm really not sure why they did it like that.
I don't really like Monster Park anyway. It's just too boring. Almost as boring as Aswan.

EDIT: Also, I heard that Red Leaf High Event gives good exp. I'll give it a try and hopefully it'll help :3.
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#30
Words Wrote:No, it's not but I found people in ElNath willing to help.


I don't really like Monster Park anyway. It's just too boring. Almost as boring as Aswan.

EDIT: Also, I heard that Red Leaf High Event gives good exp. I'll give it a try and hopefully it'll help :3.

Monster Park at least has progression and changing maps. Way better than staying in LHC all day.

Maple High gives me like 10% per run at 169 on my Kanna. I heard that it's even better in GMS, but it might just be the level difference from the people who are reporting it in GMS from my Kanna. I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me if GMS made it give more experience, since they like doing that. It's definitely good exp, but you can only do it once a day (at least in JMS) unless you buy more keys.
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#31
Polantaris Wrote:Monster Park at least has progression and changing maps. Way better than staying in LHC all day.

Maple High gives me like 10% per run at 169 on my Kanna. I heard that it's even better in GMS, but it might just be the level difference from the people who are reporting it in GMS from my Kanna. I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me if GMS made it give more experience, since they like doing that. It's definitely good exp, but you can only do it once a day (at least in JMS) unless you buy more keys.

Pretty much the same thing in GMS, yeah. It's better, the higher leveled you are, ironically.

I personally did MPQ on my Mercedes until 14x and on my Bucc until 13x, but that was during every 2x event. Otherwise... I've yet to get any characters beyond 13x on anything else unless it was LHC. I'd rather not train at LHC either, I'm really hoping an alternative comes along soon enough.
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#32
Polantaris Wrote:Maple High gives me like 10% per run at 169 on my Kanna. I heard that it's even better in GMS,

The LOWEST possible % you can get from a run in GMS is 10.91% (This is what you get at lvl 199.) In GMS, a RLHS run at lvl 169 is roughly 16% (I don't have my handy chart with with me.)
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#33
Thorr Wrote:The LOWEST possible % you can get from a run in GMS is 10.91% (This is what you get at lvl 199.) In GMS, a RLHS run at lvl 169 is roughly 16% (I don't have my handy chart with with me.)

I find it stupid that GMS constantly makes it far too easy to level. If there was end-game content I could excuse it but there isn't. There's no reason for everything to give significantly more EXP than the other versions.
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#34
Polantaris Wrote:I find it stupid that GMS constantly makes it far too easy to level. If there was end-game content I could excuse it but there isn't. There's no reason for everything to give significantly more EXP than the other versions.

Do you have the same version of RLHS that we do? KMS had a different one than we do and it gives less Exp.
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#35
Thorr Wrote:The LOWEST possible % you can get from a run in GMS is 10.91% (This is what you get at lvl 199.) In GMS, a RLHS run at lvl 169 is roughly 16% (I don't have my handy chart with with me.)

I got like 30% out of it before math failed me. Or I failed math...
I'm prepared for it next time!
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#36
Thorr Wrote:Do you have the same version of RLHS that we do? KMS had a different one than we do and it gives less Exp.

I have no idea. I'd have to see it to know.

Words Wrote:I got like 30% out of it before math failed me. Or I failed math...
I'm prepared for it next time!

Start -> Run -> Calc
Problem solved.
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#37
Azwan hard mode for 120-160 is actually pretty good experience. I was there on my Evan 130-150 with a full party of six and HS and it's almost comparable to unglitched LHC party (maybe like half). You do need some medium funding or very good mobbing capabilities, though (Flame Wheel hits 10 and has mega range). It also burns pots like mad. If you run into the tower/rocks or laser/bombs.
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#38
Dark Link Wrote:Then Maple would be a slightly better place.

Why blame the party-play when it's the hackers to be blamed for? I know KMS is dealing with no party-play, but it sounds like you're blaming the feature than the hackers.
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#39
inSAMMIty Wrote:Why blame the party-play when it's the hackers to be blamed for? I know KMS is dealing with no party-play, but it sounds like you're blaming the feature than the hackers.

Because it encourages it.
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#40
KhainiWest Wrote:Because it encourages it.

It encourages leeching in general, but only because of the 60/40 exp split. If they changed it back to 80/20 you'd see less people leeching.
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