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Never mind what I said about Cooling Effect. This is how a Valkyrie would train at Jr. Newties:

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(yes, I'm aware that's a hermit)

Triple Fire bends in the same way as Lucky 7 so a Valkyrie could just snipe that one Jr. Newtie and use Gaviota occasionally to deal more damage. Once that Newtie is dead, you could summon Octopus on the platform below and hopefully make it back up to the safe spot in time.

Would Gaviota reach that far? o_0
*not sure how far it flies*

Would Gaviota reach that far? o_0
*not sure how far it flies*

I think it would. It has a 400% range. Though I think it might fly up and hit the Newtie on the top platform xD. At least it'll slowly kill that one while you spam Triple Fire on the one below.

I think it would. It has a 400% range. Though I think it might fly up and hit the Newtie on the top platform xD. At least it'll slowly kill that one while you spam Triple Fire on the one below.

Air Strike has 400% range, but goes Gaviota? D: Fiel's list say nothing about the flying range. :[

Air Strike has 400% range, but goes Gaviota? D: Fiel's list say nothing about the flying range. :[

It says 400 range, it's just that there's no range picture. Gaviota flies around at 400 range until it finds the closest monster to attack then disappears.

It says 400 range, it's just that there's no range picture. Gaviota flies around at 400 range until it finds the closest monster to attack then disappears.

Oh. Lol.
B>Reading lessons

Lol @ Lolmarket
http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/764193/7/

It's weird, he says Rapid Fire is faster. o__o

Oh. Lol.
B>Reading lessons

Lol @ Lolmarket
http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/764193/7/

It's weird, he says Rapid Fire is faster. o__o

:f6:

And that's why I don't use Basil xD

There's solid video proof that Rapid Fire is 8 shots/second. I don't see how he can say it's faster.

:f6:

And that's why I don't use Basil xD

There's solid video proof that Rapid Fire is 8 shots/second. I don't see how he can say it's faster.

Well, where was Hurricane timed?
Maybe he just eye-balls it? :/

Well, where was Hurricane timed?
Maybe he just eye-balls it? :/

Or do a frame-by-frame measurement

Hmm, even that level 187 Captain said Rapid Fire is faster. :f6:

I'm not sure where the Hurricane speed came from. I think the general consensus on SW is that it's roughly 8 Arrows/second.

Or do a frame-by-frame measurement

That makes sense, and it's how I measured speeds from videos. Not sure if he did it or not. :/

The Hurricane speed was measured by testing how many arrows were wasted over varying time lapses. Over the course of 10, 15, 20, 30, and 60 seconds, the conclusion was drawn that Hurricane uses exactly 500 Arrows per minute, or 8.33 arrows per second. A frame-by-frame analysis is worthless as frames will vary depending on server, computer, and connection speed. That video you posted, the Captain spent 300 bullets in 35 seconds. Thus, 514 bullets per minute. For any matter, it cannot be 8 bullets per second because the total time of the video is 35 seconds and the most bullets possibly spent at that rate would be 280.

I'll analyze the image in a moment, but from an initial look, I doubt Cooling Effect or Fake Shot could either reach the Newties from a safe distance.

EDIT: Here it is


Decided against stacking the images since that blends the semi-transparent colours. Blue is Cooling Effect. Yellow/Green is Fake Shot. Red is Rapid Fire/Triple Fire. Pink is Octopus. White is Gaviota upon impact.

What you need to know:
The ranges are all effective from the centre of the character, I believe. As far as I know, that's how all ranges are measured. The images are all lined up, on their right edge, to be the minimal (more or less) distance to hit the Jr. Newtie. I extended the image 50 pixels to the left since Triple Fire's range is much longer and you can stand further back. An interesting thing about Fake Shot is that its hit box doesn't originate from where the other skills do. That's noted by the Solid Yellow Line beside its box. That's where you're shooting from with Fake Shot and hopefully hitting that Newtie. You can be a slight bit further back with Cooling Effect, but I'd still say it's too risky. Well, assuming that's too close where it is right now. I haven't been to Newties in a long time, can't recall the exact distance.
Octopus's range is pretty decent, you shouldn't have problems casting it down there. Gaviota has two ranges. One for the distance that it can fly, and another for the hit box that it bombs in. If you're standing at exactly centre in the screen, Gaviota will be able to hit anything on either side of you that's visible. At least, that's what I can perceive from the data. Its hitbox is signified with that white box. Upon striking, like the Archer AoE skills, it will explode causing said box to originate, centred, from that exact point.

Hmm, even that level 187 Captain said Rapid Fire is faster. :f6:

I'm not sure where the Hurricane speed came from. I think the general consensus on SW is that it's roughly 8 Arrows/second.

This goes in line with what JoeTang said, but I've timed Hurricane myself several times. I think I did it like 10 times in a row with a 60 second interval. Every single time I got between 490 and 500. I'm not sure exactly how many arrows it is, but 5.3 is a very good estimate considering my margin of error.

Wow thanks for the image, JoeTang. It really helps support the current 3rd job build I have up. As I posted a bit earlier, Fake Shot/Cooling Effect aren't useful there at all since you'd be sniping from that safe spot but it's good to see that Gaviota and Octopus are useful.

As for Rapid Fire's speed, it is 300 bullets/36 seconds or 8.33... bullets per second, which is the same as Hurricane. If you watch the video, you'll see that it's 36 seconds long. She starts firing right away with 300 bullets in her inventory and it stops immediately as the bullets run out. The only lag I noticed was when the Arch Mage in the background decided to use Blizzard but I don't think it affected her results.

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The Hurricane speed was measured by testing how many arrows were wasted over varying time lapses. Over the course of 10, 15, 20, 30, and 60 seconds, the conclusion was drawn that Hurricane uses exactly 500 Arrows per minute, or 8.33 arrows per second. A frame-by-frame analysis is worthless as frames will vary depending on server, computer, and connection speed. That video you posted, the Captain spent 300 bullets in 35 seconds. Thus, 514 bullets per minute. For any matter, it cannot be 8 bullets per second because the total time of the video is 35 seconds and the most bullets possibly spent at that rate would be 280.

I'll analyze the image in a moment, but from an initial look, I doubt Cooling Effect or Fake Shot could either reach the Newties from a safe distance.

EDIT: Here it is


Decided against stacking the images since that blends the semi-transparent colours. Blue is Cooling Effect. Yellow/Green is Fake Shot. Red is Rapid Fire/Triple Fire. Pink is Octopus. White is Gaviota upon impact.

What you need to know:
The ranges are all effective from the centre of the character, I believe. As far as I know, that's how all ranges are measured. The images are all lined up, on their right edge, to be the minimal (more or less) distance to hit the Jr. Newtie. I extended the image 50 pixels to the left since Triple Fire's range is much longer and you can stand further back. An interesting thing about Fake Shot is that its hit box doesn't originate from where the other skills do. That's noted by the Solid Yellow Line beside its box. That's where you're shooting from with Fake Shot and hopefully hitting that Newtie. You can be a slight bit further back with Cooling Effect, but I'd still say it's too risky. Well, assuming that's too close where it is right now. I haven't been to Newties in a long time, can't recall the exact distance.
Octopus's range is pretty decent, you shouldn't have problems casting it down there. Gaviota has two ranges. One for the distance that it can fly, and another for the hit box that it bombs in. If you're standing at exactly centre in the screen, Gaviota will be able to hit anything on either side of you that's visible. At least, that's what I can perceive from the data. Its hitbox is signified with that white box. Upon striking, like the Archer AoE skills, it will explode causing said box to originate, centred, from that exact point.

I'm just curious, but how do you come up with those ranges? o.0
Not saying they're wrong, but I have no idea how you can just put them there. D:
Share pls.

I'm just curious, but how do you come up with those ranges? o.0
Not saying they're wrong, but I have no idea how you can just put them there. D:
Share pls.

I have copies of the Pirate Skill Data from Fiel. The Triple Fire Box should more be a single pixel line since it doesn't have a limited height labeled. Most likely, it's based on angle and length (Great, now I remember things about polar equations). I just made the box bigger to see it. The same applies for Octopus.

I have copies of the Pirate Skill Data from Fiel. The Triple Fire Box should more be a single pixel line since it doesn't have a limited height labeled. Most likely, it's based on angle and length (Great, now I remember things about polar equations). I just made the box bigger to see it. The same applies for Octopus.

waitwut?

What kind of information do you need to make those boxes? ._.

I don't get why you think Fire Burner is so bad. I see a lot of videos where people are using it. It even has the effect where it the attack continues to damage the monster after you shoot them. I think it's a great skill and its worth maxing. I would take points out of cooling effect and make it to level 25. Or bring Gaviota back down to 15.

I don't get why you think Fire Burner is so bad. I see a lot of videos where people are using it. It even has the effect where it the attack continues to damage the monster after you shoot them. I think it's a great skill and its worth maxing. I would take points out of cooling effect and make it to level 25. Or bring Gaviota back down to 15.

I've only seen one video of it used.

The effect damage really isn't noticeable at all. It does less than a F/P's poison. If you're just using it for the effect damage, it's better to keep spamming another attack since the effect damage is hardly noticeable at all. As a mob attack, Battleship Torpedo is already better than it at level 1 even against Fire-Weak mobs. Plus, is it worth giving up precious USE inventory slots for Blaze Capsules when Fire Burner is hardly a useful skill?

Gaviota on the other hand does a lot of damage and it has a huge range. It's a summon too so it attacks by itself.

How long does the Burn's effect last? o.0