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DrRusty Wrote:The whole purpose behind Elemental wands was to lesson the cost of ultimate spamming by making the mages stronger. There's also a poison and lightnin wand to help with single target damage. The thing is, we have cheap pots that allow us to spam our ultimates without hurting the wallet to much. Honestly I think this is a good move on Nexon's part.
Insanely cheap pots + an elemental boost to a mages element? That way to much if u ask me. Its either one or the other.
lol....well... even if they did intend not to put elemental bonuses.... they didn't even bother to inform or mention to us...
elemental boost + cheap pots? is too much... lol
the only thing good about this is.... good for bishops and good for nexon...
i'll like to add... for mages it's roughly 1 mana bull per ultimate... it is cheaper than other servers... but without hb... it is still very costly for AM's...
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They could have just made it not work with Blizzard and Meteo.
So much for us Mage gaining some ground on other jobs at bossing...
How typically Nexon tho.
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Well, they forgot about bishops then, lol >_>
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@ 2 post^ yep that's damn right. typical nexon the stupid AM/paladin/shadower haters they are =.="
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Cyanne Wrote:Well, they forgot about bishops then, lol >_>
They should add Holy ones too, I never got what they didn't.
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DrRusty Wrote:The whole purpose behind Elemental wands was to lesson the cost of ultimate spamming by making the mages stronger. There's also a poison and lightnin wand to help with single target damage. The thing is, we have cheap pots that allow us to spam our ultimates without hurting the wallet to much. Honestly I think this is a good move on Nexon's part.
Insanely cheap pots + an elemental boost to a mages element? That way to much if u ask me. Its either one or the other.
You don't seem to count the fact that bishops who were never supposed to have these weapons have access to the same pots as arch mages, plus your ultimate is WAY cheaper. The new pots are great, but its still obnoxiously expensive to cast bliz or meteor unless you have a hb mule. Nexon just gave the mage class a big middle finger.
And no, they should NEVER EVER EVER add a holy weapon, bishops are perfect the way they are and don't need more power to go along with their already cheap mp cost. You are the most useful class, and the fastest 4th job lvlers, what more do you want?
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erich336 Wrote:because they dont wanna "unbalance the game"
its already hermitstory, its unbalanced enough already lolbishops.
All this does is make lukless bishops potentially more powerful, it doesn't help with the arch mages nearly as much until we get the time temple (and even then for some reason the fire things are not weak to ice)... Honestly this deserve a good old punch in the groin for Nexon. Why did they make so many types? ...If they are all basically the same (per level group, 70,105,130,163).
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godofturtles Wrote:The new pots are great, but its still obnoxiously expensive to cast bliz or meteor unless you have a hb mule. Lol I did train w/o a HB mule for a few 2x exp's with a friend of mine I lost 9m per 4 hours.
godofturtles Wrote:Nexon just gave the mage class a big middle finger. Amen.
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Avus Wrote:They should add Holy ones too, I never got what they didn't.
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You must be joking, there is no way that bishops need these.
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The humourous thing about the reply ticket is the "what, you thought elemental looking wands that are elemental in other versions are going to be elemental here too???" type of response. What else were we supposed to think?
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yea, they ALREADY have cheap ultimates, godly party skills, powerful single target, what the hell else could you want? our ONLY advantage? and they're called ELEMENTAL staffs
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My lvl 9 bliz hurts my wallet a LOT because I started this mage on a whim and never even intended to go anywhere with it. But it was my first lukless i/l and it was too good lol, so I ended up at lvl 120 with only enough to really bliz my way to 13x. Now I almost never level because bliz got too expensive when I raised it to 9. I'm even being pressured to raise it to 20 and that would make me constantly broke even with the NLC pots. These weapons were my hope to finally be dealing enough damage to help lessen the cost and put us on par with bishops, but if this is for real then quitting my mage isn't looking like a bad idea right now.
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Look at it this way, they added godly lukless weapons that benefit everyone. Now you can truly laugh at me for having a 98 luk base, because now it would truly be impossible for a luk mage to catch up to a lukless mage. (Whereas before, there was a certain combination of equips that allowed a luk mage to be stronger than a lukless mage)
And the elemental weapons aren't even as rare as the ones in other versions. I heard that in MSEA, the elemental weapons are just as rare as a white scroll.
BTW, this means cheap elemental weapons for all, and just treat them as another update item, like how they implemented the blade staff or the pyogo, or what other items they put in the gach machine.
All I can say is GG to those trying so desperately to gain the advantage and getting it shoved back in their faces.
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Harrisonized Wrote:Look at it this way, they added godly lukless weapons that benefit everyone. Now you can truly laugh at me for having a 98 luk base, because now it would truly be impossible for a luk mage to catch up to a lukless mage. (Whereas before, there was a certain combination of equips that allowed a luk mage to be stronger than a lukless mage)
And the elemental weapons aren't even as rare as the ones in other versions. I heard that in MSEA, the elemental weapons are just as rare as a white scroll.
BTW, this means cheap elemental weapons for all, and just treat them as another update item, like how they implemented the blade staff or the pyogo, or what other items they put in the gach machine.
All I can say is GG to those trying so desperately to gain the advantage and getting it shoved back in their faces. 
Even with the elemental advantage luk mages were still screwed.
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Harrisonized Wrote:All I can say is GG to those trying so desperately to gain the advantage and getting it shoved back in their faces. 
I don't even know how to respond to this. You're a fire arch mage, are you for real? Have fun getting owned by bishops in every way.
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godofturtles Wrote:I don't even know how to respond to this. You're a fire arch mage, are you for real? Have fun getting owned by bishops in every way. I could care less about what damages other people can do. :f6:
I don't see why you seem so concerned that other people are beating you in terms of damage.
BTW, I found this while browsing the mage section of sleepywood.
http://www.sleepywood.net/forum/showthre...?t=1481722
mollypop Wrote:hate to say this but.... i got a similar response. worded differently so def not an automated reply. it was from the same GM. lemme go login to CnP it....
please don;t laugh at my ticket i filed it late at night before bed 
so my question exactly as sent:
and the exact reply cut n pasted:
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Harrisonized Wrote:I could care less about what damages other people can do. :f6:
I don't see why you seem so concerned that other people are beating you in terms of damage.
BTW, I found this while browsing the mage section of sleepywood.
http://www.sleepywood.net/forum/showthre...?t=1481722
he got owned ._.
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I care because these weapons were supposed to give arch mages the advantage they needed, but now they are only making lukless bishops even more unbeatable.
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godofturtles Wrote:I care because these weapons were supposed to give arch mages the advantage they needed, but now they are only making lukless bishops even more unbeatable.
They give the same boost to AM's and Bishops, so stop complaining how its making bishops so good.... besides AMs are still one of the easy classes to train. If you need money so badly go spam blizzard at WS => easy money.
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wobbufet Wrote:They give the same boost to AM's and Bishops, so stop complaining how its making bishops so good....
Well, they give (gave?) 1.25x to the primary element, 1.1x to the secondary, and 0.75x to everything else. Holy is an element.
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