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Chameleonic Wrote:I agree with Hazzy. The hackers however did not cause the way nexon has bungled the "compensation" or them saying they would only rollback those people who were part of the exploit. Nexon has royally stuffed up the way they have handled this.
If the hackers didnt cause the whole exploit we wouldnt be in this whole mess right now would we? Your talking about compensation for someone that happen because a public mesos exploit was relased.
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street Wrote:Are you fcking retard or just mentally challenged?
Who caused nexon to do the roll back? HACKERS!
WHo caused nexon to shut down the servers? HACKERS
Nexon responded to the hackers, but the hackers did not directly cause Nexon to royally pineapple up. There are millions of ways Nexon could have responded to this: Not all of them involved pineappleing over every active player.
If I punched you in the face, and you responded by beating me with a pipe, who caused the pipe beating? I didn't beat myself with the pipe, nor did I force you to do it. You beat me with the pipe by your own free will. Many different ways you could have reacted, but you chose that one. It was your fault. The metaphor carries to Nexon.
Arguments are fine and all, but can you refrain from calling me names? That's just rude. :[
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street Wrote:Are you fcking retard or just mentally challenged?
Who caused nexon to do the roll back? HACKERS!
WHo caused nexon to shut down the servers? HACKERS
No.
Hackers caused nexon to have to seek a solution. At no point did the hackers force anyone at nexon to decide that thousands of accounts to be rolled back that had absolutely nothing to do with what was going on. Nexon has screwed up its *solution* and that is their fault, blaming it on hackers just makes you look silly. It certainly isn't logical.
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street Wrote:If the hackers didnt cause the whole exploit we wouldnt be in this whole mess right now would we? Your talking about compensation for someone that happen because a public mesos exploit was relased.
if nexon did program they game well, hackers wouldnt find that exploit, so no need of rollback, in the end its nexon fault for their poor programing skills.
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CrazyNomad Wrote:if nexon did program they game well, hackers wouldnt find that exploit, so no need of rollback, in the end its nexon fault for their poor programing skills.
No matter what, there's always a hacker looking for a way around things. It really doesn't matter how much security you have.
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Sorry that is not something we can do on our side. Unfortunately, as much as we wanted to extend the event (and we definitely considered it) it was not possible.
Not possible...surely you jest.
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This is just bullsh'it.
Nexon said they had a solution to properly get rid of the mesos.
Instead, they just said oh just f'uck it all, roll 'em back to hell.
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Hazzy Wrote:Nexon responded to the hackers, but the hackers did not directly cause Nexon to royally pineapple up. There are millions of ways Nexon could have responded to this: Not all of them involved pineappleing over every active player.
If I punched you in the face, and you responded by beating me with a pipe, who caused the pipe beating? I didn't beat myself with the pipe, nor did I force you to do it. You beat me with the pipe by your own free will. Many different ways you could have reacted, but you chose that one. It was your fault. The metaphor carries to Nexon.
Arguments are fine and all, but can you refrain from calling me names? That's just rude. :[
Lol how is my fault for something you choose to do in the first place? You choose to punch me in the face. You could have not punched me in the face and the pipe beating wouldnt have happen.
I dont see how your trying to justify something that was started from YOU. The same way if you kill someone what happens? They can just let you go but they throw you in jail and give you life or the chair. Who fault is it now? The law? I guess so
Lozmaster Wrote:No.
Hackers caused nexon to have to seek a solution. At no point did the hackers force anyone at nexon to decide that thousands of accounts to be rolled back that had absolutely nothing to do with what was going on. Nexon has screwed up its *solution* and that is their fault, blaming it on hackers just makes you look silly. It certainly isn't logical.
How does the rollback have nothing to do with what the hackers cause? So if nexon just would have taken out all the mesos from the ones that had fake mesos, what about the ones that lost their items? They could have done a individual rollback but lets think for a second how many people exploited this? How long do you think it would take to sift through each account individually? If it took them a whole day just to do everyone accounts imagine going one by one will take. Maple will still be down.
I'm done with this whole nexon caused the rollback.
ok lets make this clear i know nexon fcked up on how they handled the situations, remind me you i got affected along with all of you. So i know how it feels but i'm not going to put all my rage against nexon for an exploit they couldnt control.
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Street, I love Nexon, I really do.
But they lied to the entire playerbase.
They still f'ucked up, no matter what angle you look at it.
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street Wrote:Lol how is my fault for something you choose to do in the first place? You choose to punch me in the face. You could have not punched me in the face and the pipe beating wouldnt have happen.
You chose to proceed with the pipe beating. While you may have been provoked, you still chose to do it. It is your fault. You had the option to not do it. You had millions of options, but you chose that one.
Quote:I dont see how your trying to justify something that was started from YOU. The same way if you kill something what happens? They can just let you go but they throw you in jail and give you life or the chair. Who fault is it now? The law? I guess so
This is different because the law clearly states what will happen if you do it. Nexon never said "If a few trillion mesos are duped and flooded into the economy, we are going to ...."
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Ryukiroku Wrote:No matter what, there's always a hacker looking for a way around things. It really doesn't matter how much security you have.
If they did program the NPC to not accept negative values, it wouldn't have happened, but since the client tell the server what to do, hackers always will find those exploits.
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street Wrote:Lol how is my fault for something you choose to do in the first place? You choose to punch me in the face. You could have not punched me in the face and the pipe beating wouldnt have happen.
I dont see how your trying to justify something that was started from YOU. The same way if you kill someone what happens? They can just let you go but they throw you in jail and give you life or the chair. Who fault is it now? The law? I guess so
=/ I don't see why you're still trying to defend Nexon. Sure, hackers caused this pomegranatestorm but Nexon responded poorly. They fixed the first exploit by removing the mesos and left innocent players alone. This time it looks like they were too lazy so they just decided to roll back everyone. I wasn't even on during this exploit yet I lost my Evan's critical ring.
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calm down everyone
lets just enjoy 42 hours of 2x drop/event for the next 5 days
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To the people having issues getting on. I have logged in real soon after
the server check was over and went into CS to buy a 2x ticket with my maple points.
The balance is laggy it took a few minutes to get it to show up but it did, I bought it, and have been
training in peace since then. So it must not be everybody having trouble.
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