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Untradeable Wrote:Thats good I guess. I just know they're going to have a hard time funding that pomegranate. And then they'll end up taxing us more and blah blah later on everyone has healthcare but about 3% of the people pay for it.

Except that's what the system already is. The whole point of the bill is to distribute the financial stress evenly among the population by requiring coverage of all citizens as opposed to having some 31 million uninsured Americans using the healthcare system when they need (whether it's an ER trip for a car crash or a trip to the doctor's for bronchitis), which puts the added stress on the actually insured contingent to make up the differences.

Devil Wrote:I think the whole civilized world had universal healthcare, except for the USA... :+)

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[quote]The U.S. stands almost entirely alone among developed nations that lack universal health care, shown here in green.[/url]

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Also, @ all of the arguments about ER waits and the actual quality of health care between countries: that's not a question of universal coverage or other financial methods of ensuring affordable, accessible health care for all. The entire healthcare system, like most comprehensive entities, is a collection of various industries that all interact and affect one another with regards to their efficiency and costs.

For example, the issue brought up in this thread about ER visit waits is a concern of available hospital infrastructure, technology, and staff, which are all problems solved by a wide scope of professionals. People like engineers and construction teams need to have the resources and manpower to design and construct the material necessities, and even educators and politicians are involved, in reforming our education system to provide affordable, accessible, world-class education to all American children, from Kindergarten through college, and in providing education and inspiration for these necessary future careers (ie. increasing the number of people going into these aforementioned fields).

Hell, I'd even argue the answer to this question requires societal reform in the part of inspiration. I mean, we as a contemporary society are so focused on our entertainment outlets that glorify the various associated industries who even wants to be a doctor or an engineer anymore? I know I am, to some, the pot calling the kettle black in pursuing a fashion career when I'm qualified for one in microbiology and the medical sciences, but that was an educated, conscious decision made after years of high-quality education, exposure to the wide variety of career fields available, and individual soul-searching. If you gave every kid in every country the same opportunities people like myself and the other privileged percent have, and focused societal efforts on reforming healthcare and education instead of attacking respective legislation or putting entertainment before careers, you'd see a lot more doctors and engineers.

Sorry for the essay, but it just annoys the hell out of me to see people argue that anecdotal horrible health care experiences conclude that universal health care is a widespread problem. That's not even a logical argument if you take a moment to consider the whole picture and put into perspective all of the intersecting industries associated with healthcare, because this is not specific groups of people's problem to solve, it's every one of ours as a global society.
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Supreme Court rules "Obamacare" un... - by Sarah - 2012-06-28, 10:20 AM
Supreme Court rules "Obamacare" un... - by Fiel - 2012-06-28, 10:24 AM
Supreme Court rules "Obamacare" un... - by Blake - 2012-06-28, 10:25 AM
Supreme Court rules "Obamacare" un... - by Devil - 2012-06-28, 11:22 AM
Supreme Court rules "Obamacare" un... - by Netto - 2012-06-28, 12:27 PM
Supreme Court rules "Obamacare" un... - by Kurtle - 2012-06-28, 12:30 PM
Supreme Court rules "Obamacare" un... - by Fiel - 2012-06-28, 12:32 PM
Supreme Court rules "Obamacare" un... - by Devil - 2012-06-28, 12:37 PM
Supreme Court rules "Obamacare" un... - by Mike - 2012-06-28, 02:06 PM
Supreme Court rules "Obamacare" un... - by Sarah - 2012-06-28, 04:16 PM
Supreme Court rules "Obamacare" un... - by Sarah - 2012-06-28, 04:35 PM
Supreme Court rules "Obamacare" un... - by FrozNlite - 2012-06-28, 09:16 PM
Supreme Court rules "Obamacare" un... - by Flonne - 2012-06-29, 07:16 AM
Supreme Court rules "Obamacare" un... - by Fiel - 2012-06-29, 10:19 AM

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