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Chaos Pinkbean And Resistance Revamp Coming?
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Locked Wrote:It isn't exaggerated. I'm just saying just because it's easy to some doesn't mean it's easy to everyone. This is my main point that I am trying to convey over here.

And i agree with that. What i don't agree with is the idea that PB isn't possible to be killed by any character above, say, 180 or so. Everyone in the level range PB is meant for is capable of seeing pink bean die, and in that sense, PB is not hard anymore.

Empress is on a different level because not every 190+ is capable of the same feat, because the damage output required to take her down limits the amount of soloers by an outrageous amount compared to pink bean. You NEED a group, and not every group is capable of killing her either. Any group can take down pink bean on the other hand.

Locked Wrote:How do you define hard in this category? What if it takes a person multiple attempts before understanding how to do it correctly?

You mean if someone just went straight in and had no idea what to expect at all? I doubt anyone does that, but would that make it hard? No, not really.

What i meant was that you can do research on pink bean outside the fight (like anyone would) and the tricks won't need any experience to win. There's really only 3 things you need to know. Stay out of range of the hawks, go out of range of ariel when she's wep def upped so you won't get hit, and/or only attack pink bean when you know he won't cast DR for X seconds or when he's casting a spell. Pretty simple conditions.


Locked Wrote:I consider Pink Bean more difficult than Empress. Why? Because there is a lower time frame to attack it and it's hard for everyone to follow directions in comparison. If someone messes up with the statues, we're all going to die from seduce and 1/1 because people don't know what to do. If we manage to get to Pink Bean, there is a shorter time frame to attack than Empress. Empress' fight seems much more calming to me than Pink Bean. There aren't full map attacks that bother me or status effects that are retarded. Although the seal on Empress fights is unfair.

Fair enough. The hawks are unforgiving, but the conditions to screw the entire run over is really really simple to understand. Cross this line and we all die. That in itself isn't difficult, the difficulty is making sure the group is competent enough to understand that, which isn't a problem with the boss itself but with people.

The thing that bothers me about empress is just pot cooldown. Often you're given a choice between use an all cure and have 30 seconds to stand there with enough HP where a hit will kill you, or using a potion and being left standing there not being able to attack because of seal/potential lock. That's why pink bean is better. He'll status you a lot, but at least you can get rid of it easily enough.

Locked Wrote:Where is the majority of players that can kill this so easily? Why is it that I don't see Pink Bean defeat messages more commonly than Horntail if this were the case? Why don't I see a large abundance of these things if the majority of the players can do it?

1) The majority would still need to be in a group.
2) The pre-quests are a B'ITCH.
3) There is no profit, only achievement, maybe a little experience, and/or fun.

You know why people don't do it, you answered it below. People doing/not doing it wasn't my point. My point was that they are capable of it.

Locked Wrote:I don't think Chaos Zak and HT turned out "just fine". Chaos Zakum can be solo'd and so can Chaos Horntail. Chaos Horntail is glitched, it has no meaning of even existing because the chance of someone bypassing that glitch for drops is close to zero. Bosses in MapleStory are almost lacklustre because they offer little incentive to do in a group. Which is probably why the question above of which the supposed majority you are defending against don't do Pink Bean. There is no incentive to. The bosses of MapleStory suck.

Exactly. One more reason chaos pink bean is welcome in my book. It's another boss.

Also i disagree on chaos horntail. I went on a run a few weeks ago and didn't expect any splits but i ended up getting 144m. A number that rivaled what PB used to give in splits when he dropped MW 30. Being the only boss capable of still giving that kind of money is incentive to me.

Locked Wrote:For the sake of it, the last thing I want to say is that in order for "high level content" to be pleasing it has to be have an incentive. It has to be difficult and it has to be completed in a group setting. If a person can solo the boss then it is useless to me. Chaos Pink Bean would not be defined to me as "new content", it'd be rehashed content. If I gave you a game and later added a patch with the same exact elements but with a higher difficulty, I wouldn't consider this a new game/content, just a new difficulty setting. If this supposed Chaos Pink Bean does exist and it provides the means of attracting groups of people together to bring it down and lasts that way then it's good high level content.

I agree. I just really hope CPB fulfills that.
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Chaos Pinkbean And Resistance Revamp Coming? - by Takebacker - 2012-06-07, 03:29 PM

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