To those who've quit: What would make you come back?

And what kind of updates would those be exactly?

Places to train in large maps as groups to gain efficiency outside of LHC. A mini boss like Pap, obviously much more enhanced. A story that adds depth to the area, new weapons that don't involve killing an impossible boss that are just as effective, and the ability to actually get decent scrolls through quests/new monsters.

Players just don't give a damn about new maps anymore. At most something is hyped until about a week after it's released, then it's back to the same old thing.

Because they don't offer anything. The training is inferior and the quests straight up suck. The quest stories are completely hashed garbage, and offer a PQ boss that is either completely underpowered, requires NX, or a ridiculous requirement.

Obviously Maple hasn't implemented anything that resembled the Ludi release, well, since the Ludi release.

NLC or leafre, whatever came first, I can't remember.

Not only that, but how many current players in the game ever even experienced that patch? Only the ''old folks'' remember those days, and that's just nostalgia. It's not like Ludi added any content that was actually interesting, it was just that it was something new for those who were so used to not ever having it and they were excited for that new albeit crappy content.

Pretty sure Ludi has offered more than any other area in god knows how long. We get new towns not new continents. The quests were worth doing, the training was very sociable, the rewards of the drops actually had value, and we had a fun miniboss that was actually challenging at the time, including "guard" bosses such as gatekeeper/Lycan's that just added a fun mob to f`uck with.

The same just doesn't apply anymore. Now some content is released and about a week in the players are already bored.
The game just isn't holding up anymore.

Because there is no depth, there is no purpose, you get 4th job in less than 4 hours, only to train harder to get to 160 to get some decent skills, only to find out the end game content is stale. Ludi was the end game content, and it was good end game content for that time. You had something to look foward too "I can Zak, 4th job is coming soon, one day I can solo papulatus myself!". If you died, you couldn't wheel, you died. You failed.

You're hoping that someday a patch brings back that excitement you obviously lost years ago, but is it ever going to come? No.

I'm hoping for nothing, the game is as good as dead to me. The only way they could even attempt to bring me back is if they completely wiped it, and built it from scratch. The only way. I refuse to go back to the remnents of an armaggedon just to scrap up what's left.

You haven't actually presented anything but statements of your opinion, no examples, no anything. Then you assume I want to come back when they finally find a way to recreate that experience. All of the above, no.