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Taking a risk with this.
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Eosian Wrote:The point you're missing is the supreme arrogance you're displaying thinking that doing the exact same thing that's been done for years is suddenly going to work just because you decided to try it.

A nicer word is stubborn but it's not something I'm missing, just optimistically overlooking. Yes there's a difference.

Eosian Wrote:Are you somehow better than everyone else? Is your plan somehow more clever? Are you trying something new and wonderful no one has ever thought of? The answer to all of those is a point blank "No" therefore there is zero reason to believe it will have any more impact than any other time it's been done.

No, I don't believe any of that, petitions fall through because it's signatures, anyone can sign something and write it once in a ticket and it be taken as a hiccup, if not a sneeze. Emails, no real impact as they don't take anything by email seriously, and abusing the only fax number available will close it down. Attempting to use the system against them is not something I've seen successfully because I don't believe enough did it, and I don't think they did it right. And that could be as small as a detail of submitting it incorrectly, or the fact hte ticket system is actually updated. The closest thing we got is an L/A times article that got disregared as sarah being a 12 year old, like the rest of their forum. Publicity, even negative would only work against us. Whether it's clever isn't in question, whether it's been done precisely like this. Even the smallest change in my eyes can make the greatest impact.

Eosian Wrote:Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

But I'm not doing the same thing over and over again, it's measuring the weakest point of a fence, or in this case the greatest penetration. I haven't seen this done, I've seen petitions, new articles, but I've never seen a mass of tickets proposing the same thing, submitted in a way where it will be read. And if it has happened again, was it before or after the ticket system revamp.

Eosian Wrote:The fact that you're taking it personally

My intention is not fully because I'm in the world this is being most abused in, I am putting personal effort into it because I grew up with maplestory, but like a ill mannered teen I can't accept it for what it is at the moment.

Eosian Wrote:that people don't want to do the same pointless crap yet again is just testament to the degree to which you are making it about you. You're not a Maple Messiah. You will not part the Red Sea that is Nexon and lead your people to the promised land. You've done nothing to earn faith, trust, or even respect when all you do is recycling the same crap and treat it like it's suddenly become gold.

But it isn't gold too me. It's just small effort at a large scale in order to possibly gain attention. No matter what you argue, it does gain attention, whether acted on or not is entirely different matter. I'm not trying to argue with you but there's a perception you see and I see. I know your point, I know the other side of the argument that it could fail, and do absolutely nothing, but I want you see that the effort in terms of trying again, isn't all in vain all of the time.

Eosian Wrote:You're not even asking for something that can be measured, so you have no way to even declare this a success. You may as well shout at the sky demanding it stop raining and declare that your victory when it eventually does. Rolleyes

If any action is taken at all, that isn't the same as the previous, I'll declare it a success. If they take a step up to take care of the hacks that control us, rather the ones that annoy us, that is success. I measure it by their action.

I don't believe I'm the god of maple or the "president of khaini" joke that I play around with, otherwise I'd do it myself. What I simply want is a rational group effort to say "We agree to this, we want this, make us happy". With their own tidbits added in. The key word here is chance, instead of investing a dollar, you're investing seconds, and for something that will be read. But as they say, you get what you pay for, which means perhaps 25 seconds of attention.
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