2011-03-22, 07:12 PM
Anonymous Moose Wrote:And in this circumstance, no 3rd party is legally responsible. In the military, this is not the case.
Please define responsible before continuing this conversation because based on your original quote you keep avoiding, you have a completely mistranslation of the word.
Anonymous Moose Wrote:Different countries does make a large difference. Being in the military, and a represenative of our entire country makes a major difference too. The fact that we have an international treaty forbidding the acts also puts this on a higher level than a civil crime, whether we agree with that fact or not.
And Multiple Personality Disorder is very rare, and often includes a very harsh and stressful childhood. Out of all of the cases of war crimes, how many are commited by people with MPD?
I'm talking from a humane standpoint. I'm pretty sure your purposely misinterpreting me because I cannot fathom how you got me comparing the situations legally vs how humans act in general. People kill people because they are pineappleed up and no one knows about it. Military or not, the only difference is whos giving the ass whooping. None the less my point is no establishment can avoid this. Period.
Anonymous Moose Wrote:Does this mean you have no problems with spanking a child being an act of terrorism?
What's the point of terrorism hm? Pretty much threatening with violence and such to get their way. Well the women was cussing the attendant out and throwing tomato juice. Spanking? Not so much of an issue, cursing and making a ruckus over something so pineappleing silly, yes that ignorant peach belongs in jail.
anonymous moose Wrote:Which is probably the second reason I am enraged over this. This should not be business as usual. This should be a rare to non-existant occurance, that when occurs requires swift action, investigation (to see if a commanding officer ordered the torture or if the soldiers acted alone), and apology (although that wont do much to solve the problem, it will bring some comfort that the government acknowledges the problem).
The soldiers did act alone. It's in your damn article that you evidently didn't read. Unless you're throwing away its credibility? Anyway, I'm pretty sure this isn't a common occurance. Do the math and tell me what you come up with. 6 instances vs' uh how many men in iraq right now?.
kanevaldier Wrote:WOW. That is the most rediculous statement I have seen you make thus far. Have you ever even been waterboarded? I think not. Dont talk about things you have no idea about. It is a very effective torture method. It also does do physical harm as well as mental. I have read every statement made in this thread and I believe that you are missing or misinterpreting other posts.
I read this and whole-heartidly lol'd. The only thing ridiculous is the TS coming in and saying its the administrators that have direct control over this. Implied by his statement "Nothing's changed".
As for water boarding,
Waterboarding Wrote:Waterboarding can cause extreme pain, dry drowning, damage to lungs, brain damage from oxygen deprivation, other physical injuries including broken bones due to struggling against restraints, lasting psychological damage and, if uninterrupted, death.
Notice can. Those are possibilities, but once again, nothing too major imo. Brain damage and lung damage can be easily avoided by not doing it for x amount of time. Although I don't reccomend this for every criminal, but a war criminal? pineapple it, I hope you become retarded and so do your children.
And if you really think pulling out of iraq was a realistic, ha.

