2011-03-21, 07:25 PM
kanevaldier Wrote:Intolerable is a relative term since most news stories today fall into that catagory. I know that it seems that Anonymous is rage hating on Obama but that is not really the issue. The issue is the fact the Obama is by far one of the worst presidents in U.S. history. That is due to his policies and actions, but that is for another discussion.
As for me, I am not a republican, I am a constitutionalist. Believe me when I say that I do not agree with republicans any more than I do democrats. Both parties makes asses out of themselves. You are right that I do understand what I am saying. I have spent a considerable amount of my adult life studying history, government (both domestic and foreign affairs) and also military (something I was once part of). I have a greater understanding than most when it comes to that stuff. Also, I dont like what I see comming on the horizon.
Having been in the military I can say this, when it comes to a soldiers actions, the responsibility falls up the chain of command. That chain has the president right at the top. That is what makes it his fault as he is the one who ultimately has to deal with it.
That's just idiotic. The people at fault would be the direct command, it's no better than saying the Muslim who went crazy and shot up the base is Obama's fault. Of course the entire nation his is responsibility, so it's an unrealistic criticism. I don't know about you, but in boot camp, I wasn't taught to do what they did. They were given the proper procedures, spoonfed morality. These people grew a prejudice, which is only natural for any human being in combat.
Obama has no correlation towards this action, strategists, generals, what have you have that responsibility. A soldier who commits treason for even disobeying orders are the ones who shoulder that responsibility, not their direct, let alone indirect chain of command.
Anonymous Moose Wrote:Bolded statements are strawmen.
Anyway, I want a link or proof that these soldiers are being charged.
Although I never said "Obama ordered torture" Bush on the record claimed he did.
And expecting someone to do their job is not unreasonable. If he cant handle it, then get someone that can in office.
Ive never spoken to someone so ignorant in my life. You're blaming Obama for soldiers actions which he did nothing to foreshadow. I assure you not even you could keep that type of tight nit control. Maybe lets hear some suggestions on how to keep such events too occurring? What would you as president would do so that you responsibly did everything in your power to prevent?
And way to avoid my entire argument based on the fact you suddenly say "oh you're misinterpreting me therefore dont deserve a response". No, you simply can't communicate, nor comprehend my points.
Bolded point is where you need to go back too
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