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4th job Corsair Bossing Build
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Dusk Wrote:Have you actually begun to play your Corsair? There's no such thing as being overly ship-reliant. You have no skills that make up for not having a ship. Even maxed Rapid Fire and Elemental Boost pale in comparison to Cannon and Torpedo. Half of playing a Corsair is knowing when to have your ship out and when to protect it.

I'll admit, I haven't extensively played my Corsair but I'm not completely clueless on it. Obviously I know about demounting, etc. But you have to account for human error and the fact that things can just spawn right on top of you. You can't count on human reaction to save your ship since I doubt anyone remains alert for a full 2x exp card.

You can tap shoot like Hurricane. It's actually better than Hurricane in terms of mobility because it actually shoots when you jump shot it. That doesn't make it an efficient means of killing things. Tap-shooting is something you do as a BM when you can blaze through a mob. Rapid Fire is weak. Corsairs can jump shot like a NL, which is far better than tapping anyway.

I wasn't referring to a BM's ability to plow through a mob, I was mearly using that example to show how Bowmasters get around the inability to jumpshoot with Hurricane. Tap shooting is basically the same concept then isn't it? Jump shooting is mostly used to keep moving while attacking, which is the same reason for tap shooting. I'd much rather tap-shoot with Rapid Fire than jump shoot with Burst Fire since Rapid Fire is still stronger. Plus, Rapid Fire's individual shots are weaker, meaning less bullet "waste" (ie. less overkill) since extra bullets will hit a nearby monster instead.

Cannon is exactly why low level Rapid Fire sucks. You already have one skill for damage, why get another skill for a half-assed damage boost that'll come into play about once every 15 minutes when training for 90 seconds? You shouldn't ever need Rapid Fire when your ship is active. At Pap and Pianus my ship already lasts a good 4 minutes or so, that number's only going to go up as I gain more levels.

Yes, low level Rapid Fire does suck, I'm not denying that. What do you plan to use in those 90 seconds? It may be "only" 90 seconds but a drop in killing speed can drop your overall exp gain by quite a bit.

Rapid Fire is less than 50% stronger than Burst Fire when maxed, not twice. Level 5 Rapid Fire is less than 1% stronger than Burst Fire. Totally not worth it.

My mistake about max Rapid.

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I'm not saying Rapid Fire is amazing or anything, I just think it's the next best option after Cannon given our current content. (Though Bullseye is in less crowded servers).

Ice Splitter's range is still too short to take advantage of Battleship Torpedo so using it will only make your ship break faster. Plus, there aren't a lot of situations where Torpedo is better than Cannon. Raw numbers says its on 3 or more monsters, but Cannon is still a lot faster than Battleship Torpedo which means its less likely for you to get hit. Forming larger mobs is difficult for a Corsair since we don't have any grouping skill like Rush or Dragon Pulse.

Air Strike...I still don't see why people are suddenly adoring it. When I made my guide, I suggested an Air Strike after Cannon and I got a few requests to change it. It's usefulness is severely limited by its cooldown. Even if you can 2hko a mob of Skeles with Air Strike, Cannon will usually get the same job done in nearly the same amount of time.

If we get those KMS updates then I will definitely be getting Torpedo after Cannon. Level 10 ship is about +40k HP to the ship if I recall correctly, and Ice Splitter's new range is the same as Rapid/Burst fire, which isn't much shorter than Torpedo.

ShinyGrovyle Wrote:For example, this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FhvPlKtr2Q&fmt=18
It lets you take 2 platforms without having to climb all the time.

You leeched to 15x right?
That means it's pretty much useless now at level 1 for you, but for those of us who didn't leech, it's a godsend at the newties or Nightshadows before level 140.
I don't know how usefull it is after 140 but i'm sure it still has it's uses.
Right now i mostly use it to help my Bishop friend OHKO Skelegons on the platform right above the bottom.
I hardly train with him, but he says it helps alot if i Air Strike the few that spawn there.

*rolls eyes*

You should get off his ass about leeching.

I posted that video a LONG time ago in my guide and the general consensus was that it's not a very effective training method.

I don't know about you but I'd much rather spend level 130-140 getting a better skill such as Torpedo, RF, or Bullseye and move out of Newties by level 14x. That training method used in that video looks incredibly slow. The spawn on the bottom slows down because she kills the Golems faster than she kills the Skeles. Once you max Cannon, your other skills really seem redundant because of just how powerful it is. Cannon can 2hko skeles around mid level 13x. That's a lot faster than that Peak training method. She uses about 4 Air Strikes to actually kill a mob of Skeles. That's about 20 seconds when Cannon can easily kill the same amount in less time. Plus, Air Strike hits 6 monsters max while there probably 10 Skeles or so on that platform.
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4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by DrRusty - 2009-04-12, 04:50 AM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Takebacker - 2009-04-12, 12:18 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by DrRusty - 2009-04-12, 12:55 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Takebacker - 2009-04-12, 01:01 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by DrRusty - 2009-04-12, 01:08 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Takebacker - 2009-04-12, 01:11 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Nesso - 2009-04-12, 01:51 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by DrRusty - 2009-04-12, 01:56 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Bribery - 2009-04-12, 02:09 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by ItzTaylor - 2009-04-12, 02:15 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Kaasoljoyyx - 2009-04-12, 03:16 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by ItzTaylor - 2009-04-12, 03:25 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Dusk - 2009-04-12, 03:35 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Jazter - 2009-04-12, 05:12 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Bribery - 2009-04-12, 06:15 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Bri - 2009-04-12, 08:41 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Jazter - 2009-04-12, 08:58 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Bri - 2009-04-12, 09:12 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by ItzTaylor - 2009-04-12, 10:33 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Sylphior - 2009-04-12, 10:55 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by ShinyGrovyle - 2009-04-13, 11:26 AM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Dusk - 2009-04-13, 12:11 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by ItzTaylor - 2009-04-13, 12:57 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by DrRusty - 2009-04-13, 01:11 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by ShinyGrovyle - 2009-04-13, 01:32 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by ItzTaylor - 2009-04-13, 02:25 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Jazter - 2009-04-13, 02:35 PM
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4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by ItzTaylor - 2009-04-13, 03:22 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Jazter - 2009-04-13, 04:08 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by ShinyGrovyle - 2009-04-13, 04:39 PM
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4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Dusk - 2009-04-13, 06:11 PM
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4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by ShinyGrovyle - 2009-04-13, 08:59 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by DrRusty - 2009-04-13, 09:03 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Jazter - 2009-04-13, 09:27 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by DrRusty - 2009-04-13, 09:37 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by ShinyGrovyle - 2009-04-14, 02:28 AM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Temporality - 2009-04-14, 04:04 AM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by ShinyGrovyle - 2009-04-14, 05:16 AM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Temporality - 2009-04-14, 05:23 AM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Dusk - 2009-04-14, 08:39 AM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Bribery - 2009-04-14, 12:42 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Kaasoljoyyx - 2009-04-14, 02:31 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by ItzTaylor - 2009-04-14, 05:39 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Dusk - 2009-04-14, 06:27 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Takebacker - 2009-04-14, 06:30 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by ShinyGrovyle - 2009-04-14, 06:42 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Dusk - 2009-04-14, 06:42 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Takebacker - 2009-04-14, 06:52 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Kaasoljoyyx - 2009-04-14, 07:17 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Takebacker - 2009-04-14, 07:27 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Bribery - 2009-04-14, 08:00 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by ItzTaylor - 2009-04-14, 08:58 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by ShinyGrovyle - 2009-04-14, 11:01 PM
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4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by ShinyGrovyle - 2009-04-14, 11:25 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Jazter - 2009-04-14, 11:44 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by ShinyGrovyle - 2009-04-14, 11:51 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Jazter - 2009-04-14, 11:56 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Kaasoljoyyx - 2009-04-15, 01:01 AM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by ItzTaylor - 2009-04-15, 01:14 AM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by ShinyGrovyle - 2009-04-15, 01:14 AM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by ItzTaylor - 2009-04-15, 01:18 AM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by ShinyGrovyle - 2009-04-15, 01:29 AM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by ItzTaylor - 2009-04-15, 01:34 AM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Jazter - 2009-04-15, 02:16 AM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Kaasoljoyyx - 2009-04-15, 11:52 AM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Bribery - 2009-04-15, 12:02 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by ShinyGrovyle - 2009-04-15, 12:11 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Dusk - 2009-04-15, 12:15 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Bribery - 2009-04-15, 12:29 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Dusk - 2009-04-15, 12:42 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by ShinyGrovyle - 2009-04-15, 12:46 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Dusk - 2009-04-15, 02:10 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Temporality - 2009-04-15, 02:23 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Dusk - 2009-04-15, 02:36 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Cavalier - 2009-04-15, 03:04 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by ItzTaylor - 2009-04-15, 05:37 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Jazter - 2009-04-15, 07:49 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Dusk - 2009-04-15, 09:13 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by ItzTaylor - 2009-04-15, 11:25 PM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Jazter - 2009-04-16, 12:08 AM
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4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Kaasoljoyyx - 2009-04-16, 01:14 AM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Jazter - 2009-04-16, 01:23 AM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by ItzTaylor - 2009-04-16, 01:44 AM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Jazter - 2009-04-16, 02:06 AM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by ShinyGrovyle - 2009-04-16, 02:12 AM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Dusk - 2009-04-16, 02:23 AM
4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Jazter - 2009-04-16, 02:24 AM
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4th job Corsair Bossing Build - by Kaasoljoyyx - 2009-04-16, 03:13 AM
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