Personally, I think there has been a decrease in a heavy reliance for Bishops/Priests on boss runs now that a lot of people use auto-pot.
Being a Bishop myself, the only time I'm really heavily relied on is when I'm the main seduce Bishop @ HT. The seduced person MUST rely on the bishop since they can't do anything and, in essence, how well they perform does affect the course of the run.
As far as the moving parties to res people...a Bishop should be attentive enough to move parties and keep an eye on their health...that's just careless on their end and it's in no way the moving-from-parties fault.
I've HT'd multiple times and have had to move parties way more than once per run to res people and what not. If you have auto-pot and die then you shouldn't be playing this game...if you don't then I can see where mistakes could be made (then again I've never gotten auto-pot to-date and I'm perfectly fine when I boss).
I have to agree with Afrobean on this lol...
I was never a "mobber" priest when I trained at Himes...I always split the map with a friend and the exp was definately better than if I wasted my time mobbing just for that one person to kill (I was lvl 125 when they came out and trained on them until 130 so for you people who are 9x/10x and complain about the exp rate gg lol).
In terms of bossing...this game gets repetative VERY quickly...it's fun to mix things up a bit. I remember a few months ago I organized an all-Bishop Zakum run in Mardia...12 Bishops took us 60 minutes exactly to take it down...nothing but the 20matk buff was used (1 bishop might've used 1 apple but not for the entire run).
Even if I'm a buyer bishop for zruns I still manage to attack zakum when I can...there is no reason to really heal the party if Zakum isn't attacking. Even with Horntail, during the fake heads if it's def'd up there is still good damage being done to it because most of the Bishops start ARing (provided the head is just floating there which it tends to do majority of the time).
It's all about being aware of everything all the time...some people can handle it and others can't
Being a Bishop myself, the only time I'm really heavily relied on is when I'm the main seduce Bishop @ HT. The seduced person MUST rely on the bishop since they can't do anything and, in essence, how well they perform does affect the course of the run.
As far as the moving parties to res people...a Bishop should be attentive enough to move parties and keep an eye on their health...that's just careless on their end and it's in no way the moving-from-parties fault.
I've HT'd multiple times and have had to move parties way more than once per run to res people and what not. If you have auto-pot and die then you shouldn't be playing this game...if you don't then I can see where mistakes could be made (then again I've never gotten auto-pot to-date and I'm perfectly fine when I boss).
Afrobean Wrote:If the Priest can fight well, you should not think he should need to be limited to healing you. In my Priest days, there was scarcely anyone who was killing Dreamy Ghosts as well as me. I don't think I ever partied with someone near my level range that killed at the rate I did. As a point of reference, Priest's SR on Holy-weak is right in the middle of potential DPS of all class's attacks. In addition, they have a summon which can add a tiny bit more DPS and just about the best mobility of any class. Nightlords technically are better mobility, but Priest's attacking methods in this map are more versatile despite slightly less mobility (which, frankly, can be overcome by simply having haste or good speed equipment). In addition, even if the Priest doesn't grossly outmatch you in DPS (probably only possible if they have way worse gear than you), him sticking to attacking would STILL lead to higher exp rates regardless due to the way party exp works.
On the topic at hand: Holy Magicians who spam Heal do not have it hard at all. Those who go all out, use Heal when needed, use buffs when needed, and throw attacks when it's safe, do have it hard. It's worth it though, I think. Easy things are boring. I did some fighting against a cake boss, and I think I got a decent feel for how I would handle myself if I was a Nightlord at Zakum or something... not fun at all.
I have to agree with Afrobean on this lol...
I was never a "mobber" priest when I trained at Himes...I always split the map with a friend and the exp was definately better than if I wasted my time mobbing just for that one person to kill (I was lvl 125 when they came out and trained on them until 130 so for you people who are 9x/10x and complain about the exp rate gg lol).
In terms of bossing...this game gets repetative VERY quickly...it's fun to mix things up a bit. I remember a few months ago I organized an all-Bishop Zakum run in Mardia...12 Bishops took us 60 minutes exactly to take it down...nothing but the 20matk buff was used (1 bishop might've used 1 apple but not for the entire run).
Even if I'm a buyer bishop for zruns I still manage to attack zakum when I can...there is no reason to really heal the party if Zakum isn't attacking. Even with Horntail, during the fake heads if it's def'd up there is still good damage being done to it because most of the Bishops start ARing (provided the head is just floating there which it tends to do majority of the time).
It's all about being aware of everything all the time...some people can handle it and others can't