2009-01-19, 09:52 PM
Avenge Wrote:20mil exp/hour solo'ing wyverns? Haha, I get 10-12mil exp/hour on 2x solo'ing newties.
So we should HAVE to party magicians? No choice in that? What if there are no magicians available to train with? I should be forced to get sh'it for EXP? I shouldn't be able to go train when I want to because there's no magicians online/available? You're pretty full of yourself to think we WANT to HAVE to party magicians for a decent EXP rate.
You don't want a higher level "Hime-style" map? C'mon, you already get 20mil exp/hr at himes with FD in party, that's only 4-5mil short of my average exp/hour gain at newts with a 1-hitting magician!
I'm not saying that ultimates are a horrible nightmare idea, they just need to be taken back a bit. They need to overall improve the EXP from each high level monster to reflect the lack of ultimates. They also need to stop assuming that everyone wants to party magicians so they can level at a decent rate.
Why don't you think of the other side?
At bosses if we aren't taken with main attackers (NLs/BM/Warriors), we're forced to stay there for hell of a lot longer or even fail the run... its your own question directed back at you... "so we should HAVE to party NLs/BMs/Warriors at bosses" for successfull or fastest run? Even if there are lots of other classes to go bossing with, they don't accept arch mages they would rather take any other classes. Even smaller bosses like pap, i remember back at 3rd job magicians had to look for parties A LOT LONGER than most of these other classes just to go pap. Now that they suddenly surpass everyone else in just ONE thing and everyone is against it lol.
Obviously since we can't boss effectively, there has to be a better training method which is the ultimates. What you're saying is, its ok for arch mages to "be treated like sh'it at bosses" but its ok for other classes to dominate bosses and they should also have simliar training methods like arch mages?