What changes would you like to see in 4th job skills?

You can't compete with us on mobs. We can't compete with you on single target. That's how things are SUPPOSED to be. I don't like it that much, you don't like it that much, but as I said, that's just how it is. Of course I would bring up no booster for mages, it's the only useful damage buff they HAVE. Meditate is a joke. You expect to make comparisons between buffed and un-buffed but you want to exclude the most considerable damage buff we have? Nice one.

Yes I expect to make comparisons because me with buffs < archmage/bishops WITHOUT THEM, don't you see? I can't even compare to magician's EXP/hour WITH buffs, but they could get twice as much without them, let alone WITH them. I was also being sarcastic when I said I wanted an ultimate, I just don't want to *HAVE TO* find an archmage (has HS MULE I HOPE) or a bishop to party so I can continue leveling at a decent rate.

Inferno With SE: 282%
Inferno With SE and Adv: 423%
Blizzard still sucks the same. Pierce needs to be charged too long to be practical in many cases.

Boomerang Step only hits four monsters at max. %DPS is almost the same as Avenger for a single target. It's lower though.

Charge Blow was a bad example.

Dragon Fury is only more stable because they don't have Critical and they have Beholder.

Pirate mob skills are a joke for damage until Corsairs get Torpedo.

Inferno is often skipped by bowmasters and not often used. Blizzard isn't often used for attack advantage. Arrow rain has advantage of not having to be standing outside of the mob, which would make it better than Avenger+SP.

I am not only talking about theoretical numbers I am talking about actual skill usage and ease of use. Guess how much SP+Avenger hits for when I'm too close and punch? 1. Avenger is the only mob skill I know of that has this downside (and is regularly used).

But this basically tells you how much damage you could expect to do to 15 stationary snails in front of you, with 2 bil HP each...

Next time I train on immobile snails i'll take this into account.