Will you guys stop going on about ultimates. The only changes that need to be made to ultimates are changes for balance between Arch Mages and Bishops. What needs to happen is the developers need to stop giving bishops more base attack on their skills to compensate for amp. Because that completely defeats the point of amp. The new 5% is a joke, for every 10k they do 500 more damage, to get the maximum advantage out of it they need to hit 95k, which will give them a 5k boost, the most they can use. I don't think anyone will hit over a 40k CL on neutral without some extreme pot, which means no Arch Mage will get a boost of more than 2k on CL. I can't actually speak for F/P because I've never played one. All amp means is to do damage a bit above them and have to spend twice as much MP, and once both classes start 1 hitting things it becomes completely pointless. In the future I'd like to say amp. get a much more dramatic increase in %, or a dramatic decrease in MP usage. You also need to stop using elemental weapons in your arguments. Not everyone is going to HAVE an elemental weapon. Changes in SKILLS need to be made. And will people stop mentioning "getting rid of leechers" as an excuse to nerf ultimates. Why, because of the actions of lazy players, should a class only good for ONE thing (Arch Mages and training) be penalized? Bishops will always be wanted because of their support skills, but can anyone give me one reason they would want to train with an Arch Mage if they didn't have blizzard / meteor?
You're all for buffing up their mobbing skills, but at a map like newties you only get mobs of 3 or 4 at a time, and with the arcs on CL I was only able to hit 4 at the most, having my damage cut each time it went through them, and that's the largest ranged attack my I/L has excluding blizzard. Everyone is saying they are meant to be mobbers, but the current "end-game" maps we have aren't friendly to good mob attacks (excluding ultimates), as opposed to big hitting single attacks, which you say Arch Mages aren't meant to have. If you take away ultimates, then Arch Mages will have the worst of everything. So what if they train faster than you? Take away ultimates and I guarantee you'll level a damn lot slower than you do now, and it's not like they can do anything with those levels because they aren't good for much else. So what if they can kill steal you? Pre-ultimates everyone KSed us, and I didn't see you complaining about THAT happening. You need to stop complaining about people who abuse the skills, because if Arch Mage's or Bishops aren't top of the "food chain", then someone else will be, and THEY will do it. Making it so peopel can't KS others ISN'T balance. The fact people abuse their skills isn't the fault of the developers, it's the player.
You're all for buffing up their mobbing skills, but at a map like newties you only get mobs of 3 or 4 at a time, and with the arcs on CL I was only able to hit 4 at the most, having my damage cut each time it went through them, and that's the largest ranged attack my I/L has excluding blizzard. Everyone is saying they are meant to be mobbers, but the current "end-game" maps we have aren't friendly to good mob attacks (excluding ultimates), as opposed to big hitting single attacks, which you say Arch Mages aren't meant to have. If you take away ultimates, then Arch Mages will have the worst of everything. So what if they train faster than you? Take away ultimates and I guarantee you'll level a damn lot slower than you do now, and it's not like they can do anything with those levels because they aren't good for much else. So what if they can kill steal you? Pre-ultimates everyone KSed us, and I didn't see you complaining about THAT happening. You need to stop complaining about people who abuse the skills, because if Arch Mage's or Bishops aren't top of the "food chain", then someone else will be, and THEY will do it. Making it so peopel can't KS others ISN'T balance. The fact people abuse their skills isn't the fault of the developers, it's the player.