What changes would you like to see in 4th job skills?

No changes. Just major changes in maps. Make it possible to train with 6 people in a party, where all uses its best potential (for all classes) and make it impossible to have just 6 bishops in one map.

Yes. Make 1 map with 6 different parts to it (seperated by a wall or something of the sort) and then have each one good for certain classes. thus allowing a party to train efficiently.

but for removing ultimates, i say thats a bad idea. Maybe change them so they only hit like say 6 monsters or something would be better.

i like the Bahamut-Heal idea. would be useful, especially if they didnt have to be in the same party.

i have to agree on you with a lot of them. but i say eliminate HS completely and replace it with a good party buff of some sort, or just add more attacking skills.

@Stereo, some of those ideas arent even plausible. they would never survive in the MS world. lol